DUmmie claims to fight for job

[thundley4]

but will file for disability soon.

MarianJack    Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:17 AM
 
UPDATED. Some quack BASTARD of a "doctor" REALLY screwed my family and I today...

Last edited Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:58 AM USA/ET - Edit history (3)

...and I'm not taking it sitting down for one f***ing second.

I'm going to do all I can to leave out the 4 letter aria of obscenity that I've been singing since just after noon to avoid a hidden thread by a 6-0 jury vote. Allow me to say that in spite of the trembling rage that I feel now, I have been nothing but courteous to this alleged professional of medicine.

I've been out of work for 8 months. Unemployment compensation is over. I was offered a job for the most I've ever been paid last Friday. My references came back glowing. My background checks came back glowing. All I had to do was get through a pre-employment physical, one of which I've never failed to do in my life. My family and I need a paychek or we may wind up homeless again. This bastard quack knows this.

The position that I was supposed to start tomorrow was working with a Mental Health Agency up here in Maine. I would be going into the homes of troubled families who've consented to in-home treatment. My job would be to TALK with these families to help them problem solve in the most effective manner possible for them. I would counsel, coach, model, empathasize (spelling?), and possibly firmly prompt them to make the changes to which they'd agreed in early sessions .

Of about 30 items listed on the job description, the ability to lift 35 pounds, the ability to push 100 pounds (like a person in a wheelchair) and the need to possibly restrain are the last things listed. This is because they are HIGHLY unlikely to happen. By highly unlikely I mean about a 1 in 10,000 chance. I know this from experience. In a similar position about 6 years ago I had 2 instances out of hundreds where I was dealing with highly agitated clients or families. In one of those circumsrances, I talked them down and back to the kitchen table. In the other, the young woman told me to go F*** myself and left the room. She apologized the next time I came to the home.

This self righteous son of a bitch bastard of a moronic quack ignored the fact that I passed EVERY physical request he made of me, ignored the fact that I explained that I've had a bad cold the last few days and that my strength and stamina are somewhat decreased because of this and he latched onto the fact that I said that if I've done something like move furniture ALL DAY my back would be sore and recommended that I be restricted from any physical activity.

This has quite possibly cost me the job.

I have spoken with this "sock-tucking mortar chucker" and explained to him the consequences of his half assed and arbitrary decision to my famiy and I. I informed him of the need for him to reconsider his findings, especially since the issue of my back would have NEVER come up if I hadn't said that my back would hurt in the same circumstances that Hercules' back would hurt. I also mentioned that the doctor who has been treating me for the last 6 years has never recommended any restriction on my activities.

At this point, I've signed a release for my records to be sent to the quack. I had to sign it twice because the first time they sent my real doctor's office a request for them to SEND and not RECEIVE my records. I've also asked my doctor to write the quack a note explaining that she may actually know my health after 6+ years than he does after 20 minutes. Hopefully he'll pull his headout of his crusty boney ass and reverse his "decision". He is also reviewing with his "Medical Director".

I will say this. If this incompetent bastard of a quack moron, who apparently doesn't believe in actually listening to the patient, doesn't reverse his decision, I will contact an attorney and go after his ass, his medical director's ass and the practice's collective ass with everything I possibly can.

The position that he screwed me out of yesterday paid $16 per hour. I was supposed to start this morning at 8:30 AM, so he has now cost me $128 (8 X $16).

I believe that he is shocked to have a victim who actually fights back, but I'm not about to let this f***er "romney" me out of a job that I want, I need and I will do very well in because he's to damn lazy to pay any attention to his temporary patient.

I'll let you know what happens. Thank you for letting me rant!

PEACE!

UPDATE as of 11:53 AM. See response # 17. Thanks.

PEACE!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002282915

[GOBUCKS]

Another DUmpmonkey pissed marijuana juice.

[Ballygrl]

If the OP was hurt on the job though they would sue, and the Doctor who said it's OK would be sued also.

[Evil_Conservative]

Why did the DUmmie go to a new doctor and not his doctor of six years?  If his doctor of six years was so great, why wasn't he there?

[GOBUCKS]

Why did the DUmmie go to a new doctor and not his doctor of six years?  If his doctor of six years was so great, why wasn't he there?

Companies usually designate the doctor for their employment physicals.

Labor unions and trial lawyers always have crooked doctors on their payroll.

[JakeStyle]

Another DUmpmonkey pissed marijuana juice.

Yep, he failed the whizz quiz.  The rest is bullshit

[dixierose]

A voice of reason?

maximusveritas
56. What's his motivation for doing that?

Does the company try to use this physical as a way to weed out candidates who might sue them later on? In any case, I don't think threatening to sue him will help. They've probably done the same thing to others and know what they're doing. He will just point to what you said and it will be his medical opinion against your doctor's. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see you having a case there. Unless there are really no other jobs out there, it may be better to focus on finding another job rather fighting a losing battle if you don't get this job. Just trying to provide some constructive Devil's advocate advice.

[franksolich]

A voice of reason?

My thought is that the primitive needs to listen to reason.

I mean, it would be nice if I, for example, were given the "opportunity" to be a telephone operator or music critic or psychiatrist or bartender or telemarketer or piano tuner, jobs that require listening, but I have this, uh, feeling that I probably wouldn't be too good at it, no matter how much I wanted to do it.

Just because one thinks one can do something, doesn't mean one can.

And so instead of tilting at windmills, one should eliminate what one can't do, and concentrate only on what one can do.

[Alpha Mare]

Maybe the doc could  tell he wasn't mentally stable enough to counsel others.

[franksolich]

Maybe the doc could  tell he wasn't mentally stable enough to counsel others.

That is rather, uh, troubling that anyone would consider hiring a primitive for a mental health job.

Sort of like hiring franksolich (see above) to be a music critic.

It just won't work.

[NHSparky]

Maybe the doc could  tell he wasn't mentally stable enough to counsel others.

Hell, I could have told you that in the first paragraph. A guy who claims to do in-home counseling but can't even keep his cool while writing down a 40-page rant?

And hate to tell ya, DUmmie, $16 an hour ain't all that. Stick to nursing...that bottle of Allen's Coffee Brandy.

[Carl]

Maybe the doc could  tell he wasn't mentally stable enough to counsel others.

^ ^ this ^ ^

[formerlurker]

JayhawkSD
61. Please don't take this the wrong way, but

Why in the world would you tell a doctor in such an examination that, "If I did something like move furniture all day, my back would be sore," under any circumstances?

What question did he ask you that prompted that answer? Did he ask somethng generic, like "How much physical strain can you tolerate without causing back pain?" If so, I would answer equally generically with something like, "I don't know, I've never overworked to the point of having back pain."

If he was really specific, "If you did something like move furniture all day, would your back be sore?" I would answer, "I don't know, I've never spent the day moving furniture."

I mean this is not your own doctor, with whom you are developing a relationship. This is a corporate hack who you will see once in your life and who could care less about you. Honesty at any stage in a job interview is just not smart.

Question begs for an answer.  I am sure the misfit needs time to come up with one.

It;s all 

[JohnnyReb]

What the doctor found and reported, "Workers comp. claimant hunting a tit to suck."

[diesel driver]

"DUmmie", "fight", and "job" don't belong in the same sentence, much less the same thread.

Some things are just plain wrong; this is one of them.

[catsmtrods]

If you cant lift 35 lbs or push 100 WTF are you some kind of snail? Just shoot yourself you aren't worth shit!

[miskie]

..What's the primitive worried about ? Should be super easy to find another job opportunity in the Obameconomy, especially after Obama & the Democrat controlled House and Senate had such a successful 'Recovery Summer' a few years back, right ?

[Celtic Rose]

Screwing up your back in healthcare means that you are pretty much done with patient care. 

Also, I can't imagine an untrained person being qualified to do all the work he is talking about in regarding to mental patients. 

"I would be going into the homes of troubled families who've consented to in-home treatment. My job would be to TALK with these families to help them problem solve in the most effective manner possible for them. I would counsel, coach, model, empathasize (spelling?), and possibly firmly prompt them to make the changes to which they'd agreed in early sessions . "

This doesn't sound like the type of job where you just waltz in off the street, it sounds like the job for a nurse, doctor, psychologist, etc. 

[Gina]

And hate to tell ya, DUmmie, $16 an hour ain't all that. Stick to nursing...that bottle of Allen's Coffee Brandy.

That is what I was thinking and well I bet the first thing that idiot would do after his probation was up he would "hurt" his back and go on short term disability then long term.  I see it every day here.  Moral of the story:  Keep filing false disibility claims and the employers will just not trust you and you have this to deal with.

What I just thought of.........just reverse it....idiot hurts his back and goes to the dr and the dr says they can find no problems    it would be the same post about suing because they didn't get what they wanted.......

[BEG]

Was there ever a job to begin with?!?  He may have applied or a job, maybe...but I highly doubt a doctor would screw him just to play "God".  DUmmies lie...

[dixierose]

Was there ever a job to begin with?!?  He may have applied or a job, maybe...but I highly doubt a doctor would screw him just to play "God".  DUmmies lie...

I don't understand what the doctor's motive would be to "lie". He has no "dog in that fight".

[BEG]

I don't understand what the doctor's motive would be to "lie". He has no "dog in that fight".

He doesn't, DUmmies lie.

[franksolich]

Screwing up your back in healthcare means that you are pretty much done with patient care. 

Also, I can't imagine an untrained person being qualified to do all the work he is talking about in regarding to mental patients. 

"I would be going into the homes of troubled families who've consented to in-home treatment. My job would be to TALK with these families to help them problem solve in the most effective manner possible for them. I would counsel, coach, model, empathasize (spelling?), and possibly firmly prompt them to make the changes to which they'd agreed in early sessions . "

This doesn't sound like the type of job where you just waltz in off the street, it sounds like the job for a nurse, doctor, psychologist, etc. 

Uh huh.

As others here have speculated, the primitive probably either (a) failed the drug test or (b) was considered woefully unqualified for the job, but of course the primitive doesn't want to blame herself, where the blame really lies.

[BadCat]

What's with the "eight months" of unemployment and his "sit on your ass" benefits expiring?
Didn't the magnificent one extend the "sit on your ass" bennies to 99 WEEKS?

[Gratiot]

Screwing up your back in healthcare means that you are pretty much done with patient care. 

Also, I can't imagine an untrained person being qualified to do all the work he is talking about in regarding to mental patients. 

"I would be going into the homes of troubled families who've consented to in-home treatment. My job would be to TALK with these families to help them problem solve in the most effective manner possible for them. I would counsel, coach, model, empathasize (spelling?), and possibly firmly prompt them to make the changes to which they'd agreed in early sessions . "

This doesn't sound like the type of job where you just waltz in off the street, it sounds like the job for a nurse, doctor, psychologist, etc.

You're right, on all accounts.  The issue though is who is paying for the in-home treatment.  Insurance and medicaid require masters degrees, various licenses, and board certification for most practitioners.  Charity, religious, or local management entity funding... and the requirements rapidly fade away.