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Offline Gina

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Which law supercedes the other?
« on: January 24, 2012, 06:31:04 AM »
Settle a hot topic between hubby and I please.

We have a state law that slower traffic must move over to right lane. 

The speed limit is 70mph.

I say the "move over" law supercedes the speed limit law and you must get over even if you are doing above the speed limit.

He says that if you are doing 70mph in the left lane you are not breaking the law and it is the others that are breaking the law so he isn't getting over.

I told him I was going to post this so let me know who is right.  Thanks!






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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 06:49:38 AM »
Technically he is right.  However only fartheads and liberals won't get over when someone wants to pass.  I just pass them on the right.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 06:54:45 AM »
I was thinking that the get over law supercedes because "we" are not the police so we are not the ones to control who speeds.  The law clearly states that slower moving traffic must get over so even if you were doing 80mph and someone came up behind you going faster you must get over or you would be breaking that law. 







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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 07:08:04 AM »
The move over law probably says something to the effect of "when it is safe to do so," otherwise you could accelerate to 110 to pass a line of traffic and argue with the cop you were following the law.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 07:11:36 AM »
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Mississippi Keep Right was founded to address the problems that undisciplined motorists create on our roads and freeways. People driving slowly in the passing lanes cause a hazard by impeding the free flow of traffic. Failure to "Keep Right" negatively impacts three main issues: traffic safety, traffic congestion and emergency response. With your support, through public awareness, stronger "Keep Right" laws, and increased "Keep Right" traffic enforcement, we will make Mississippi a safer and more enjoyable place in which to drive.

There are many traffic safety laws. “SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT” may be the most important. Not only is it a law, but also a guide on how to maintain order on today’s busy roads and freeways. With an ever increasing amount of vehicles and usually between two and four lanes this is the only way that motorists of differing speeds can share the road safely and orderly. Lane Courtesy by motorists can have an immediate impact on all of Mississippi roads. Driver education is our number one priority!

The need for motorists to "Keep Right" is critical when an emergency vehicle is approaching from behind with flashing lights and sirens.   It is the Law!  All too often drivers panic or freeze.  Many drivers do not know what to do when an emergency vehicle approaches with flashing lights and sirens.  In most states the law states that you should, "Yield to emergency vehicles with flashing lights and sirens.   Safely and Immediately move to the right hand edge of the roadway clear of any intersection."  If motorists obeyed the "Keep Right" laws at all times, "First Responders" would reach emergencies faster and safer, which would result in more lives being saved.

Undisciplined motorists that impede the flow of traffic through ignorance, inattention, or just being inconsiderate show a disregard for public safety and the normal practice of defensive driving. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Whether you drive fast, slow, or moderate, people that drive slowly in the passing lanes cause a hazard for all of us. We need your help to make our roads and freeways safer and less congested.







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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 07:48:25 AM »
You are correct, Gina. It is illegal to drive in the left lane. The left lane is supposed to be used for passing only.

Of course, it's not really enforced.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 07:56:15 AM »
It is my understanding that you can only pass at the speed limit.  So technically he is right.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 08:46:38 AM »
He's wrong.  The keep right law says nothing about '...except if you're already speeding.'  He's just being a dick and driving aggressively, if the right lane is clear and he could move over.  If he's actually passing somebody slower than him, and and the guy behind him just wants to go faster, then he is in the right to stay in the passing lane until he safely finishes the maneuver.

He'll eventually find out the hard way when he road-hogs a cop in an unmarked car, though.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 09:59:48 AM »
I was thinking that the get over law supercedes because "we" are not the police so we are not the ones to control who speeds.  The law clearly states that slower moving traffic must get over so even if you were doing 80mph and someone came up behind you going faster you must get over or you would be breaking that law



Same as Cali. No matter what, YOU have to get out of the way.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 10:01:46 AM »
Same as Cali. No matter what, YOU have to get out of the way.
You can also get ticketed for impeding traffic.  It normally appllies to people going below the speed limit (usually considered 10-15 mph under), but I suppose it would apply in this case as well.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 10:19:04 AM »
He'll eventually find out the hard way when he road-hogs a cop in an unmarked car, though.

Police can and will issue tickets for impeding the flow of traffic, regardless of how fast you're doing.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 10:21:49 AM »
You can also get ticketed for impeding traffic.  It normally appllies to people going below the speed limit (usually considered 10-15 mph under), but I suppose it would apply in this case as well.

In Alaska, if you have more than 5 vehicles behind you on the road, you must pull over to let them pass or you can get a nice ticket.

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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 10:25:54 AM »
In Alaska, if you have more than 5 vehicles behind you on the road, you must pull over to let them pass or you can get a nice ticket.
Rush hour is a bitch, ain't it? :-)

Sounds like some of the small towns around here.  Rush hour lasts about twenty minutes.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 10:38:18 AM »
Rush hour is a bitch, ain't it? :-)

Sounds like some of the small towns around here.  Rush hour lasts about twenty minutes.

That's the way it used to be when I first moved here.  God they need to get that damned turnpike upgrade finished and the new bridge built.
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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 11:14:27 AM »
Same as Cali. No matter what, YOU have to get out of the way.

Tell me about it.....when we lived in the LA area, I used to take Topanga Canyon every day to my office (its a winding two-lane road).  At that time if you had three cars behind you, you were required to pull off and let them pass.  I received a ticket there on one occasion when I was doing 15 mph OVER the speed limit.

Got another one on the Ventura Freeway......for obstructing traffic......I was doing 85 in the left lane with cars behind me, and the speed limit at that time was 65......

At least they used to seriously enforce it there......

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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 12:48:59 PM »
He's wrong.  The keep right law says nothing about '...except if you're already speeding.'  He's just being a dick and driving aggressively, if the right lane is clear and he could move over.  If he's actually passing somebody slower than him, and and the guy behind him just wants to go faster, then he is in the right to stay in the passing lane until he safely finishes the maneuver.

He'll eventually find out the hard way when he road-hogs a cop in an unmarked car, though.

Interesting. This thing happened to me last Friday. I was passing a 18 wheeler on the I-29 going north to Council Bluffs when some dickhead in a two door black sub compact came up behind me and tried to jam the front of their car in the rear of mine. I put on the brakes to get them to back off and that only pissed them off. They had to be going faster then the posted 70 MPH to even catch up to me. So when I finally get pass the 18 wheeler the cut in front of him and go around and then cut back in front of me. The slammed on the brakes and tried to get me to stop but I just drove around them t avoid a crash. That only pissed them off more because the next thin is they started to follow me and of course they both had to show their love and affection with a one fingered salute. I kept driving and they still followed and I drove to the nearest exit where i was going any way. I pulled into the gas station I was headed to and then these two nut jobs pull in and  try to block me by driving between my car and the next one over. I opened my car door first and blocked the passenger door to their car first.

The passenger rolls the window down and starts to yelling asking me what I was trying to do. I told her I was passing an 18 wheeler and you were speeding. She didn't like that because next thing I know she tells the driver to give her the gun. I told her "Go ahead ,pull it ,see what happeneds next," I was unarmed and made no moves against her except to keep them in their car. I shut my car door and dared that fat bitch to pull her gun. She gets out and keeps yelling obscenities and ask me if I want to fight. All I did was just looked at her and kept thinking that if she wanted to do something she picked the wrong location with about half a dozen witnesses and video surveillance all over the place for the gas station. She finally got in her car and left after I guess she wasn't going to get her way.


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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 01:03:22 PM »
Interesting. This thing happened to me last Friday. I was passing a 18 wheeler on the I-29 going north to Council Bluffs when some dickhead in a two door black sub compact came up behind me and tried to jam the front of their car in the rear of mine. I put on the brakes to get them to back off and that only pissed them off. They had to be going faster then the posted 70 MPH to even catch up to me. So when I finally get pass the 18 wheeler the cut in front of him and go around and then cut back in front of me. The slammed on the brakes and tried to get me to stop but I just drove around them t avoid a crash. That only pissed them off more because the next thin is they started to follow me and of course they both had to show their love and affection with a one fingered salute. I kept driving and they still followed and I drove to the nearest exit where i was going any way. I pulled into the gas station I was headed to and then these two nut jobs pull in and  try to block me by driving between my car and the next one over. I opened my car door first and blocked the passenger door to their car first.

The passenger rolls the window down and starts to yelling asking me what I was trying to do. I told her I was passing an 18 wheeler and you were speeding. She didn't like that because next thing I know she tells the driver to give her the gun. I told her "Go ahead ,pull it ,see what happeneds next," I was unarmed and made no moves against her except to keep them in their car. I shut my car door and dared that fat bitch to pull her gun. She gets out and keeps yelling obscenities and ask me if I want to fight. All I did was just looked at her and kept thinking that if she wanted to do something she picked the wrong location with about half a dozen witnesses and video surveillance all over the place for the gas station. She finally got in her car and left after I guess she wasn't going to get her way.




Wow, she was classy.   You should have reported her to the police, let them scare her at least because you would have had video.






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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 03:32:52 PM »
Wow, she was classy.   You should have reported her to the police, let them scare her at least because you would have had video.

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Re: Which law supercedes the other?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 04:23:31 PM »
We have a keep left unless overtaking law where applicable here. It "ignores" the actual speed limit as such.

However the cops are far more likely to book the person doing over the speed limit in any lane than they are the person doing under/on the speed limit in the overtaking lane (more revenue).