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OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« on: February 02, 2012, 03:13:15 PM »
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Mic Check....

OWS gets a lot of love on DU. However, it isn't a relevant movement. For a movement to be relevant, it has to capture the hearts and minds of the society. A protest movement is an insurgency, in a way. It has to figure out a way to shape its message in a way that the society adopts the protesters values and political views.

Protest movements are most effective when they use civil disobedience to highlight state polices that are not just. Two key examples of this are Martin Luther King and Gandhi. Gandhi with his Satyagrah and Martin Luther King with his nonviolence, practiced one thing that OWS will never have: Discipline and leadership.

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Oooooh, the fur fairly flies!
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 03:19:18 PM »
Discipline and leadership...that's two things DUmmies don't have.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 03:20:35 PM »
I wonder, as more DUmmies realize that the Occu-tards have turned out to be nothing but a fart in a hurricane, if this be the start of the Next Great Discombobulationâ„¢?
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 03:46:10 PM »
There is a lot of denunciation of the OP, particularly by the normal flock of doctrinaire loons like Beth.  It's worth a read, I didn't have the time to bring over the back-and-forth but it caused quite the cat-fight (As any of the few lucid posts over there generally do).  They eventually trot out the old time-honored "Agent provocateur," "You are a concern troll," "Oh, prove it," and "Sez you!" arguments in their normal receptive way of handling any ideas not in full conformity with their Magic Pony worldview.

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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 03:55:49 PM »
Stupid Beth puts on a great display in the thread of why she got the name.

She really is the dumbest bitch on this planet.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 04:00:45 PM »
Great find.

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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 04:35:54 PM »
It never fails to amaze me that these misfits are so deluded to reality that they are forever jumping on the bandwagon of the latest thing that is going to bring them the spoils they believe socialism will deliver.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 05:38:09 PM »
I'm concerned.

Here's another occupooper thread with no reply from Sarah Imaboobi.

I guess since she failed in the DOTY voting, and lost yet another boyfriend, she's spending all her time on some sleazy dating site.

She figures "Hell, if Chris Hansen can lure in all those guys, so can I".
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 07:29:32 PM »
Oh yea, that thread is a train wreck.  Those people are hard core dumb.  :loser:
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 08:07:50 PM »
OWS wasn't even a relevant BOWEL movement to change society.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 08:12:31 PM »
OWS wasn't even relevant when they were popular and that ship has sailed.

If they had a brain between them, they'd be "occupying" the front lawn of board members and major shareholders of these companies they hate so much, but trespassing on private property leads to more ouchies and boo boos than partying in a public park where the mayor likes to blow you kisses and fondle your junk.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 08:20:58 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on February 02, 2012, 08:12:31 PM
OWS wasn't even relevant when they were popular and that ship has sailed.

If they had a brain between them, they'd be "occupying" the front lawn of board members and major shareholders of these companies they hate so much, but trespassing on private property leads to more ouchies and boo boos than partying in a public park where the mayor likes to blow you kisses and fondle your junk.

The mayor works for TSA?   :lmao:
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 08:22:40 PM »
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 11:26:02 PM »
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25. You really would benefit from learning about horizontal movements

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and it would make your uninformed pronouncements more credible.
I thought tipping rubicons moved in an arc.

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15. Hundreds of thousands aren't participating. Hundreds are.

Hundreds of people don't change the direction of a country of millions. 
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24. You couldn't be more wrong, as per usual.
Umm, he's right, DUmbass.

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43. Hundreds. Are you intentionally sounding stupid?That assertion is so easily proven wrong that you have to wonder why you would say it.
No, DUmbass, he's right.  Next.
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224. Wait, so you agree that the OWS 99% movement is made up of only "hundreds" of people?

I won't waste my time arguing with someone that thinks that.
Yes, he said just hundreds. Get a grip little man.

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223. Did we have elections and I missed them?And you missed the SOTU I guess. 
Probably. You seem to miss a whole lot. Logical thought comes to mind.
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216. If you added IN SAN DIEGO

Or in LA you'd have a smidgen of a point, for the core that is. 
Rest my case.

Too damn much bickering and name calling going on. :catfight:
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 11:36:31 PM »
Hilarious thread.

When even people who are part of your own fringe minority are telling you something is a flop - it should be a sign.

They honestly believe that regular working people are talking about "the 99%" , that OWS had more than a couple of thousand participants worldwide , that OWS is even remotely comparable to the civil rights movement and that they've achieved even one of their vast array of incoherent goals.

Simply stunning.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 11:43:24 PM »
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223. Did we have elections and I missed them?And you missed the SOTU I guess.
 
I wonder if nutcase nadin has noticed that every State of the Union speech, by every president, always includes a laundry list of populist bullshit that no president ever intends to really pursue. It sounds nice, fills time, and satisfies a handful of DUmbass voters that he'd like to win over.

The little wads of occupooper nuts had no effect whatever on the jug-eared muslim's script.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 08:47:07 AM »
Here we have some straight, tough talk:

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45. Hundreds of thousands? Big ****ing deal

In a country of over 300 million, that's like a spec. If you think burning the flag is the way to reach people, you're sadly mistaken. All it does is further marginalize a group that a lot more than a few hundreds of thousands of people think is a joke. The message of the movement has been picked up but don't expect any responsible politician or leader to want to associate themselves with the movement. If that was the way you hoped it turned out, congratulations.

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188. I am not blaming anyone for anything

Burning the flag is our right as Americans. And I'll thank you for not putting words in my mouth (like so many here feel free to do). Yes, I am one of the 1% but that has never stopped me from being a liberal Democrat. If you think you're helping the cause by pissing people off, do knock yourself out. It's stunts like this that get people to forget the message as well as the police brutality and focus on the garbage and you'll continue to think you're helping. Great job. You should be proud of yourself.

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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 12:20:31 PM »
My mole has about had it with people always talking down OWS!
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 12:50:08 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on February 03, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
My mole has about had it with people always talking down OWS!


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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 01:20:49 PM »
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25. You really would benefit from learning about horizontal movements
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2012, 01:27:28 PM »
Oh Lord, but not from her.  She's in that other thread, screaming about "her" reproductive rights, and "her" right to choice.  I think those years are long gone, beth.  Isn't your jailbird son pushing 30 or something?   
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2012, 01:39:39 PM »
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25. You really would benefit from learning about horizontal movements

She's got a point. After all, if you don't understand horizontal movements you could end up like this:
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 09:14:30 PM »
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Poor, stupid Beth just inadvertently gave stevenumbers a happy ending.
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Re: OWS isn't a Relevant Movement to Change Society
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 10:30:33 PM »
I was just watching O'Reilly on the repeat at 10:00 and he had two people on who support the Occupy movement and BOTH of them were backing away from the Oakland nuts. They said they have taken over the movement, which I don't believe, I think they just couldn't find any more excuses.
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