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Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« on: February 03, 2012, 12:44:21 PM »
Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!

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CONCLUSION AND REPORT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE

For the foregoing reasons, the Court concludes and hereby
reports to the Secretary of State that Plaintiffs' challenges to
the qualifications of Defendant Barack Obama should be sustained
and upheld; that Defendant Barack Obama is not entitled to appear
on the primary or general election ballots in the State of
Georgia as a candidate for the Office of the President of the
United States; and that Defendant Barack Obama's name should be
withheld from the presidential ballot or, if the ballots have
been printed, should be stricken from the presidential ballot.
This day of , 2012_
Michael M. Malihi
Administrative Law Judge
Page -8-
J ark Hatfi
Att ney for ntiffs
Georgia Bar No 37509
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, J. Mark Hatfield, Attorney for Plaintiffs, do hereby
certify that, pursuant to the Order entered in the abovecaptioned
matters regarding electronic service, I have this day
served the foregoing Plaintiffs' Proposed Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law upon:
Michael Jablonski
michael.jablonski@comcast.net
by email addressed thereto in order to insure proper delivery.
This 1st day of February, 2012.
HATFIELD & HATFIELD, P.C.
201 Albany Avenue
P.O. Box 1361
Waycross, Georgia 31502
(912) 283-3820
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2012, 12:51:12 PM »
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 12:53:47 PM »
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Let's see what Holder does about this!

More states need to follow Georgia's lead, and pronto.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 12:55:51 PM »
I don't think it's been decided yet, as I can't find any news on it.   I have been waiting for the final word for a few days now. 
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 12:58:35 PM »
I lost the original link but here is another one for the story....you can bing or google for more links to the same story....

http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2012/01/obama-name-will-not-appear-on-georgia.html

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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 01:07:47 PM »
If true, this will provide the left with ammunition to challenge obama's loss next November, making the Bush v gore 2000 election debacle look like child's play.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 01:11:57 PM »
Transcrpit from the hearing, Georgia-Swenson-Powell Vs. Obama~

http://www.scribd.com/doc/79854466/Georgia-Swensson-Powell-v-Obama-Certified-Transcript-1-26-12-Hearing-tfb

Pages 10 through 14 are particularly important.

Page 18 (on Obama's father pertaining to natural born citizen requirements for candidates);

Q- ..."Based on response you received from FOI request... ...-were you able to determine whether Barack Obama, Sr. was ever a citizen of the United States?"

A- Never.

Q- He was never?

A- Never a citizen.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 01:19:02 PM »
His father doesn't have to be a citizen for him to be a citizen.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 01:24:23 PM »
Quote from: Linda on February 03, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
I lost the original link but here is another one for the story....you can bing or google for more links to the same story....

http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2012/01/obama-name-will-not-appear-on-georgia.html



Well that is my point, all the news is from Jan 26th and 27th.  And I heard a guy on the radio that has been following it just 2 days ago, they are still waiting for the final decision.

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This is developing; it really could be factual considering the proceedings that were held today.


The whole point in this isn't if Barrack Obama Jr (The President) is a citizen.  To be a "natural born" citizen both your parents must be citizens.  The founders did this on purpose to exclude back door allegiance to England and of course other countries in the future.  So Obama Sr. was never a citizen, which therefore excludes Barrack Obama Jr from being a natural born citizen which in return excludes him from being the President.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 01:29:16 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on February 03, 2012, 01:24:23 PM
The whole point in this isn't if Barrack Obama Jr (The President) is a citizen.  To be a "natural born" citizen both your parents must be citizens.  

Where does it say that? If it was delineated clearly and anywhere there wouldn't be a debate. Everyone knows Sr. is Kenyan.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 01:46:21 PM »
Maxiest--no, as long as Obama was born on American soil, he's an American citizen.  Nobody has yet to show me any credible evidence to the contrary.

And I'm going to point out for the 400000th time what people should instinctively know already--even if Obama wasn't a citizen and was removed from office, this will not 1--negate ANY laws, EC's, or appointments he's made, 2--change the Democrat agenda one iota, which is what he's been pushing down our throats.

Bottom line, if it wasn't him shoving the shit in our faces, it'd be Biden, or Hillary, or someone else.
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Re: Obama Will Not Be On The Ballot In Georgia. Go, Georgia!
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 02:39:45 PM »
Ok first off, I am not a Birther but I think this argument does need to be heard.  Not just because of Barrack but because of the immigration issues we have in the country at the moment.

Second I mis-spoke in my last post and didn't present the argument very well.

No it has never been ruled by any court, yet,  to be a natural born citizen one must be born of two citizens, although this is the belief of many and was used as a test for our first Presidents following

And although there as never been a ruling on the matter, it has been referenced in past Supreme Court decisions:

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Scott v. Sandford (1856), the Supreme Court characterized, as unexceptionable (incapable of being criticized), the viewpoint that:

"natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens" (Scott v. Sandford, 1856)

Since Obama acquired foreign nationality (in addition to U.S. citizenship) at birth, his "natural born citizen" status is in doubt. This doubt is not  conspiracy theorists on the lunatic fringe of society. The doubt comes from what the Supreme Court has said(see above), as well as other historical and legal sources (Michigan Law Review).
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