DUmmies discuss prison.

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002172148

Bozita (25,047 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore


 Stop the School-to-Prison Pipeline - Truthout
Stop the School-to-Prison Pipeline
Sunday 15 January 2012
by: Staff, Rethinking Schools | News Analysis

“Every man in my family has been locked up. Most days I feel like it doesn’t matter what I do, how hard I try - that’s my fate, too.”
-11th-grade African American student, Berkeley, California

This young man isn’t being cynical or melodramatic; he’s articulating a terrifying reality for many of the children and youth sitting in our classrooms—a reality that is often invisible or misunderstood. Some have seen the growing numbers of security guards and police in our schools as unfortunate but necessary responses to the behavior of children from poor, crime-ridden neighborhoods. But what if something more ominous is happening? What if many of our students—particularly our African American, Latina/o, Native American, and Southeast Asian children—are being channeled toward prison and a lifetime of second-class status?

We believe that this is the case, and there is ample evidence to support that claim. What has come to be called the “school-to-prison pipeline” is turning too many schools into pathways to incarceration rather than opportunity. This trend has extraordinary implications for teachers and education activists. It affects everything from what we teach to how we build community in our classrooms, how we deal with conflicts with and among our students, how we build coalitions, and what demands we see as central to the fight for social justice education.

What Is the School-to-Prison Pipeline?

The school-to-prison pipeline begins in deep social and economic inequalities, and has taken root in the historic shortcomings of schooling in this country. The civil and human rights movements of the 1960s and ’70s spurred an effort to “rethink schools” to make them responsive to the needs of all students, their families, and communities. This rethinking included collaborative learning environments, multicultural curriculum, student-centered, experiential pedagogy—we were aiming for education as liberation. The back-to-basics backlash against that struggle has been more rigid enforcement of ever more alienating curriculum.

The “zero tolerance” policies that today are the most extreme form of this punishment paradigm were originally written for the war on drugs in the early 1980s, and later applied to schools. As Annette Fuentes explains, the resulting extraordinary rates of suspension and expulsion are linked nationally to increasing police presence, checkpoints, and surveillance inside schools.

more...
http://www.truth-out.org/stop-school-prison-pipeline/1326636604
 

Here is a clue,don`t break the law.
See how simple that is.

EFerrari (158,833 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. We never had security or surveillance at my high school

until the school board closed the other high school "across the tracks". Then, the fence went up around the school and all of a sudden, there was armed security at the entrances. 

Racist

Honeycombe8 (8,866 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I don't buy this.

This theory takes the personal choice out of the pipeline. It is within that first young man's power not to go to prison. The school has rules. The students must obey the rules. The zero tolerance thing can get ridiculous, but you don't need police in the school for that to come into play. The schools turn in kids under zero tolerance, even white elementary school kids.

There are abuses and extremes in everything. Those should be rooted out. But police or security in a high-crime school are necessary, I would think, for the safety of everyone. As long as a student, and teacher, abides by the rules, there should be no problem. No pipeline to prison. In fact, most kids don't end up in prison, even those from the high-crime schools.

It does kids no favor to relieve them from personal responsibility for their actions.

 

Now you went and did it.

izquierdista (10,735 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. You just keep thinking that....

....and then when it is your turn to be locked up, there will be no one to speak up for you. 

Honeycombe8 (8,866 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. Keep telling kids it's not their fault, when they've done something wrong...

and you end up with a kid in prison, surprised he was finally held accountable for his behavior.

I will not end up in prison because I've broken the law. That's because I don't break the law. I'm the kind of person who would accept the consequences for my actions, anyway, if I did break the law. I wouldn't blame the policeman who arrested me. You have to do something pretty severe to end up in prison....and do it more than once. That's not a conspiracy against someone. That's someone who thinks the law doesn't apply to him.

saras (4,677 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

9. So how do YOU avoid being charged for "driving while black"?

 

Occulus (18,595 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

13. "It is within that first young man's power not to go to prison."

This is not ever the case for any of us.

Odin2005 (40,755 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. Private Prison Labor = The New Slavery.

T S Justly (550 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

12. The Civil Rights Era is over, if there ever was one. K&R (nt)

 

[Evil_Conservative]

Stop breaking the law.  You wouldn't go to prison.... I never worried about going to prison when I was in high school.

[67 Rover]

Bozita (25,047 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore


 Stop the School-to-Prison Pipeline - Truthout
Stop the School-to-Prison Pipeline
Sunday 15 January 2012
by: Staff, Rethinking Schools | News Analysis

“Every man in my family has been locked up. Most days I feel like it doesn’t matter what I do, how hard I try - that’s my fate, too.”
-11th-grade African American student, Berkeley, California

This young man isn’t being cynical or melodramatic; he’s articulating a terrifying reality for many of the children and youth sitting in our classrooms—a reality that is often invisible or misunderstood. Some have seen the growing numbers of security guards and police in our schools as unfortunate but necessary responses to the behavior of children from poor, crime-ridden neighborhoods. But what if something more ominous is happening? What if many of our students—particularly our African American, Latina/o, Native American, and Southeast Asian children—are being channeled toward prison and a lifetime of second-class status?

We believe that this is the case, and there is ample evidence to support that claim. What has come to be called the “school-to-prison pipeline” is turning too many schools into pathways to incarceration rather than opportunity. This trend has extraordinary implications for teachers and education activists. It affects everything from what we teach to how we build community in our classrooms, how we deal with conflicts with and among our students, how we build coalitions, and what demands we see as central to the fight for social justice education.

What Is the School-to-Prison Pipeline?

The school-to-prison pipeline begins in deep social and economic inequalities, and has taken root in the historic shortcomings of schooling in this country. The civil and human rights movements of the 1960s and ’70s spurred an effort to “rethink schools” to make them responsive to the needs of all students, their families, and communities. This rethinking included collaborative learning environments, multicultural curriculum, student-centered, experiential pedagogy—we were aiming for education as liberation. The back-to-basics backlash against that struggle has been more rigid enforcement of ever more alienating curriculum.

The “zero tolerance” policies that today are the most extreme form of this punishment paradigm were originally written for the war on drugs in the early 1980s, and later applied to schools. As Annette Fuentes explains, the resulting extraordinary rates of suspension and expulsion are linked nationally to increasing police presence, checkpoints, and surveillance inside schools.

more...
http://www.truth-out.org/...rison-pipeline/1326636604
 

Any relation to Daisy 

[Tucker]

Liberals are as much to blame, if not more so, for their "If it feels good, do it" lifestyle.

If the authorities tell you that drugs are illegal and you will go to prison for possession with intent,  don't bitch about it when you get thrown in prison for drugs.

If you try and occupy property that legally belongs to someone else,  don't bitch about it when you get thrown in prison for conversion.

If you think that there should be a redistribution of wealth and try and take some of which I worked for, don't bitch about it when you get shot. If you recover, don't bitch about it when you get thrown in prison for attempted robbery.

[NHSparky]

Holy crap!  Actions have consequences?  Who knew???

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Well, it would better if the cops would stop deciding who to arrest by pure randomness...  Oh wait?  They don't?  You actually have to get caught after committing a crime in order to go to jail?  Well, then that's YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT!

[Ballygrl]

I read a story this morning about a Grandmother beaten up at a Chuck E Cheese in Michigan, the reason she was beaten up? she asked a table full of people to clean up their language because there were kids around. People today do what they want to do, they were never told there are consequences to their behavior.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Holy crap!  Actions have consequences?  Who knew???

 

Holy shit!!!  I'm gonna have to rethink some things, BRB!

 

[Ogre]

Holy crap!  Actions have consequences?  Who knew???

Wait, what?  You mean I can't do what I want without having the man put it to me? DU/Mode Off

[GOBUCKS]

How to NOT get your ass kicked by the po-lice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

[Ballygrl]

How to NOT get your ass kicked by the po-lice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

[Evil_Conservative]

Holy shit!!!  I'm gonna have to rethink some things, BRB!

 

You're right.

I was going to rob a few banks today, but if I might go to prison for it.... I don't know.

[sybilll]

How to NOT get your ass kicked by the po-lice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

[JohnnyReb]

Spare the rod and spoil the child..........HELL! they aren't any children any more, just rotten little bastards.

[I_B_Perky]

How to NOT get your ass kicked by the po-lice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

 

[Celtic Rose]

Going to prison has never been a major concern of mine.  I have a fairly good idea of what sort of actions have prison as a consequence, and have managed to avoid them 

[AprilRazz]

Pammy is strangely silent on this one.

[jtyangel]

Going to prison has never been a major concern of mine.  I have a fairly good idea of what sort of actions have prison as a consequence, and have managed to avoid them 

You mean you have no obvious outward attritute that isn't supposed to matter for any other facet of your life, but when it comes to prison it's the only reason you are there? 

[GOBUCKS]

Going to prison has never been a major concern of mine.  I have a fairly good idea of what sort of actions have prison as a consequence, and have managed to avoid them 

Prison is a huge issue for DUmmies because so many of them are junkies.

They don't worry as much about incarceration as they do about withdrawal.

[AprilRazz]

Still nothing from Pammy and the other teachers.

[FlaGator]

That article is the biggest bunch of horse hockey I've read in a long time.

[jukin]

This is what the "ghetto culture" espoused by the black radicals of the 60s and not integrating into American society does.

It's not all personal choice. If you are a black child trying to do well in school and live an American lifestyle you get teased, put down, and beaten. If you are a grown adult and not gone the race hustler road to riches you get called an Uncle Tom, Oreo, etc to make sure those coming up learn the proper way in the black liberal culture.

[Tucker]

Still nothing from Pammy and the other teachers.

Proud2B is the one who had a son in prison. Liberalism at its finest.

[Mike220]

Going to prison has never been a major concern of mine.  I have a fairly good idea of what sort of actions have prison as a consequence, and have managed to avoid them 

I never thought I would go to prison myself, but I'm going Thursday afternoon. Granted, it's for a job interview with the Sheriffs Dept...

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

“Every man in my family has been locked up. Most days I feel like it doesn’t matter what I do, how hard I try - that’s my fate, too.”
-11th-grade African American student, Berkeley, California

Wow.

Berkley CA is a real hotbed of anti-black racism.

The school-to-prison pipeline begins in deep social and economic inequalities, and has taken root in the historic shortcomings of schooling in this country. The civil and human rights movements of the 1960s and ’70s spurred an effort to “rethink schools” to make them responsive to the needs of all students, their families, and communities. This rethinking included collaborative learning environments, multicultural curriculum, student-centered, experiential pedagogy—we were aiming for education as liberation. The back-to-basics backlash against that struggle has been more rigid enforcement of ever more alienating curriculum.

Someone please explain to me how studying arithmetic, literature and civics instead of Tibetan lesbian navel gazing is a pipeline to prison.