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Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« on: January 17, 2012, 03:16:16 PM »
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 Every day I marvel at how poor and middle class Republicans vote against their self-interests
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I've read the studies showing that Republicans are people who are led by fears, who love authority, who don't feel comfortable unless there is an enemy. However, there's another school of thought about why people whose very life is precariously balancing on a high wire choose to vote for those who persistently destroy American life for the poor and middle class, and ensure they never get out of the hole. It is this: that poor and middle class Republicans don't like being made to feel stupid.

The argument kinda goes like this:

Republicans talk on the same level as people who don't have a great deal of education. They don't bother people with statistics, with numbers, and they engage in a good amount of name-calling. They also use a lot of "us versus them" (them being the enemy, of course), which makes the poor and middle class Republican feel important. The argument also poses that Democrats use statistics, numbers, and tend not to name call. Democrats tend to the label groups as the enemy far less than Republicans do. As a result, poor and middle class Republicans feel less important, and less intelligent when listening to Democrats, and think of them as elitist.

But this brings me to another question:

HOW did poor and middle class Republicans come to regard education as elitist? WHEN did education become something to be despised, rather than something to be strived for? WHY did ignorance become something to be proud of? I grew up in a family within which EDUCATION AND KNOWLEDGE were things to be sought after, admired, desired, ideals, not things to be envied and to hate someone for if they employed that intelligence.

WHY NOT HERE? Why must intelligence be hidden and relegated to a lower level? Why do poor and middle class Republicans feel that lack of education is desirable?

 

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1. I think it is also a bit of this

penned most eloquently by John Dickinson: "...don't forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor."

Yes,we all want to be rich so badly we obsess about taking it from anyone that has wealth so it can be given to us.

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Sarah Ibarruri (16,953 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. Great quote, but I'm not sure I would include 'most men.' I'd say, 'stupid men' (and women) nt

So much for name calling.  :rotf:

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10. I'm not so sure. I got quite close to a right wingnut, and he really has no ability to discuss

issues. He goes mute and/or gets angry when it comes to discussing issues that involve statistics, actual dollars and cents, and numbers. 

That look is called incredulous over the the nonsense you were spouting.

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24. Yes, that was me. And what flips me out is their unwillingness to even discuss anything that

borders on facts. It's a threat to them. I can't figure out if they feel it's a trick. I do recall him saying that there's "no reason" to tell the truth to children about U.S. history, because it will make them anti-American. They adore censorship. 

You will not find one conservative that doesn`t want our history taught...not one you liar.

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13. Well, I guess that they have

every right to be as ignorant and uneducated as they wish in pursuit of their "liberty" to be serfs to the economic royalists. Ignorant can be fixed, but stupid is forever. The question remains why these people are, in economic terms, paying arsonists to burn down their houses.

I came from a working class background and the value of education was pounded into my head by both of my parents from a very young age. Those who don't value education are, IMO, beneath contempt.

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6. Yes, but in all honesty, they're cutting off their nose to spite their face. A sign of stupidity.

Psychological identification by someone, that will cause that same person's lifestyle (and that of his/her family to suffer), particularly when it's psychological identification with entities that seek to do harm to the suffering, is just frikkin' stupid.

 

Why do the poor and urban minorities vote democrat?

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15. Why...What are the reasons? who noes these daze;...me thinks its laziness coupled with

congentital traits....

There has to be reasons for this anamoly

 

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31. They're either self interests or they're not

They may be voting against your interpretation of what their self interests should be based on criteria that you defined, but then that's just them voting against your self interests.

A rare moment of clarity.

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 03:22:23 PM »
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24. Yes, that was me. And what flips me out is their unwillingness to even discuss anything that borders on facts.

...and yet, liberals can join here AS liberals and not be banned. One mere mention of being a conservative at the DUmp and you mental midgets are alerting your asses off. We want history taught, ACCURATE history. You know, like how black people were more independent when they voted Republican.

 
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They adore censorship.  

Are you f'n retarded? Who's the ones boycotting Fox? Who boycotted Glen Beck? Who is it that wants conservatives taken off the airwaves? Who is it that shouts down Ann Coulter? Who is it that hides conservative books in book stores like a bunch of f'n 5 year old brats? What's the biggest lockstep, group think mental institution in the nation? I'll give you a hint, you're posting on it.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 03:27:16 PM »
It's funny how every perjorative descriptor she used could just as easily be applied to Democrats, Regressives, Liberals, et al., and not lose one iota of meaning...improve it, actually.

The basic conceptual problem is that the 'Facts' and 'Statistics' she mentions are from Democrat talking points, not objective reality, and are selected, massaged, and slanted from the git-go by their own little Ministry of Truth, and everyone but the Dems realizes it.  She doesn't realize the reason nobody will argue with them when they whip out those points is that nobody but other Dems are willing to buy the package and lend any credence to the supposed facts and stats.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 03:36:11 PM »
My son has had a total of 5 years of college yet he's a MOONBAT just like Sarah.  Matter of fact, he brought home a few Sarah's in his day.  I banned them from my house and have banned him too.

Education doesn't make you smart.  Sometimes it makes you like Sarah.

Unlike his father, my son has no work ethic, something I've noticed runs rampant amongst DUmmies therefore he shall always struggle and be poor.

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 03:39:19 PM »
Ah, the old phrase, "The product of educating an idiot is an educated idiot."

I received my education while in the military, and finished up when got out. I wudn't havin' none of that librul indoctrination. ESPECIALLY when I'd hear those liberal f***s at Augusta State say something about the military. My political science classes, about as worthless as Sociology, were quite entertaining.  :evillaugh:
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There's a reason why patriotism is considered a conservative value. Watch a Tea Party rally and you'll see people proudly raising the American flag and showing pride in U.S. heroes such as Thomas Jefferson. Watch an OWS rally and you'll see people burning the American flag while showing pride in communist heroes such as Che Guevera. --Bob, from some news site

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 04:01:50 PM »
She's so dumb and so DOTY worthy, I hope y'all are proud of yourselves for not voting for her. :argh:
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2012, 04:04:27 PM »
When ever a lib claims that some group of people are voting against their self-interests, what they really mean is that they are voting against liberal interests.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 04:12:36 PM »
THE DUMMIES ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT...... spot on about the DUmbass looking back at them from the bathroom mirror.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 04:21:21 PM »
I'll hand it to her..........................most inane post ever.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2012, 04:30:39 PM »
How does it benefit me, my family and society by voting for politicians who, for nefarious purposes, want everyone to be dependent on Government?
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2012, 04:40:44 PM »
How does it benefit me, my family and society by voting for politicians who, for nefarious purposes, want everyone to be dependent on Government?

Won't benefit you and your family but it gets the DUmmie offspring out of the DUmmies basement....welfare, foodstamps, section 8, all that, you know.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2012, 04:47:59 PM »
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HOW did poor and middle class Republicans come to regard education as elitist? When so called educated people started to think that they knew everything, I'm sorry but a degree in womyn's studies does not make one an expert on anything
WHEN did education become something to be despised, rather than something to be strived for? WHY did ignorance become something to be proud of? I grew up in a family within which EDUCATION AND KNOWLEDGE were things to be sought after, admired, desired, ideals, not things to be envied and to hate someone for if they employed that intelligence.
A better question is, when did hard work and success become something to be despised, rather than something to to be strived for. Why did laziness become something to be proud of? I grew up in a family which hard work, and success was to be sought after, desired, not something to be hated for

 

Like most liberals, Sarah you have no idea what we are talking about when we chastise educated people, it's not the fact that they went to college, it's the fact that they think just because they could regurgitate the right answers on enough tests, that they think they know everything.

If any of you goons ever got a degree that you actually could get a job with, you would realize that 99% of what you learn about that profession will come after you get the degree. Most knowledge throughout our lives comes from life and our experiences, not from a class room.

This notion that we be stoopid cuz we don't have degrees in basket weaving is insane. The fact that you think you can asses what our best interests are, is laughable at best, and arrogant as hell at worst.

Just who the hell do you and any of you freaks think you are to tell us what our interests are anyway? Only the individual can know what the hell is in his or her best interests.





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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2012, 04:52:00 PM »
...and yet, liberals can join here AS liberals and not be banned. One mere mention of being a conservative at the DUmp and you mental midgets are alerting your asses off. We want history taught, ACCURATE history. You know, like how black people were more independent when they voted Republican.

 
Are you f'n retarded? Who's the ones boycotting Fox? Who boycotted Glen Beck? Who is it that wants conservatives taken off the airwaves? Who is it that shouts down Ann Coulter? Who is it that hides conservative books in book stores like a bunch of f'n 5 year old brats? What's the biggest lockstep, group think mental institution in the nation? I'll give you a hint, you're posting on it.

Here's another one: Who are the ones who initiated a recall of our awesome Governer before the man even set foot in office???

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2012, 05:16:04 PM »
The Projectionists Union is coming looking for ten years of back dues.

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 12:56:32 AM »
Narssisistic twits.

How is limiting my health care options in my best interest? Or forcing me to take what they think is good enough? How is taxing the hell out of people I want a job from or people I want to sell a good or service to helping me? Or having to beg some dumbass gov worker to fix a problem they caused or to give me a benifit that I have to apply for because they messed up the job market. How is that  good for my dignaty? How helpful is it for them to give every idiot a school loan and making the cost of even a trade school rival that of a starter home? Don't get me started on how super helpful they were in makng sure every one owns a home.

And please stop claiming you use facts and stats when speaking. All I ever hear is rehashed jr high appeals to ( some unknown ) athority or emotion. You all dont even bring up pie charts on your cell phones. "Atleast Obama is doing something!" is not a argument but that is pretty much all I get. I used to try to politlly engage but I would get cut off in mid sentance and a new isue is tossed out.

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 05:05:59 AM »
Silly, silly Sarah.

Republicans DO NOT vote against OUR best interests.

We vote against YOUR best interests.

You have NO idea what OUR interests are, because you have no idea what FREEDOM is like.  The only freedoms DUmmies know how to exercise are the freedom to be WRONG, and the freedom to be STUPID!

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 05:24:41 AM »
Yep, "repukes" are the name callers.  Pres. BushMcChimpyHitler got that name from the "tolerant" party.  The "educated" party is the one that swears unborn humans are "bumps" or "lumps of cells" until they magically appear from the womb looking like a baby.  The party that "votes for their own interests" is the party that votes themselves more and more taxpayer money because they just can't stand the thought of someone keeping the money he or she earns.

I love that confusion between educated and having a college degree.   ::)  A degree in something practical is nice, it's a good way to get a decent job (but you still have to lay off the drugs and drink to keep it, Sarah.)  However, there is no degree that causes you to become "educated."  All a degree does is guarantee you can regurgitate what the teacher wants you to know.  Education usually comes from everything else.  The only people that never attain any real education are those that  :stoner:.   Even the "dumbest" "uneducated" hillbilly hick, redneck or poor farmer has all kind of education Sarah can't even imagine.

On the other hand, most of the "highly educated" in this world would be totally lost if handed a couple knives and told to skin a critter, build a fire, and cook supper.  They stand by their stalled car, staring at the motor, hoping one of those "uneducated" repukes will stop by and get it started it for them.  They call AAA when they have a flat tire.  They call a handyman when something minor breaks around the house, and a plumber when they clog the toilet.  (You know that handymen and plumbers are awful likely to be "uneducated repukes.")  

In fact, if it weren't for the millions of "uneducated repukes" that work and pay taxes, the colleges would go broke, the DUmmies wouldn't have any tax dollars to whine after, and Sarah might have to get enough of a real education to be able to do something practical.   :rotf:


Oh, and just on a personal note, my "uneducated repuke" husband has 2 Masters and a Doctorate of Education, and is currently working on a doctorate in religious studies.  Somehow, I'll bet that doesn't measure up to Sarah's idea of "educated."   :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 07:40:13 AM »
All that Sarah Imaboobie says, with her post, is this:

Common sense is the least common thing in the world.  And the DUmb****s don't have it.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 08:06:32 AM »
All that Sarah Imaboobie says, with her post, is this:

Common sense is the least common thing in the world.  And the DUmb****s don't have it.

Or as we say in the red states, "Common sense isn't".
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
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 Every day I marvel at how poor and middle class Republicans vote against their self-interests
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I've read the studies showing that Republicans are people who are led by fears, who love authority, who don't feel comfortable unless there is an enemy. However, there's another school of thought about why people whose very life is precariously balancing on a high wire choose to vote for those who persistently destroy American life for the poor and middle class, and ensure they never get out of the hole. It is this: that poor and middle class Republicans don't like being made to feel stupid.

The argument kinda goes like this:

Republicans talk on the same level as people who don't have a great deal of education. They don't bother people with statistics, with numbers, and they engage in a good amount of name-calling. They also use a lot of "us versus them" (them being the enemy, of course), which makes the poor and middle class Republican feel important. The argument also poses that Democrats use statistics, numbers, and tend not to name call. Democrats tend to the label groups as the enemy far less than Republicans do. As a result, poor and middle class Republicans feel less important, and less intelligent when listening to Democrats, and think of them as elitist.

But this brings me to another question:

HOW did poor and middle class Republicans come to regard education as elitist? WHEN did education become something to be despised, rather than something to be strived for? WHY did ignorance become something to be proud of? I grew up in a family within which EDUCATION AND KNOWLEDGE were things to be sought after, admired, desired, ideals, not things to be envied and to hate someone for if they employed that intelligence.

WHY NOT HERE? Why must intelligence be hidden and relegated to a lower level? Why do poor and middle class Republicans feel that lack of education is desirable?

Dear Sarah,

Thank you for your concern. I'm quite well educated and even love to read books with big words! You can see the whole panoply of human behavior in literature. It allows me the opportunity to practice pop psychology without bothering with a useless liberal arts PhD. A doctor of literature? Really? Oh, but I did get a scholarship from the feminist National League of American Pen Women for a paper on Faulkner's use of fire as an expression of pathos & passion so I can bullshit with the best of them. Besides, if I got too much education I probably wouldn't remember to pretend to be suitably vapid when I'm around liberals. Lord knows, the slightest disturbance of your stereotypes is like a disturbance in the force...it can pretty much screw up your whole universe and your heads would explode. And conservatives would be left to clean up your mess...again! However, I think literature can teach us a lot about the liberal mind. Ironic, since most authors are liberal bordering on Marxist (they can afford to be), but then the best literature is rife with unintended outcomes.

Anyway, I was rereading Absalom, Absalom last night and I got to thinking how representative the character of Wash Jones is to the average liberal. Wash is a squatter and a lazy one to boot, living off the largess of Colonel Sutpen. The colonel is a mean old coot, but like your average rich Democrat politician tolerates Wash because he worships at his feet and all he has to do is throw Wash an occasional bone. Not enough to thrive, of course. But just enough to easily led to believe his overlord has his best interest at heart. So when the dirty old man starts messing with his 16 year old granddaughter, Wash simply looks the other way. Wash's small comfort become more important than his own flesh and blood. Kinda like thinking it's okay to saddle your children and grandchildren with massive debt because you believe you're entitled to things you should get on your own through hard work. And when you're dependent on someone else, you adopt whatever twisted moral code they make you live by. Of course, just like DUmmies tell themselves they're still important, Wash pretends he's been a part of the exciting life Colonel Sutpen has lived. As the pathetic DUm...uh...Wash tells himself, "Maybe I am not as big as he is and maybe I did not do any of the galloping. But at least I was drug along where he went."

So when grandaughter Millie gets pregnant Wash thinks he'll finally make it to the big house. All his worshipping dependence has paid off. Except there's a catch. There always is. Sutpen wants a son and Millie gives birth to a daughter. Well, like all dependent white trash who've outlived their usefulness, the colonel brushes her aside. He says it's too bad she wasn't a mare because he could at least give her a decent stable in the barn. Wash comes unglued, kills the Colonel, his granddaughter and her baby. But before he kills Colonel Sutpen he tells him,  "You know I never. You know I never expected or asked or wanted nothing from any living man but what I expected from you. And I never asked that. I didn't think hit would need: I just said to myself I don't need to." Except he did. He always had his hand out. Didn't even know how to take care of himself anymore. Sort of reminds me of voting against your own interest. When you vote for someone to give you things you neither earned nor worked for you're also voting for them to control your life. What they give they can take away or put such a high price on that it's nothing more than crumbs. Frankly, I'd just as soon not give them the chance to knock up my granddaughter.

But I will try harder to be a brainiac like you, Sarah. Because evidently poor and middle class democrats are smarter than poor and middle class conservatives. I think it has to do with the fact that I mostly grew up with my mother & stepfather in an upper middle class neighborhood full of democrats who, despite their cushy surroundings thought they were entitled to more. My stepfather actually says, "vote for the guy who promises to give you the most stuff". It never mattered whether the "stuff" was actually given, just that someone promised. Well, no one can deliver such lofty handouts. Conservatives just aren't willing to let themselves be fooled by pretty words. Maybe that's one of the things that makes you smarter. Being better educated and all it's easier for you to believe in all those big pretty words. I think as I gained more common sense as I got older, I lost some of that special nuance gene you get from all that book larnin'.

Well, that's about all the intellectualizing my poor brain can stand so I'm heading back to my nice little world of name calling and "us versus them" Sarah, you useless Marxist, elitist bitch!

Cindie
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 01:31:59 AM »
Silly, silly Sarah.

Republicans DO NOT vote against OUR best interests.

We vote against YOUR best interests.

You have NO idea what OUR interests are, because you have no idea what FREEDOM is like.  The only freedoms DUmmies know how to exercise are the freedom to be WRONG, and the freedom to be STUPID!

Both have been exercised to the point of exhaustion!
Silly, silly Sarah, can not understand that.
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2012, 07:11:16 AM »
Dear Sarah,

Thank you for your concern. I'm quite well educated and even love to read books with big words! You can see the whole panoply of human behavior in literature. It allows me the opportunity to practice pop psychology without bothering with a useless liberal arts PhD. A doctor of literature? Really? Oh, but I did get a scholarship from the feminist National League of American Pen Women for a paper on Faulkner's use of fire as an expression of pathos & passion so I can bullshit with the best of them. Besides, if I got too much education I probably wouldn't remember to pretend to be suitably vapid when I'm around liberals. Lord knows, the slightest disturbance of your stereotypes is like a disturbance in the force...it can pretty much screw up your whole universe and your heads would explode. And conservatives would be left to clean up your mess...again! However, I think literature can teach us a lot about the liberal mind. Ironic, since most authors are liberal bordering on Marxist (they can afford to be), but then the best literature is rife with unintended outcomes.

Anyway, I was rereading Absalom, Absalom last night and I got to thinking how representative the character of Wash Jones is to the average liberal. Wash is a squatter and a lazy one to boot, living off the largess of Colonel Sutpen. The colonel is a mean old coot, but like your average rich Democrat politician tolerates Wash because he worships at his feet and all he has to do is throw Wash an occasional bone. Not enough to thrive, of course. But just enough to easily led to believe his overlord has his best interest at heart. So when the dirty old man starts messing with his 16 year old granddaughter, Wash simply looks the other way. Wash's small comfort become more important than his own flesh and blood. Kinda like thinking it's okay to saddle your children and grandchildren with massive debt because you believe you're entitled to things you should get on your own through hard work. And when you're dependent on someone else, you adopt whatever twisted moral code they make you live by. Of course, just like DUmmies tell themselves they're still important, Wash pretends he's been a part of the exciting life Colonel Sutpen has lived. As the pathetic DUm...uh...Wash tells himself, "Maybe I am not as big as he is and maybe I did not do any of the galloping. But at least I was drug along where he went."

So when grandaughter Millie gets pregnant Wash thinks he'll finally make it to the big house. All his worshipping dependence has paid off. Except there's a catch. There always is. Sutpen wants a son and Millie gives birth to a daughter. Well, like all dependent white trash who've outlived their usefulness, the colonel brushes her aside. He says it's too bad she wasn't a mare because he could at least give her a decent stable in the barn. Wash comes unglued, kills the Colonel, his granddaughter and her baby. But before he kills Colonel Sutpen he tells him,  "You know I never. You know I never expected or asked or wanted nothing from any living man but what I expected from you. And I never asked that. I didn't think hit would need: I just said to myself I don't need to." Except he did. He always had his hand out. Didn't even know how to take care of himself anymore. Sort of reminds me of voting against your own interest. When you vote for someone to give you things you neither earned nor worked for you're also voting for them to control your life. What they give they can take away or put such a high price on that it's nothing more than crumbs. Frankly, I'd just as soon not give them the chance to knock up my granddaughter.

But I will try harder to be a brainiac like you, Sarah. Because evidently poor and middle class democrats are smarter than poor and middle class conservatives. I think it has to do with the fact that I mostly grew up with my mother & stepfather in an upper middle class neighborhood full of democrats who, despite their cushy surroundings thought they were entitled to more. My stepfather actually says, "vote for the guy who promises to give you the most stuff". It never mattered whether the "stuff" was actually given, just that someone promised. Well, no one can deliver such lofty handouts. Conservatives just aren't willing to let themselves be fooled by pretty words. Maybe that's one of the things that makes you smarter. Being better educated and all it's easier for you to believe in all those big pretty words. I think as I gained more common sense as I got older, I lost some of that special nuance gene you get from all that book larnin'.

Well, that's about all the intellectualizing my poor brain can stand so I'm heading back to my nice little world of name calling and "us versus them" Sarah, you useless Marxist, elitist bitch!

Cindie

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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 07:31:39 AM »
On that whole education thang:

http://ironshrink.com/2010/04/are-liberals-more-intelligent-than-conservatives-another-broken-study-says-it-is-so/


Seems libs can ONLY thrive after conservative Capitalists build the system for which they can thrive. In a feudal system, or anything similar, they'd starve to death. When it's dog eat dog, there's just not many people willing to barter their goods for your sociology skillz. Conservatives and libertarians tend to pursue degrees in hard sciences like medicine, engineering, business, etc. Liberals prefer the "soft" sciences that don't mean shit unless things are going extremely well and people are so rich and gluttonous that they'd throw their money at everything, AA studies, "womyn" studies, Sociology, etc. How many people in Cuba, Venezuela, the former USSR, or China do you think has degrees in shit like that? This is why they claim they're so much "intelligenter", because they can't make it with a bachelor's in shit like that so they continue wasting money, racking up tens of thousands of dollars in loans to reach that master's or PhD level so you'll finally come to appreciate how supersmart they are....all a futile attempt at improving their self-worth. These are your prototypical "look at me! look at me!" participation trophy kids.


....and, now read this with me lurkers, if the shit in this nation ever reboots like you fools claim you want, I.e. our society collapses, you're the Chihuahuas in the pack of Pitbulls. Have fun trying to survive with nothing to barter but studies in "womyn".
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 07:34:30 AM »

 Oh, but I did get a scholarship from the feminist National League of American Pen Women for a paper on Faulkner's use of fire as an expression of pathos & passion so I can bullshit with the best of them.

 

I loved that line...BS is what I'm thinking when I hear some art critic describing some works of modern art.... :lmao:...they try to look down their nose and sound so ...so ...holier than thou, sophisticated, elitist.... :lmao:...and I'm thinking, "you are so full of it."... :lmao:
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Re: Sarah Ibarruri knows why we vote against our interests.
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 08:11:42 AM »
I loved that line...BS is what I'm thinking when I hear some art critic describing some works of modern art.... :lmao:...they try to look down their nose and sound so ...so ...holier than thou, sophisticated, elitist.... :lmao:...and I'm thinking, "you are so full of it."... :lmao:

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