oberliner (17,095 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Book details JFK affair with White House teen intern
Excerpt:
In an excerpt published by The Post, Alford wrote that she met Kennedy just four days into her internship, and that he invited her the following day on a personal tour of the White House residence that included first lady Jackie Kennedy's bedroom.
Fifty years on, Alford -- now a 69-year-old grandmother and retired New York City church administrator -- writes that she lost her virginity to Kennedy that day.
"Slowly, he unbuttoned the top of my shirtdress and touched my breasts," Alford -- at the time Mimi Beardsley -- wrote in the excerpt.
"Then he reached up between my legs and started to pull off my underwear. I finished unbuttoning my shirtdress and let it fall off my shoulders."
"After he finished, he hitched up his pants and smiled at me" before pointing her in the direction of the bathroom, the Post reported.
"I was in shock," Alford wrote.
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kskiska
21. She was a debutante.
Attended Miss Porter's School, same as Jackie.
Relevancy?
Nuclear Unicorn
2. Obviously I haven't read the entire account but might we remain skeptical in fairness?
It's not like President Kennedy can defend himself or WH records could bolster or disprove her claim.
I s'pose. Too bad Cain didn't get that kind of pass. But then again he's a black conservative.
Nuclear Unicorn (4,391 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. As oberliner noted the description does not sound consensual.
To believe her account is to believe JFK was essentially a rapist. I stand by my original appeal to skepticism in light of the reasonable impossibility of proving the matter one way or another but the description given was anything but consensual. I know if I described something like that to my dad he would be crawling over Secret Service agents to punch-out my attacker.
DutchLiberal
34. How is it not consensual??!
He didn't use force. He didn't use violence. He didn't threaten her. He didn't abuse her.
She didn't resist. She didn't even object. She didn't say no. She gave no indication that she didn't want it. She even unbuttoned her shirt herself.
So to say that believing her account, which I do, is believing JFK "was essentially a rapist" is pure and utter bullshit. He was just a guy who was lucky enough to be able to have sex with young attractive women.
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Oh my. </franksolich>
FarPoint
7. The man had a severe chronic back injury
Addison disease and took narcotics for pain...he was never that horney...lot's of opportunities for females to cash in post mortum in my opinion.
virgogal
4. She's claiming that the long shadow of the affair was responsible
for the breakdown of her own marriage.
Bullshit !
jwirr (18,527 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. I would agree. I think we need to remember that this was an era of "free sex" and it was really
different - even that today. Kind of anything goes atmosphere. So I to think that this could be true but not necessarily the cause of her marriage breaking up unless she was still infatuated with JFK and it got in the way. Sexuality and the results were taken very casually back then.
Maybe instead of DOTY we need the DUmbass Olympics. We can have events like Synchronized Meme Swimming, the Long-Jump to Conclusion and the Epithet Javelin Throw.
The above post would take the gold for Mental Gynmastics.
Blue_In_AK (34,127 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. Written like a Harlequin romance novel. n/t
Missy Vixen (16,125 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
36. Actually, no, it's not
Harlequin's publication standards are much higher.
-MV
romance author
Peregrine Took
10. What is her motive for coming forward with this now?
Iggo
19. Sell books. (n/t)
JitterbugPerfume (17,545 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. Why did she wait so long to "reveal" this?
this whole thing can't pass the smell test
CurtEastPoint (2,817 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. Amen to that. FIFTY years later? Please.
When were Cain or Gingrinch ever granted these benefits?
meanit
23. Sounds like just another installment of right wing tabloid BS about the Kennedys.
(she) "recalls that he confided to her, while embroiled in the drama of the Cuban missile crisis that "I'd rather my children red, than dead."
That line kinda gives it away, doesn't it?
Yeah, total RW talking point.
Next thing you know they'll be accusing a Kennedy of being so intoxicated he drove his mistress off a bridge and left her to drown while his pregnant wife was at home.
That's just the sort of BS we would make-up.
bluestate10 (4,876 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Well known that JFK was a panty chaser who would screw any attractive woman that let him.
There is nothing new in the disclosure that he would have sex with a 19 year old that was willing and struck his fancy. His nephew had sex with a 14 year old. Rampant womanizing ran robust among the men in his family, starting with JFK's father.
And that too was rape.
SaintPete
31. So?
No reflection on you oberliner, but what exactly are we supposed to think/do about this?
Not a thing, IMO.
RainDog
45. guess what? people in positions of power (often men) use that position for sex
this is nothing new and will no doubt continue. at that time, attitudes were even more misogynistic than now - and, even today, people use their positions of power to have sex with people they wouldn't approach otherwise.
some men don't care about marriage vows - then and now. some women, too, for that matter.
I guess I'm cynical, but I'm far more surprised when people behave ethically than when they do not. I like to see ethical actions, but I don't think that's what happens most of the time.
leeroysphitz (9,387 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
48. This woman is clearly lying here and trying to profit from besmirching a great man.
The question is why. These people always have an angle.
This is why William Kennedy Smith told his victim he could get away with it and why Michael Skacel damn near got away with murder.
****ing enablers
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