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Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« on: May 05, 2008, 10:08:38 PM »
Islam watchers blogged all weekend about news that a secret archive of ancient Islamic texts had surfaced after 60 years of suppression. Andrew Higgins' Wall Street Journal report that the photographic record of Koranic manuscripts, supposedly destroyed during World War II but occulted by a scholar of alleged Nazi sympathies, reads like a conflation of the Da Vinci Code with Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.

The Da Vinci Code offered a silly fantasy in which Opus Dei, homicidal monks and twisted billionaires chased after proof that Christianity is a hoax. But the story of the photographic archive of

the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, now ensconced in a Berlin vault, is a case of life imitating truly dreadful art. It even has Nazis. "I hate those guys!" as Indiana Jones said.

No one is going to produce proof that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave three days after the Crucifixion, of course. Humankind will choose to believe or not that God revealed Himself in this fashion. But Islam stands at risk of a Da Vinci Code effect, for in Islam, God's self-revelation took the form not of the Exodus, nor the revelation at Mount Sinai, nor the Resurrection, but rather a book, namely the Koran. The Encyclopaedia of Islam (1982) observes, "The closest analogue in Christian belief to the role of the Koran in Muslim belief is not the Bible, but Christ." The Koran alone is the revelatory event in Islam.

What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources? That would be the precise equivalent of proving that the Jesus Christ of the Gospels really was a composite of several individuals, some of whom lived a century or two apart.

It has long been known that variant copies of the Koran exist, including some found in 1972 in a paper grave at Sa'na in Yemen, the subject of a cover story in the January 1999 Atlantic Monthly. Before the Yemeni authorities shut the door to Western scholars, two German academics, Gerhard R Puin and H C Graf von Bothmer, made 35,000 microfilm copies, which remain at the University of the Saarland. Many scholars believe that the German archive, which includes photocopies of manuscripts as old as 700 AD, will provide more evidence of variation in the Koran.

The history of the archive reads like an Islamic version of the Da Vinci Code. It is not clear why its existence was occulted for sixty years, or why it has come to light now, or when scholars will have free access to it. Higgins' account begins,
On the night of April 24, 1944, British air force bombers hammered a former Jesuit college here housing the Bavarian Academy of Science. The 16th-century building crumpled in the inferno. Among the treasures lost, later lamented Anton Spitaler, an Arabic scholar at the academy, was a unique photo archive of ancient manuscripts of the Koran.

The 450 rolls of film had been assembled before the war for a bold venture: a study of the evolution of the Koran, the text Muslims view as the verbatim transcript of God's word. The wartime destruction made the project "outright impossible", Mr Spitaler wrote in the 1970s.

Mr Spitaler was lying. The cache of photos survived, and he was sitting on it all along. The truth is only now dribbling out to scholars - and a Koran research project buried for more than 60 years has risen from the grave. Why Spitaler concealed the archive is unknown, but Koranic critics who challenge the received Muslim account suspect his motives. Higgins reports, snip
 
 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA15Ak03.html

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Re: Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2008, 05:59:37 AM »
They have the notes from Mohammed's writers' group meetings?

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Re: Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2008, 06:15:54 AM »
If there is much truth to this, I see many years of some very nasty times coming.

We've seen how violent Muslims can get over charicatures of Mohammed.  How will they react if given proof that their belief is wrong?
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Re: Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 07:21:31 AM »
All the original Korans, many copied onto skins and bones, were collected and destroyed by caliph (?), leaving only the one Muslims follow today. No telling what was changed, added, left out to suit the Muslim marauders of that time.

...and the supposedly intelligent liberal elite who hate all forms of religion want to protect and further the cause of Islam. Why? The only answer I can come up with is that it is the tool they will use to conquer the world and bring about their wonderful communist society 
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Re: Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2008, 10:49:41 AM »
As Hitler pointed out many times, "Islam is the ideal religion for those who want to dominate the world,”

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Re: Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2008, 11:11:25 AM »
If there is much truth to this, I see many years of some very nasty times coming.

We've seen how violent Muslims can get over charicatures of Mohammed.  How will they react if given proof that their belief is wrong?

They will just claim it is a western plot and of no truth.  For them to protest would mean it has some validity.

I suspect the mullahs will just ignore it, so the ignorant muslim populace will never know about it.
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