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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2012, 09:44:32 PM »
Chill out on this thread.

Condolences on your dog, ma'am. It is never easy.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2012, 10:12:14 PM »
I thought I already posting to you but I guess I didn't. I'm sorry to eart about your Dog. :(

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2012, 10:19:34 PM »
I'm so sorry, Mrs.Smith, and I'm praying God eases your heart as He lights the way to the Rainbow Bridge for your little guy.  How happy he will be to see your Dad again.
Monday I'm due to hear the verdict on my 14-year old mixed retriever/spitz/chow, Sandy.  She's got lumps everywhere that are huge, and the vet thinks her spleen is involved.  We ran the tests Friday and I'm expecting the vet to call if not Monday, then Tuesday.  Just lost my Casey hound to splenic and liver cancer this past April, and Dominic my mini schnauzer in Oct 2010 to pancreatic cancer.

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It's so sad with cancer getting so many of our dogs. Here's hoping for the best news possible next week. I love Betty White, who is active with the Morris Animal Foundation, which is funding research on cancer in our pets. It's like an epidemic. Hugs to you, too.

 

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2012, 10:24:20 PM »
It's so sad with cancer getting so many of our dogs. Here's hoping for the best news possible next week. I love Betty White, who is active with the Morris Animal Foundation, which is funding research on cancer in our pets. It's like an epidemic. Hugs to you, too.

 

Thanks, SLW.  I am very sad to read all these pet threads. :bawl:
There are so many good people out there who love animals and do the things, great and small, which make their lives better.  I too love Betty White, and all the others like her.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2012, 10:44:56 PM »
My condolences, MrsSmith. Losing them is the hardest thing.
We have a female pit bull  and a male cat. Today the cat came home after being out much longer than usual. He was covered in mud and pine needles and obviously torn up pretty well. After a run through the bath he is at least clean now but limping. Something got a hold of him and I suspect the neighbor's dogs from two doors down, a Lab mutt and a Scottie. They have an invisible fence in the backyard but that doesn't stop them if they spot my cat over here in our yard. Twice now I have had him at the vet getting patched up after being jumped by them -in our own yard- and I fear losing him to them one of these days.

I hope it goes well and as best as can be hoped for.


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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 12:34:58 AM »
I am so sorry, MrsSmith.  :bawl:
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 06:48:03 AM »
I've never really been so attached to a pet that I've found it at all difficult or all that sad to have them put down.  However, I will say this: I do understand and empathize with your situation, but don't let your personal attachment to your pets get in the way of relieving them of their pain and suffering.  If you truly love your pets, you will say your goodbyes and let them go when it is their time to go.  Prolonging their suffering because you can't let them go is not love -- it's selfishness.  We, as humans, are capable of rising above that and making the hard decisions out of love.  Be grateful for the time you've had with your pet, not sorrowful for the time you will be losing.

You know if she was NOT going to put him down, then I would agree with your post.  However, she is doing that and is just looking for some cyber-support from some people she has come to know well here.   So yeah, this was harsh and not necessary. 


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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 06:48:36 AM »
Sorry Mrs. Smith.  :(

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2012, 08:58:21 AM »
It's so sad with cancer getting so many of our dogs. Here's hoping for the best news possible next week. I love Betty White, who is active with the Morris Animal Foundation, which is funding research on cancer in our pets. It's like an epidemic. Hugs to you, too.

 
I believe cancer is an epidemic in all creatures right now, at least all domestic ones.  That may be because we've cured so many of the things that would otherwise take animals younger, like distemper.  It is very sad, but compared to losing 1/2 of them as puppies, it's better to have them for several years.  It's just really sad in the end, either way.  The only way to avoid it, though, is to have no pets.  Not going to happen... 
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2012, 09:00:59 AM »
My condolences, MrsSmith. Losing them is the hardest thing.
We have a female pit bull  and a male cat. Today the cat came home after being out much longer than usual. He was covered in mud and pine needles and obviously torn up pretty well. After a run through the bath he is at least clean now but limping. Something got a hold of him and I suspect the neighbor's dogs from two doors down, a Lab mutt and a Scottie. They have an invisible fence in the backyard but that doesn't stop them if they spot my cat over here in our yard. Twice now I have had him at the vet getting patched up after being jumped by them -in our own yard- and I fear losing him to them one of these days.

I hope it goes well and as best as can be hoped for.
Wow, your poor cat!  We are currently working on teaching our newest cat to stay indoors, and it's an uphill battle.  It must be done for a similar reason, we're moving outside town in a few weeks, and don't want him to be coyote bait.  Have you considered doing that with your cat?  It sucks because the dog owners should have better control of their dogs, but it seems that won't happen.   :mad:
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2012, 09:38:46 AM »
I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.   

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2012, 10:29:28 AM »
Wow, your poor cat!  We are currently working on teaching our newest cat to stay indoors, and it's an uphill battle.  It must be done for a similar reason, we're moving outside town in a few weeks, and don't want him to be coyote bait.  Have you considered doing that with your cat?  It sucks because the dog owners should have better control of their dogs, but it seems that won't happen.   :mad:
Years ago I volunteered as an adoption counselor at the Humane Society. They made adopters of cats sign an agreement to keep their cats indoors. Of course, it wasn't enforced.

I don't like those invisible fences. My first greyhound, Jessie, whom I lost to cancer years ago was attacked by a dog behind an invisible fence. When dogs want to go through them, they can. Besides the stupid neighbors left an aggressive dog outside when they weren't home. My dog's tail was shredded and ran up almost a $5k bill trying to ease his pain.

The neighbors got really upset because a friend of mine was a writer for the St Louis Post-Dispatch and at the time was the editor of a section on pets that ran in the Saturday paper. She wrote a story about invisible fences and used my name and my Jessie's name in the article. All the neighbors knew who we were talking about. Poor people, they were embarassed. I got the bills for the vet. It took them 3 months to pay for just the initial $225 vet bill. I paid the other $4k plus. I had to ask them at least 5 or 6 times before they paid. They weren't poor people, had a newer BMW, sent their kids to fancy private schools, had a nice house. They were simply jerks who never apologized.

I'm usually more subtle, but hearing that dog moan every night and having to give him those phentonyl (sp) patches for the extreme pain (had to wear gloves before putting them on him) did something to me. At a neighborhood picnic I approached the guy. I'm hoping my voice didn't get too high, but I asked him if he wanted to know how Jessie was doing. He didn't respond, so I told him Jessie was dead. He said he didn't care. He was a big guy, the head of a construction company, but I made a few choice remarks to him.

Afterwards I thought that I did it for Jessie. I've never gotten that angry before nor since. Jessie was my heart dog and that guy was a putz. So was his wife. I was so angry because due to the infection he got from the dog attack, the vets at the U. of Mo Vet School told me there was basically nothing I could do for the osteosarcoma that appeared near the site of that attack. I've learned since not to go to such heroic efforts with osteosarcoma. You can't beat that damned cancer, no matter how you try. Mrs. Smith is indeed doing the right thing. I'm ashamed now that I prolonged Jessie's life for so long with about every supplement that I could find at Whole Foods.He got an extra year, but at what a price to both Jess and to me.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2012, 09:08:09 PM »
My condolences to you and your family Mrs. Smith.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2012, 10:59:23 PM »
Thank you all again.  It's been a far better weekend than I first expected.  Not only has Scottie been running out and in with the other dogs, he actually ate a little food today, and even part of a MilkBone tonight.  He has spent most of the weekend sleeping comfortably, and has obviously been happy to be back home.  Tomorrow, what needs done will be quick and painless.  For him. 

And for Nunya or Jinx or whoever our newest poster might be, rest assured that I did not bring Scottie back home to "suffer needlessly."  I appreciate that those posts were diverted to Fight Club, so thanks to the mods that did that.  You guys are the best!
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2012, 11:25:47 PM »
We lost our little 5 year old dog to a short illness, at home we still had a 14-16 year old dog at home, we adopted him when he was young and they weren't sure of his age, this dog loved to eat, he had an enlarged spleen, the prognosis wasn't good, but I told the vet as long as he had an appetite we weren't going to do anything. Right after we lost our little 1 he had trouble walking and eventually couldn't walk at all, but I still couldn't put him to sleep because even though he couldn't walk he wasn't in pain, and I'd put his bowl in front of him and damn he'd eat the whole thing. I literally carried him out 3 times a day to go to the bathroom, and then haul him down the basement to clean him off in the sink, people thought I was nuts, but because he still loved eating I just couldn't put him down. His spleen blew 1 night and he was howling in pain, and when I put food in front of him he wouldn't eat, that's when I knew. We took him in the next morning and made the decision.

The loss of 2 dogs in a 6 month period was too much and I haven't had a dog since.  :bawl:
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2012, 05:16:07 AM »

The loss of 2 dogs in a 6 month period was too much and I haven't had a dog since.  :bawl:

I understand the desire to eliminate any grief, but in doing so, you're missing all the joy and pleasures that a Dog can bring.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2012, 05:19:11 AM »
Thank you all again.  It's been a far better weekend than I first expected.  Not only has Scottie been running out and in with the other dogs, he actually ate a little food today, and even part of a MilkBone tonight.  He has spent most of the weekend sleeping comfortably, and has obviously been happy to be back home.  Tomorrow, what needs done will be quick and painless.  For him. 

And for Nunya or Jinx or whoever our newest poster might be, rest assured that I did not bring Scottie back home to "suffer needlessly."  I appreciate that those posts were diverted to Fight Club, so thanks to the mods that did that.  You guys are the best!

Thoughts and prayers with you this morning, Mrs. Smith. Your decision turned out to be the right one for Scottie and for yourself.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2012, 05:24:04 AM »
I understand the desire to eliminate any grief, but in doing so, you're missing all the joy and pleasures that a Dog can bring.

That's the way I feel too.

It hurts, badly, in the end, but all that came before is immeasurably greater than that hurt.

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2012, 05:57:07 AM »
Years ago I volunteered as an adoption counselor at the Humane Society. They made adopters of cats sign an agreement to keep their cats indoors. Of course, it wasn't enforced.

I don't like those invisible fences. My first greyhound, Jessie, whom I lost to cancer years ago was attacked by a dog behind an invisible fence. When dogs want to go through them, they can. Besides the stupid neighbors left an aggressive dog outside when they weren't home. My dog's tail was shredded and ran up almost a $5k bill trying to ease his pain.

The neighbors got really upset because a friend of mine was a writer for the St Louis Post-Dispatch and at the time was the editor of a section on pets that ran in the Saturday paper. She wrote a story about invisible fences and used my name and my Jessie's name in the article. All the neighbors knew who we were talking about. Poor people, they were embarassed. I got the bills for the vet. It took them 3 months to pay for just the initial $225 vet bill. I paid the other $4k plus. I had to ask them at least 5 or 6 times before they paid. They weren't poor people, had a newer BMW, sent their kids to fancy private schools, had a nice house. They were simply jerks who never apologized.

I'm usually more subtle, but hearing that dog moan every night and having to give him those phentonyl (sp) patches for the extreme pain (had to wear gloves before putting them on him) did something to me. At a neighborhood picnic I approached the guy. I'm hoping my voice didn't get too high, but I asked him if he wanted to know how Jessie was doing. He didn't respond, so I told him Jessie was dead. He said he didn't care. He was a big guy, the head of a construction company, but I made a few choice remarks to him.

Afterwards I thought that I did it for Jessie. I've never gotten that angry before nor since. Jessie was my heart dog and that guy was a putz. So was his wife. I was so angry because due to the infection he got from the dog attack, the vets at the U. of Mo Vet School told me there was basically nothing I could do for the osteosarcoma that appeared near the site of that attack. I've learned since not to go to such heroic efforts with osteosarcoma. You can't beat that damned cancer, no matter how you try. Mrs. Smith is indeed doing the right thing. I'm ashamed now that I prolonged Jessie's life for so long with about every supplement that I could find at Whole Foods.He got an extra year, but at what a price to both Jess and to me.



 

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Wow, your poor cat!  We are currently working on teaching our newest cat to stay indoors, and it's an uphill battle.  It must be done for a similar reason, we're moving outside town in a few weeks, and don't want him to be coyote bait.  Have you considered doing that with your cat?  It sucks because the dog owners should have better control of their dogs, but it seems that won't happen.  

Years ago I volunteered as an adoption counselor at the Humane Society. They made adopters of cats sign an agreement to keep their cats indoors. Of course, it wasn't enforced.

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I don't like those invisible fences. My first greyhound, Jessie, whom I lost to cancer years ago was attacked by a dog behind an invisible fence. When dogs want to go through them, they can. Besides the stupid neighbors left an aggressive dog outside when they weren't home. My dog's tail was shredded and ran up almost a $5k bill trying to ease his pain.  

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What people do not understand is what if the cat  or dog were not the target but a child.  

So visiting a BBQ cook out with a 3 year old, and the child is not on a leash, they run after a butterfly and go onto property with the invisable fence for their dogs.  

What then, the child is pray, same as cats and dogs that enter the property.    

Horrible about our pets, but what about a little kid that even with parents at their side know nothing about the invisible fence or the dogs behind it, out of sight until pray comes into their  territory.

These fences can be jumped dogs are not stupid, I watched this as I took my pooch for a run on the river bank on Mom's property.   Neighbors dog well trained and within the owners fence saw us with the little guy, became excited and jumped the fence and barrelled ass towards us.   Just to sniff the puppy but we all patted the dog and friendly as could be. no problem, good friendly dog, but I wonder if the puppy had wandered into and over the electric fence onto their property.   How would the dog have reacted had the puppy wandered over the fence into this dogs domain ??

    
 

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2012, 06:14:31 AM »
Dogs In Heaven?

An old man and his dog were walking down this dirt road with fences on both sides, they came to a gate in the fence and looked in, it was nice grassy, woody areas, just what a 'huntin' dog and man would like, but, it had a sign saying 'no trespassing' so they walked on. They came to a beautiful gate with a person in white robes standing there. "Welcome to Heaven" he said. The old man was happy and started in with his dog following him. The gatekeeper stopped him. "Dogs aren't allowed, I'm sorry but he can't come with you."

"What kind of Heaven won't allow dogs? If he can't come in, then I will stay out with him. He's been my faithful companion all his life, I can't desert him now."

"Suit yourself, but I have to warn you, the Devil's on this road and he'll try to sweet talk you into his area, he'll promise you anything, but the dog can't go there either. If you won't leave the dog, you'll spend Eternity on this road."

So the old man and dog went on. They came to a rundown fence with a gap in it, no gate, just a hole. Another old man was inside. "S'cuse me Sir, my dog and I are getting mighty tired, mind if we come in and sit in the shade for awhile?"

"Of course, there's some cold water under that tree over there. Make yourselves comfortable"

"You're sure my dog can come in? The man down the road said dogs weren't allowed anywhere."

"Would you come in if you had to leave the dog?"

"No sir, that's why I didn't go to Heaven, he said the dog couldn't come in.
We'll be spending Eternity on this road, and a glass of cold water and some shade would be mighty fine right about now. But, I won't come in if my buddy here can't come too, and that's final."

The man smiled a big smile and said "Welcome to Heaven."

"You mean this is Heaven? Dogs ARE allowed? How come that fellow down the road said they weren't?"

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2012, 06:27:31 AM »
I thought I already posting to you but I guess I didn't. I'm sorry to eart about your Dog. :(

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2012, 07:04:52 AM »
Thoughts and prayers for you today Mrs Smith.  :grouphug:
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2012, 08:55:32 AM »
I understand the desire to eliminate any grief, but in doing so, you're missing all the joy and pleasures that a Dog can bring.

I know, I sometimes think I need to speak to an animal psychologist to get over my fear.
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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2012, 11:50:39 AM »
I just saw this.  I didn't cry at all when we had to put down our Siberian Husky that we had, when I was a lad.  I don't know why.  When my in-laws had to put down their Papillon, I actually did shed a couple of tears.  When Oreo goes, it'll be tough, as that cat seems to love me.

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Re: Sad weekend at our house
« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2012, 06:06:56 PM »
I know it's not "standard Christian theology" that dogs or other animals go to Heaven, but I'm one that takes God at His literal word when He says that all things will be provided for our happiness.  I am quite sure that Scotty had a joyous reunion with Mom and Dad this morning, and is now contentedly dozing on whatever kind of sofa they have. 
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