Arizona schools' ethnic studies program ruled illegal

[AprilRazz]

New bonfire over in breaking news. But this could have potential once nads the magnificent and others get a hold of it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101411243

PHOENIX—An administrative law judge ruled on Tuesday that a Tucson school district's ethnic studies program violates state law, agreeing with the findings of Arizona's public schools chief.

Judge Lewis Kowal's ruling marked a defeat for the Tucson Unified School District, which appealed the findings issued in June by Superintendent of Public Instruction John Huppenthal.

Kowal's ruling, first reported by The Arizona Daily Star, said the district's Mexican-American Studies program violated state law by having one or more classes designed primarily for one ethnic group, promoting racial resentment and advocating ethnic solidarity instead of treating students as individuals.

The judge, who found grounds to withhold 10 percent of the district's monthly state aid until it comes into compliance, said the law permits the objective instruction about the oppression of people that may result in racial resentment or ethnic solidarity.

Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/education/k_12/articles/2011/12/27/ariz_schools_ethnic_studies_program_ruled_illegal

[Carl]

Effen leftists want the Balkanization of America so they can promise to be the sugar daddy to each and every group.

[JohnnyReb]

Effen leftists want the Balkanization of America so they can promise to be the sugar daddy to each and every group.

Hey, if the democrats didn't pool all the perverts, deadbeats, minorities and misfits together, there would be no democrat party.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Hey, if the democrats didn't pool all the perverts, deadbeats, minorities and misfits together, there would be no democrat party.

+1.

[vesta111]

+1.

Wondering how they handle Foreign language studies. 

Does this mean if a child's mother language spoken in the home cannot take this class and ace it? No classes for those that all ready speak, read and write the language.

   Then why do English speaking kids have to take their mother tongue as a subject, you may remember English as a subject in school.  Dangling participles and conjunctive verbs-------what ever that has to do with real life.

What to do with children that are Asian, father Chinese, mother Lao and they speak read and write English. Trio lingual and they have to learn another language????

Gee I remember taking English classes when I could read and write the mother tongue, ---now a days English is considered a foreign language to inner school kids.



 

[Ballygrl]

I think that's an awesome decision by the Judge.

[jukin]

Can anyone imagine the size of the shit storm if there were classes that catered to the white race? The fact that all of modern society was invented by the white race. Oh my!

[vesta111]

Can anyone imagine the size of the shit storm if there were classes that catered to the white race? The fact that all of modern society was invented by the white race. Oh my!

We have these classes, American history and World history.

So who but the white race founded America and welcomed all aboard from non white races ????

What other country  teaches the value of our immigrants that  helped build their country.?

Name one country that holds high the value of its past slaves, gives them great honor for their accomplishments to build up their country.

It was not by design that America was founded on Whites, just who got here first.  Hell of a tempest, the Spanish got to the west coast, the French to  the south middle America., the English to the eastern areas.

One cannot blame the Whites for buying land from the Europeans the Spanish and French that put it up for sale,  We laughed at a white man named Seward for his folly for buying Alaska from the Russians.

America was the only country for 80 years that had slavery, all the rest of the world had slavery for 10,000 + years. A good part of the world still has it but where are the great grand children of American slaves prostesting that????

For good or bad, America was founded on White folk, the Spanish and the French.   All considered White by DNA.

The other races that came in later on were responsible for building our rail roads, got in there to help us win our wars and keep the economy going and America strong.

Was China built by non Chinese, was Kenya built by non Africans, Hell no, who would question that.   

America was built by white Europeans, who is to fault that.????  This is the way it is, we began as a White Christian Nation that welcomed in others.   Why not be proud of the country regardless if one came as a slave or an immigrant seeking safe harbor.

So a White Christian Nation is seen as less then a Nation that is not generous and giving to the world, seen as greedy by the the people that live in other nations that refuse to feed their own and demand we do so.

Oh yes us Whites are a nasty bunch to give refuge and help to others.   When we question the motives of others, we get riots in the streets, what in the Hell are these people her for if they hate a White government??

Too much for an old lady to figure out, even my kids have no idea of why the people bite the hand that feeds them.     

[Karin]

What is your Mother Tongue, Vesta?

[zeitgeist]

What is your Mother Tongue, Vesta?

Klingon or Ferengi ?

[Chris_]

Klingon or Ferengi ?

Johnnie Walker

[vesta111]

What is your Mother Tongue, Vesta?

 Really, had I to try to read the writings of those that spoke English 300 years ago, I would be lost, this is one language that changes from year to year, new words and terms, new meanings.  So much that cannot be translated in another language, one can sit next to a Chinese couple and figure out what they are saying as the have to use English at some time. There are no words in their language for or describe what they wish to communicate so they have to use English, as in #&%$# movie theater, or #($%$ auto body shop.

English is a difficult language to learn if one has not grown up in speaking it.   Meanings turned upside down  a bad something may mean something really good.

Few languages change as fast as English, every day we have new words to add to our language. we borrow words from all over the world and incorporate them into English.


Dear Zeitgeist, Can you explain how the word --POONTANG---- came into our English language?????

[zeitgeist]

What is your Mother Tongue, Vesta?

 Really, had I to try to read the writings of those that spoke English 300 years ago, I would be lost, this is one language that changes from year to year, new words and terms, new meanings.  So much that cannot be translated in another language, one can sit next to a Chinese couple and figure out what they are saying as the have to use English at some time. There are no words in their language for or describe what they wish to communicate so they have to use English, as in #&%$# movie theater, or #($%$ auto body shop.

English is a difficult language to learn if one has not grown up in speaking it.   Meanings turned upside down  a bad something may mean something really good.

Few languages change as fast as English, every day we have new words to add to our language. we borrow words from all over the world and incorporate them into English.


Dear Zeitgeist, Can you explain how the word --POONTANG---- came into our English language?????

My first recollection of its use was on a Rusty Warren album "Knockers Up" I believe  .    Stay perky.

[DumbAss Tanker]

What is your Mother Tongue, Vesta?

Gibberish would be my guess.

[Celtic Rose]

Dear Zeitgeist, Can you explain how the word --POONTANG---- came into our English language?????

Most likely via Cajun French.  Putain is French for whore or prostitute.

[Boudicca]

Wondering how they handle Foreign language studies. 

Does this mean if a child's mother language spoken in the home cannot take this class and ace it? No classes for those that all ready speak, read and write the language.

   Then why do English speaking kids have to take their mother tongue as a subject, you may remember English as a subject in school.  Dangling participles and conjunctive verbs-------what ever that has to do with real life.

What to do with children that are Asian, father Chinese, mother Lao and they speak read and write English. Trio lingual and they have to learn another language????

Gee I remember taking English classes when I could read and write the mother tongue, ---now a days English is considered a foreign language to inner school kids.



 

Hey, vesta, in our Arizona schools any student can take Spanish if they so choose.
Mexican-American studies, dreamt up by the liberal whackjobs in Tucson, was simply one more way for La Raza, La Mecha and all the other asshole Latino supremacy groups to get their digs in at white America.
I am pleasantly shocked a judge actually came down on the right side, for once.

[Duke Nukum]

They must have Vesta Studies in Maine's public schools.

[diesel driver]

They must have Vesta Studies in Maine's public schools.

Impossible to implement, Duke.  

Vesta said so herself:  

English Vesta is a difficult language to learn if one has not grown up in speaking it.   Meanings turned upside down  a bad something may mean something really good.

Few languages change as fast as English Vesta, every day we have new words to add to our language. we borrow words from all over the world and incorporate them into English Vesta.

[Crazy Horse]

Vesta,

Just one little fact for you, white IS NOT A RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlueStateSaint]

Gibberish would be my guess.

H5!

[vesta111]

They must have Vesta Studies in Maine's public schools.

So when was the time you went to school for the first time Duke of Earl.

Some of us old timers remember when Education was much different then today's Unionised protection for the incompetent and those that are in it for just for the pay or benefits.

There was no such thing as teachers for the disabled mentally or physically.   All were treated the same, given the same classes and expected to learn a subject even if the child was blind or deaf.  No special treatment for kids whose parents could not afford to buy them glasses or hearing aids.

Corporal punishment  was rampart, a ruler on the knuckles or a paddle to the behind for the boys that upset a teacher, never saw a girl under go that kind of education.

Teachers back then were to teach a subject not to act as social workers or police, they were expected to maintain discipline in the classroom and on the playground.   They had no problem breaking up a fight or sending a kid home with a note to their parents.

Different world Duke, today kids have the advantage of social services, special trained teachers for their needs.  Way different world.

I as a freshman walked into a class sat down and my pencil rolled off the desk onto the floor.   I retrieved it to find the male teacher standing over me yelling at me and sent to the principals office for disrupting his class.   2 day suspension.  

Mom went to the school and came home to tell me the Teacher had personal problem and the pencil rolling was his last straw.   So I was punished for his problems back then, today were that to happen to my child I would raise holy Hell.

Then there was a 60 year old English teacher that was so stressed out she would break into tears over most anything.    We nasty little kids made a game of who would cause her to cry first.   It was more important she reach retirement age then that we learned anything in her class.

We had some wonderful teachers that opened our minds and made class fun and exciting to learn in.  We never realised we were learning in fact, just that those teachers made us interested in the subject and want to know more.

Generation to generation teaching changes, back in the late 1950's a child with Polio in a wheel chair could not go to a small or big town school with stairs, some schools had phone hook ups so the kids at home could listen in on their classes and learn at home.They were free to ask questions over a class room speaker but it did become a distraction the teacher did not welcome.

I come from the era that had no calculators, all math was learned by memorisation, Dates of history of importance had to be memorised, few classmates had a TV, all news was by radio or local news paper.  Parents could not help with homework as they had been educated 30+ years before.

It was the times back then, but somehow those in my generation went to the Moon and back using a slide rule.
Built the hand held calculators, the PC and went on in the arts and sciences.

Truly remarkable what my generation has done, all with a start out education in  way back then schools that were all so different from today's.    Teachers salary's were at $1500 a YEAR, yet we students learned and thrived.

[NHSparky]

All in favor of limiting Vesta's posts to 20 words or less, say, "AYE!"

[vesta111]

Vesta,

Just one little fact for you, white IS NOT A RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So when the census takers come to the door and ask what race I am, what do I tell them???

I am a mongrel, not a pure blood in my veins, may have a dozen or more races in my blood that I am not aware of.

Crazy Horse what is your definition of race, and how to know unless one has 10 generations of Asian blood they are not Asian??   That is not a distinctive race from others????

All belong to the human race, true, but there are distinctions,  African Americans that came to this country inter married with the French Spanish and English.   We placed names on these children, from half breed to Mulatto or octagons, those 1/8 black.    

What race is Tiger Woods, Black, Asian or White????

I got into one hell of an argument with this white dude that tried to tell me that if a person has so much of one drop of black blood they are black by race.    My friend at the time had a g-g grandfather right out of Africa, he married a woman from England and all generations after would were born with the input of English genes to her, blond and blue eyed.  Idiot tried to tell me that she could bare a black child due to genetics,  black predominates .

She went on to marry an Irish man of clear lineage, the baby born had bright green eyes, red  curlie hair  and the skin color was that of coffee with cream added.

Perhaps he was correct that racial characteristics  do go on until something kicks in and a 15 generation baby is born to a black family that has bright blue eyes.

One cannot ignore the racial characterists of others, we are not stupid, we know the Japanese have slanted eyes, the Chinese do not have the eye lid fold.  

You I am sure can make a guess on the race of people you pass by in the mall, not by clothing or hair do's but you can tell a Korean woman from a woman from India.

So if I now have no race by the color of my skin, the formation of my cheek bones,  are you telling me I have no race??

I am white 90% or so I think, who knows about the other 10% that may have at some time come into the family.

Sorry Crazy horse but I have been to many Native American Indian  gatherings and was amazed that 80% of the so called descendants of a tribe were as white as could be.    Few true bloods, few blacks that intermarried with the tribe.     Difficult today to find the last of the Indian race that has remained full blood.

Eskimos are a race,  Asians a race, Samoans a race, are you saying that there is only the African race that is pure?

Darn Crazy Horse,  I want to have a race I can belong to, like others that are so proud . Why can't I be proud of my blood line as others do, revile in the accomplishments of those of my race, get out there with the Latinos, Blacks Asians and hold my head up high and announce my pride in being a White American ????
    

[DumbAss Tanker]

So when the census takers come to the door and ask what race I am, what do I tell them???

Go with "Go Kart" and see what they say.

[sharkhawk]

So when the census takers come to the door and ask what race I am, what do I tell them???

Human


So when the census takers come to the door and ask what race I am, what do I tell them???