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Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« on: January 29, 2012, 03:53:49 PM »
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 An AP photographer named Beck Diefenbach has probably just ended the Occupy movement.
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Not officially, of course, and certainly not intentionally. And I of course might be wrong, Occupy may endure.

But I promise you, no one will think of Occupy the same way ever again after today's AP photos.

 
A woman pleads with Occupy Oakland protestors to not burn an American flag found inside Oakland City Hall during an Occupy Oakland protest, Saturday, January 28, 2012, in Oakland, Calif. Police were in the process of arresting about 100 Occupy protesters for failing to disperse Saturday night, hours after officers used tear gas on a rowdy group of demonstrators who threw rocks and flares at them and tore down fences. Photo: Beck Diefenbach / AP

 
Occupy Oakland protestors burn an American flag found inside Oakland City Hall during an Occupy Oakland protest on the steps of City Hall, Saturday, January 28, 2012, in Oakland, Calif. Photo: Beck Diefenbach / AP

 
An Oakland City police officer stomps out a burning American flag after Occupy Oakland protestors set City Hall's flag on fire during an Occupy Oakland protest, Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012, in Oakland, Calif. Photo: Beck Diefenbach / AP

 
 


Hopefully the photos worked that time. Apologies.

Edited again to add the photographer's website. He is quite good, and a quick guess is that he is sympathetic to Occupy, so please, no casting asparagus upon him. http://beckdiefenbach.com/editorial/
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2012, 04:06:47 PM »
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46. Do those "average people" live in Oakland?

The country has huge problems, record poverty and foreclosure. We are living OWS. If anyone has a flag hangup, I daresay they are still eating regular meals in their comfortable home. 

It's okay to burn flags en masse if any little ol' woe strikes you now according to this DUmmy.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2012, 04:12:32 PM »
Next time they want to burn a flag, I say we help them do it up right. We steal a firetruck, load it with gas and hose the whole crowd down with gasoline right after the first sign of fire.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 04:14:55 PM »
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4. Are you referring to a splinter group?
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9. The burning flag pictures?

Well, I'll say it before someone else does... I'll bet it was REALLY police infiltrators doing this and not occupiers.

No, I don't believe that's really the case, but it COULD be. Prove it's not.
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31. Lmao

Never fail to be so amused here with the ridiculous theories.


Response to hughee99 (Reply #9)Sun Jan 29, 2012, 04:53 PM
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35. Wouldn't even have to be police . . .

. . . it could be any paid provocateur working on behalf of any one of the MANY parties who have an interest in discrediting OWS.


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38. It's just dumb...

... like it is TOTALLY beyond the realm of possibility that anyone associated with OWS would burn/desecrate/disrespect the symbol of America.

I can't take people seriously who aren't even close to having a grasp of reality.
It's MIHOP and LIHOP at the OWS. 
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 04:16:14 PM »
Yep and we're rollin, rollin on a river.

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9. The burning flag pictures?


http://www.wggb.com/2012/01/29/oakland-to-assess-damage-after-occupy-protests/

Well, I'll say it before someone else does... I'll bet it was REALLY police infiltrators doing this and not occupiers.

No, I don't believe that's really the case, but it COULD be. Prove it's not.

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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 04:30:50 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on January 29, 2012, 04:16:14 PM
Yep and we're rollin, rollin on a river.

De Nile, it's not just for Egyptians any more.

They dammed the Nile...so Damn OWS.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 04:31:42 PM »
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35. Wouldn't even have to be police . . .

. . . it could be any paid provocateur working on behalf of any one of the MANY parties who have an interest in discrediting OWS.

You greedy, filthy, lazy leeches do a perfectly acceptable job of discrediting your own selves.

Why would we need to send in anyone ?
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM »
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9. The burning flag pictures?

Well, I'll say it before someone else does... I'll bet it was REALLY police infiltrators doing this and not occupiers.

No, I don't believe that's really the case, but it COULD be. Prove it's not.

You made the accusation, you prove that it wasn't one of your own, you intellectually and physically lazy bastard.

The rotten little ****ers can do the deed, but no, they can't take responsibility for it.  It has to be someone else who's to blame.

Suck it numbnuts, your own kind did it, the pic is there for all to see, now accept that your movement is dead and your 15 ****ing minutes are up.

Disband, take a bath, get an education, work hard, and enjoy life, not envy the wealth that others have.

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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 05:29:27 PM »
I see where this stupid-assed idea came from... the mayor of Oakland.

She should be removed from office for being this dumb.  Splinter-group, my rosy red ass.
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(Reuters) -- “Once again, a violent splinter group of the Occupy movement is engaging in violent actions against Oakland,” Mayor Jean Quan, who has come under criticism for the city’s handling of the Occupy movement, said at a late evening press conference.

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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 05:34:24 PM »
I love the American Flag, and if anyone tried to burn it in front of me I'd hit them upside the head.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2012, 06:00:41 PM »
So we have a left-wing mayor, in a blue hellhole urban swamp, having to deal with the crazies that she's always pandered to.

As Sarah Imaboobi always says, "I just love Occupy!"

Incidentally, since the Occupoopers are wrecking the already-wrecked shithole Oakland, I wonder why we haven't heard from DUmmy Taverner.

He's always been a full-time downtown Oakland junkie. Maybe, as expected, he ODed off this mortal coil. If so, good.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2012, 06:07:53 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 29, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
Maybe, as expected, he ODed off this mortal coil. If so, good.
One can only hope.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2012, 06:09:14 PM »
When the occupoopers start burning korans in public, then I will be impressed.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 09:18:11 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on January 29, 2012, 05:34:24 PM
I love the American Flag, and if anyone tried to burn it in front of me I'd hit them upside the head.

Naw... that's a ticket to jail for assault. Better thing to do is jump in and "help them" burn the flag... and if they happen to catch on fire demonstrating their free speech rights, well that's the way the cookie crumbles. It was an unfortunate accident.

 :-) :-)

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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2012, 09:38:02 PM »
The occupoopers may be annoying, but we owe them thanks for becoming the new face of the democrat party.

Every time the occupoopers cause more disruptions and damage in their blue cesspool cities, the democrat party loses more votes.

They'll fade away, but let's hope it doesn't happen before the election.

It was deadbeats exactly like the occupoopers who put President Nixon over the top in 1968.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2012, 11:05:00 PM »
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35. Wouldn't even have to be police . . .

. . . it could be any paid provocateur working on behalf of any one of the MANY parties who have an interest in discrediting OWS.

Or it could be an OWSer posing as a paid provocateur posing as an OWSer to give OWS cover in case any of their group started acting up.

Hey, this is easy!


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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 11:09:21 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on January 29, 2012, 09:18:11 PM
Naw... that's a ticket to jail for assault. Better thing to do is jump in and "help them" burn the flag... and if they happen to catch on fire demonstrating their free speech rights, well that's the way the cookie crumbles. It was an unfortunate accident.

:-) :-)

OK, I'll GENTLY, REAL GENTLY, SERIOUSLY GENTLY, LIKE REALLY REALLY GENTLY, AS GENTLY AS I POSSIBLY CAN, pat them on the head and say "good job". :-)
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 11:53:56 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on January 29, 2012, 09:18:11 PM
Naw... that's a ticket to jail for assault. Better thing to do is jump in and "help them" burn the flag... and if they happen to catch on fire demonstrating their free speech rights, well that's the way the cookie crumbles. It was an unfortunate accident.

 :-) :-)



You think the judge would still believe that you were "Jus' tryin' to stomp out the flames" if you were wearing cleats ?
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 12:21:46 AM »
Quote from: LC EFA on January 29, 2012, 11:53:56 PM
You think the judge would still believe that you were "Jus' tryin' to stomp out the flames" if you were wearing cleats ?


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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 04:46:01 AM »
Quote from: LC EFA on January 29, 2012, 11:53:56 PM
You think the judge would still believe that you were "Jus' tryin' to stomp out the flames" if you were wearing cleats ?


Depends on the judge.

You get a limp-wristed, Haaavaaaard "educated", Supreme Court wannabe, YOU will be guilty before you entered the courtroom, especially if you told him you were a fan of Rush Limbaugh.

You get a former Vietnam vet who received a similar "welcome home" from his tour of duty, and hasn't forgotten about it, you're golden!
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 05:45:05 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on January 30, 2012, 04:46:01 AM
Depends on the judge.

You get a limp-wristed, Haaavaaaard "educated", Supreme Court wannabe, YOU will be guilty before you entered the courtroom, especially if you told him you were a fan of Rush Limbaugh.

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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 05:49:07 AM »
Quote from: jukin on January 29, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
When the occupoopers start burning korans in public, then I will be impressed.

That will never, ever happen, not a koran, no.  I can see them burning Bibles in a heartbeat however and every DUmpmonkie will defend that.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 08:41:55 AM »


Is it just me , or does the guy holding the burning flag look like he could be a member of La Raza?
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 09:03:09 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 29, 2012, 06:00:41 PM
He's always been a full-time downtown Oakland junkie. Maybe, as expected, he ODed off this mortal coil. If so, good.

I think we'd notice the sudden spike in US productivity in the economic stats, so I'm guessing he's still around.
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Re: Kill the messenger, kill him NOW!
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 09:08:26 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on January 30, 2012, 08:41:55 AM


Is it just me , or does the guy holding the burning flag look like he could be a member of La Raza?

Yep, you'd never see him do that to a Mexican flag, I'm sure.
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