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Not going to see the president today
« on: January 26, 2012, 09:56:12 AM »
Was offered the chance. I said I was having my hair done today.

It's for the best, lest I be caught on TV giving the facepalm seen around the world; because you know he will say some stupid shit.

Meanwhile, as the CinC uses troops as political stage props:

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Army plans to slash the number of combat brigades from 45 to as low as 32 in a broad restructuring of its fighting force aimed at cutting costs and reducing the service by about 80,000 soldiers, according to U.S. officials familiar with the plans.

http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-army-cut-combat-brigades-175948392.html

Hopefully congress will tell him to ****-off.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 04:22:43 PM »
I think that's about twice the size of hit the Army was expecting to take.  A third of the maneuver brigades going away is going to be pretty brutal.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 05:12:26 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 26, 2012, 04:22:43 PM
I think that's about twice the size of hit the Army was expecting to take.  A third of the maneuver brigades going away is going to be pretty brutal.

As congress has the purview to decide how big a military to fund does the corollary give them the right to reject proposed cuts?
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 05:48:52 PM »
Yes, but paying for them is the problem then, because you know the "Savings" are already cranked into the rest of the President's budget numbers, so they either have to bump the taxes up or cut something else to do that.  Congress, regardless of who controls it, generally tends to buy expensive shit like more ships or more aircraft than DOD requested, rather than keep more Soldiers and Marines around.   
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 06:36:10 PM »
And the MARINES will be cut by 20,000...no rank advancement for aaawhile.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 06:48:34 PM »
Part of the reason Glorious Comrade Leader wants to slash the military (apart from generally dragging down the whole nation as per his general agenda) is that military folks tend to vote republican.

I see this backfiring on him. It will only serve to strengthen the resolve of those who get fired from their jobs (military) for no good reason.

The only plus side I see to that is it will reduce the number of votes discounted by the old shenanigans of not getting absentee ballots out to the troops or "losing" them so that they are not counted.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 08:13:42 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 26, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
Yes, but paying for them is the problem then, because you know the "Savings" are already cranked into the rest of the President's budget numbers, so they either have to bump the taxes up or cut something else to do that.  Congress, regardless of who controls it, generally tends to buy expensive shit like more ships or more aircraft than DOD requested, rather than keep more Soldiers and Marines around.   

What budget?

What is this, Day 1003?

I guess Obama's national defense strategy is tobe so broke nobody would want us because of the debt overhead.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 08:30:14 PM »
They offered you to come to Las Vegas while he was here today?  Or is this for another location where he will be blabbing his mouth?
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 07:29:55 AM »
Jesus, and I thought the cutbacks under Clinton were brutal. 
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 07:34:40 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on January 27, 2012, 07:29:55 AM
Jesus, and I thought the cutbacks under Clinton were brutal. 

Little by little the democrats must make us as weak as you-are-peeing countries.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 08:21:36 AM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on January 26, 2012, 08:30:14 PM
They offered you to come to Las Vegas while he was here today?  Or is this for another location where he will be blabbing his mouth?

Buckley Air Force Base in Aurora Colorado. He was lecturing the military on how they needed to be more green.

Buckley is so green you have to use special ammunition to shoot at their small arms range.

So the COARNG troops more times than not charter buses and lug entire units up to Wyoming if Ft Carson is not available because it's cheaper that way.

Buckley also has a major prairie dog infestation but you cannot kill them. They must be live trapped and released. They use to have a giant "Pup Sucker;" a vacuum you could stick over their burrows and suck them out but that hasn't been used in years. I wanted to take the Pup Sucker, vacuum up a load then wheel it to the I-25 overpass and throw it into reverse. THOOMP! THOOMP! THOOMP! Scree-e-e-e-e-eech! Honk! Honk! Ho-o-o-onk! Ee-e-eek!

It would be ....glorious.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 08:32:02 AM »
To paraphrase Arthur Carlson:

"As God is my witness, I thought prarie dogs could fly..."
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 09:48:31 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on January 26, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
What budget?

What is this, Day 1003?

I guess Obama's national defense strategy is tobe so broke nobody would want us because of the debt overhead.

There is still a budget that OMB regulates Executive Branch spending from, regardless of whether Congress passes one or not.  The main effect of not passing a formal budget is that it stalls any entirely-new programs that require both a specific appropriation and authorization from Congress, everything else continues to get funded incrementally under continuing resolution authority.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 12:03:42 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on January 27, 2012, 08:21:36 AM
Buckley also has a major prairie dog infestation but you cannot kill them. They must be live trapped and released. They use to have a giant "Pup Sucker;" a vacuum you could stick over their burrows and suck them out but that hasn't been used in years. I wanted to take the Pup Sucker, vacuum up a load then wheel it to the I-25 overpass and throw it into reverse. THOOMP! THOOMP! THOOMP! Scree-e-e-e-e-eech! Honk! Honk! Ho-o-o-onk! Ee-e-eek!

It would be ....glorious.

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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 12:16:33 PM »
So in another thread I was reading about the little boy in Soboygay (or whatever), he said this is the president that creates jobs.

So I am confused...

He isn't allowing the pipeline and he wants to cut military jobs.  So that's 30,000+ jobs he isssssssnnn't creating.  Hmmmm
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 01:00:40 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on January 27, 2012, 08:21:36 AM
It would be ....glorious.

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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 11:50:44 PM »
My son still keeps in touch with his Master Chief, and he told me last week that Chief had told him that he was having to tell a lot of good sailors, they couldn't stay in.  :mad:

As if it's not bad enough that our military forces are taking drastic cuts, thanks to the media, all our enemies know it too.   :censored: :censored: :censored:
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2012, 08:33:03 AM »
If anyone remembers the "Qualitative Management Program" NCO bloodbath from the 90's we're going back there again, centralized promotion boards will screen any NCO with a blackmark and under 18 years service for elimination at the same time they are reviewing those without them for promotion.  The cuts are not just going to be reducing the intake.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2012, 09:36:05 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2012, 08:33:03 AM
If anyone remembers the "Qualitative Management Program" NCO bloodbath from the 90's we're going back there again, centralized promotion boards will screen any NCO with a blackmark and under 18 years service for elimination at the same time they are reviewing those without them for promotion.  The cuts are not just going to be reducing the intake.

Not only QMP, but I served with several guys who were offered early outs. I think if they'd had 15 years or more, in certain MOS's, they'd be eligible for a lump sum payout and a nice pat on the ass as they went out. My own MOS was eligible, but with 18 years in, no way Jose.

I thought it was insane for them to do so, but some were encouraged due to weight control and other types of issues.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2012, 09:47:14 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on January 30, 2012, 09:36:05 AM
Not only QMP, but I served with several guys who were offered early outs. I think if they'd had 15 years or more, in certain MOS's, they'd be eligible for a lump sum payout and a nice pat on the ass as they went out. My own MOS was eligible, but with 18 years in, no way Jose.

I thought it was insane for them to do so, but some were encouraged due to weight control and other types of issues.

True, that was the voluntary side of it, QMP was the dark side of it.  I saw guys with ten-years-past black marks, fine records afterward, and 17 years of service thrown over the side like used TP, it was all pretty depressing.  A great lesson in the futility of emotional loyalty to institutions, since institutions don't reciprocate it but do what is expedient for themselves.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2012, 09:50:43 AM »
All of this is why I punched out after 27 years. Hate to say it----- but I saw the trends, connected the dots and crossed the frackin' meta-phobic Rubic's Cube...


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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2012, 09:55:09 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on January 30, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
All of this is why I punched out after 27 years. Hate to say it----- but I saw the trends, connected the dots and crossed the frackin' meta-phobic Rubic's Cube...


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You had a good career, dutch. Nothing to rue over. And yeah, when it's time, it's time.

As for me, I had no intention of serving past 20 years, regardless. I was 38 when I retired, plenty young enough for another career -- which is exactly what happened. And I'm now 17 years in that 2nd career, with ~7 more to do before THIS institution can kiss my rosy red ass after I punch out permanently from the work force.
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 10:02:12 AM »
Quote from: dutch508 on January 30, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
All of this is why I punched out after 27 years. Hate to say it----- but I saw the trends, connected the dots and crossed the frackin' meta-phobic Rubic's Cube...


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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 10:58:00 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on January 30, 2012, 10:02:12 AM
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Re: Not going to see the president today
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 08:20:25 AM »
Quote from: Eupher on January 30, 2012, 09:36:05 AM
Not only QMP, but I served with several guys who were offered early outs. I think if they'd had 15 years or more, in certain MOS's, they'd be eligible for a lump sum payout and a nice pat on the ass as they went out. My own MOS was eligible, but with 18 years in, no way Jose.

I thought it was insane for them to do so, but some were encouraged due to weight control and other types of issues.

Of course, with my NEC, I could have humped the Admiral's daughter in front of the dive tower on Subase Pearl and still not been offered early out.

Choose your rate, choose your fate.  Oh, and anyone think this isn't gonna REALLY **** over SRB's or enlistment bonuses?  Yeah, here we go again.
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