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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2012, 11:30:57 AM »
Beck lost a lot of credibility in my eyes when he said he'd support and vote for Ron Paul.

Newt is far from perfect, but I'll take him over Mitt ANY. FREAKIN. DAY.

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2012, 11:34:56 AM »
Hmmm, his show the other day he was railing against Ron Paul.

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-id-consider-ron-paul-as-third-party-over-newt-gingrich/

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2012, 11:40:37 AM »
Beck lost a lot of credibility in my eyes when he said he'd support and vote for Ron Paul.

Newt is far from perfect, but I'll take him over Mitt ANY. FREAKIN. DAY.

Absolutely........H5 for the Beck remark, he jumped the shark years ago, which is (and this comes from media insiders) why Roger Ailes with Fox dumped him, he became a liability.  As lame as the show (The Five) that was placed in his timeslot is, it's getting better ratings than Beck.

This discussion is a good example of why we conservatives will never get a "true conservative" candidate for the WH.......we're divided into factions that are even more polarized than the Dems......we can't seem to rally around a candidate that is an electable winner......all we do is divide the primary vote until the last man standing is the "moderate" that the establishment Republicans and media support.  It's happened every primary cycle for the past twenty years........
 
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2012, 11:42:33 AM »
Absolutely........H5 for the Beck remark, he jumped the shark years ago, which is (and this comes from media insiders) why Roger Ailes with Fox dumped him, he became a liability.  As lame as the show (The Five) that was placed in his timeslot is, it's getting better ratings than Beck.

This discussion is a good example of why we conservatives will never get a "true conservative" candidate for the WH.......we're divided into factions that are even more polarized than the Dems......we can't seem to rally around a candidate that is an electable winner......all we do is divide the primary vote until the last man standing is the "moderate" that the establishment Republicans and media support.  It's happened every primary cycle for the past twenty years........
 
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20?  Try 80.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2012, 11:47:39 AM »
20?  Try 80.

Don't forget Reagan.......otherwise you would be correct, and even he lost in his first attempt.

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2012, 11:57:45 AM »
Love Newt or hate him I'm going to predict an anti-MSM bounce in his favor.

Cain was torn down with salacious allegations and they're trying to do the same with Newt with a woman who--while righteously indignant--is obviously not moving on emotionally and has a vendetta engineered to take a political toll.

Meanwhile the MSM ran interference for Clinton, Kennedy, Obama etc.

Did you know Debbie Wasserman-Shits' parents are facing prison for political corruption?

Did you know Jesse Jackson in being sued for arrears in child support for his love child?

Probably not I'm guessing, even though these stories are just breaking within the last 48 hours...

...but we're going to rehash Newt's twelve year-old divorce.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2012, 12:01:54 PM »
Absolutely........H5 for the Beck remark, he jumped the shark years ago, which is (and this comes from media insiders) why Roger Ailes with Fox dumped him, he became a liability.  As lame as the show (The Five) that was placed in his timeslot is, it's getting better ratings than Beck.

This discussion is a good example of why we conservatives will never get a "true conservative" candidate for the WH.......we're divided into factions that are even more polarized than the Dems......we can't seem to rally around a candidate that is an electable winner......all we do is divide the primary vote until the last man standing is the "moderate" that the establishment Republicans and media support.  It's happened every primary cycle for the past twenty years........
 
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I didn't say I wouldn't vote for Newt if he was the nominee but it seems that to ignore the statements he has made in the past (and not so distant past), some of the people he has teamed up with and some of the deeds he has done would make all of us pause for a minute before jumping on the bandwagon.  That being said, I would vote for him over Obama any day of the week.

I would pay to see Newt debate Obama, he would crush him.  I'm just a little put off some of his statements (like I mentioned above). Are you not troubled by his admiration on Jackson, FDR and Wilson?  This wasn't something dreamed up by Beck, Newt said it himself.   


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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2012, 12:15:33 PM »
As an interesting aside, let's look back to 2008, the first really "open" primary for both parties.  The DNC exercised tight control on the presented candidates, it was (on the Dem side) always a two person race......Obama and Clinton.......

The Republicans are offered the first real opportunity for a landslide victory in a presidential race in decades, and instead of exercising control, the RNC shows little leadership, and we get eight candidates at the beginning.  Almost three primaries in, and we're still squabbling over four, and this lack of party discipline will inevitably give us Mitt.........just like it yielded McCain in 2008, and Dole before that.

The three "libertarians" should have never been allowed in the race to begin with.......with the right Republican candidate it wouldn't matter if any of them launched a third party challenge, the margin of victory would have been too large.

With strong party leadership, we should have gone into Iowa with Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum.  Santorum would have likely won Iowa by a larger margin, for lack of Bachman (really only a two-state candidate), Romney would have won New Hampshire, and likely Gingrich in SC.......going into Florida we would have had a real horserace, and the outcome would likely not be resolved until "Super Tuesday" as it should be, with the largest number of states and voters participating in the selection.

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2012, 12:15:59 PM »
I would pay to see Newt debate Obama

I concur.  

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2012, 12:20:02 PM »
As an interesting aside, let's look back to 2008, the first really "open" primary for both parties.  The DNC exercised tight control on the presented candidates, it was (on the Dem side) always a two person race......Obama and Clinton.......

The Republicans are offered the first real opportunity for a landslide victory in a presidential race in decades, and instead of exercising control, the RNC shows little leadership, and we get eight candidates at the beginning.  Almost three primaries in, and we're still squabbling over four, and this lack of party discipline will inevitably give us Mitt.........just like it yielded McCain in 2008, and Dole before that.

The three "libertarians" should have never been allowed in the race to begin with.......with the right Republican candidate it wouldn't matter if any of them launched a third party challenge, the margin of victory would have been too large.

With strong party leadership, we should have gone into Iowa with Romney, Gingrich, and Santorum.  Santorum would have likely won Iowa by a larger margin, for lack of Bachman (really only a two-state candidate), Romney would have won New Hampshire, and likely Gingrich in SC.......going into Florida we would have had a real horserace, and the outcome would likely not be resolved until "Super Tuesday" as it should be, with the largest number of states and voters participating in the selection.

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Ditto.  This whole thing of having 8 Candidates is killing us.  Last time we got McCain.  :loser: and this time we will get Mitt. Not as big of a  :loser: but still a  :loser:.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2012, 12:31:04 PM »
I concur.  

True......however, please DO NOT overestimate the importance of debates in the actual general election race......that would be a fatal error.

Debates are a diminishing factor as the election nears......

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2012, 12:42:19 PM »
True......however, please DO NOT overestimate the importance of debates in the actual general election race......that would be a fatal error.

Debates are a diminishing factor as the election nears......

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With those two candidates, I don't think what they say on stage would have sway over peoples voting decisions.  I would just personally find it fascinating to hear a great discourse between the two orators.

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2012, 12:51:40 PM »
The ridiculous headline from ABC:  Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

As opposed to, you know, the guy that currently has the job. :whatever:

After backing Kennedys and Clintons for years and decades, ABC is concerned about moral character now.  Sorry, that ship has sailed.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2012, 12:52:47 PM »
The ridiculous headline from ABC: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

As opposed to, you know, the guy that currently has the job. :whatever:

Also,

Wow. A guy's ex-wife usually has wonderful things to say about her former husband!  :whatever:
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2012, 12:56:08 PM »
True......however, please DO NOT overestimate the importance of debates in the actual general election race......that would be a fatal error.

Debates are a diminishing factor as the election nears......

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I find myself in general agreement with both this and your last post and would hasten to add, RonPaul should never be allowed to run as a Republican.  

And, as Sparky has certainly found out by now, the NH primary is hardly the be all and end all it has been made out to be (ditto the Hawkey Cauc-eye).

Republican primary reforms are long overdue as is the method of financing candidates.



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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2012, 01:05:42 PM »
Absolutely........H5 for the Beck remark, he jumped the shark years ago, which is (and this comes from media insiders) why Roger Ailes with Fox dumped him, he became a liability.  As lame as the show (The Five) that was placed in his timeslot is, it's getting better ratings than Beck.

This discussion is a good example of why we conservatives will never get a "true conservative" candidate for the WH.......we're divided into factions that are even more polarized than the Dems......we can't seem to rally around a candidate that is an electable winner......all we do is divide the primary vote until the last man standing is the "moderate" that the establishment Republicans and media support.  It's happened every primary cycle for the past twenty years........
 
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Beck also has some dirt on his face with his Goldline commercials. Their mark up on gold coins is outrageous. Rep Weinner is a snake in the grass but he was right this one time.

Newt is much better than Mitt or Obama. He has done some stupid things but does not alter the fact that he has gotten more accomplished than any House Repub speaker in the last 50 years with legislation like welfare reform, lower taxes, etc.

Newt should quit the attacks on his fellow Repubs and concentrate on his own ideas to correct the mess we are in. That is what is responsible for his surge in the polls.

I also wonder how much money she is getting paid to throw dirt on this divorce. I doubt she is doing it for nothing 

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2012, 01:07:23 PM »
Apparently the bombshell is just that he wanted an open marriage and she refused.  BFD, if he was Bill Clinton he just wouldn't have bothered to ask.  No male prostitutes, no kiddie porn.

I repeat, BFD.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2012, 01:11:36 PM »
Apparently the bombshell is just that he wanted an open marriage and she refused.  BFD, if he was Bill Clinton he just wouldn't have bothered to ask.  No male prostitutes, no kiddie porn.

I repeat, BFD.

I loved this from Rush today:

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2012, 01:24:21 PM »
Apparently the bombshell is just that he wanted an open marriage and she refused.  BFD, if he was Bill Clinton he just wouldn't have bothered to ask.  No male prostitutes, no kiddie porn.

I repeat, BFD.

I concur......I suspect this might result in some backlash, after the MSM's treatment of Cain......

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 01:26:31 PM »
I concur......I suspect this might result in some backlash, after the MSM's treatment of Cain......

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My questions.  Did she come forward or did ABC seek her out and was she paid for the interview?

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 01:28:58 PM »
My questions.  Did she come forward or did ABC seek her out and was she paid for the interview?

I was wondering the same thing when I heard the news reports this morning.  I am willing to bet that ABC gave her a little some thing to "come forward."
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 02:04:52 PM »
I find myself in general agreement with both this and your last post and would hasten to add, RonPaul should never be allowed to run as a Republican.  

And, as Sparky has certainly found out by now, the NH primary is hardly the be all and end all it has been made out to be (ditto the Hawkey Cauc-eye).

Republican primary reforms are long overdue as is the method of financing candidates.





No kidding.  First off, get rid of the friggin "modified open" primary.  Close it off.  You ain't a Republican, you shouldn't be voting for them.

Although I will say this--in 2008 there was a lot, and I mean A LOT of candidate presence here.  Signs everywhere, etc.  This year?  Hell, there was a primary?  I'd be surprised if we saw 1/4 the number of signs that were here four years ago.

But on a positive note, Leland Eisenberg isn't threatening to blow anyone up with road flares this time around.
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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2012, 02:19:12 PM »
My questions.  Did she come forward or did ABC seek her out and was she paid for the interview?

I'd bet my next pension check that she received a hefty sum (maybe not from ABC, but from somewhere).......the old "woman scorned" crap only goes so far.  If a woman is going to air her dirty laundry and trash her personal pride on national TV, there had better be a payoff.

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Re: Newt's Ex Purportedly Wielding Bombshell
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2012, 02:20:08 PM »
No kidding.  First off, get rid of the friggin "modified open" primary.  Close it off.  You ain't a Republican, you shouldn't be voting for them.

Although I will say this--in 2008 there was a lot, and I mean A LOT of candidate presence here.  Signs everywhere, etc.  This year?  Hell, there was a primary?  I'd be surprised if we saw 1/4 the number of signs that were here four years ago.

But on a positive note, Leland Eisenberg isn't threatening to blow anyone up with road flares this time around.


You are exactly right on the signs.  And only one Obie sign at my polling place.  (Union Druid of course in full regalia)

The fact that NH is duty bound (or is that hell bent) to keep its first in the nation status is a problem.  January?  Really?  I say it is time to give it up and develop a regional system to broaden things out. We can't do any worse now can we.  

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