Blindpig continues an early bid for DOTY 2012

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100266883

The OP is a uselessly boring copy and paste but then someone dares to question the commies wisdom.

Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. The UN's push for an eco-fascist world government is what prevented the adoption of a sensible

climate change treaty.

It was the UN, not the third-world countries, that would have gotten the money. The fact that there was no provision for the UN to publish accounts of how it would spend the $100 billion/yr the draft called for, was a hard sell.

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. so capitalist's interests had nothing to do with it?


The capitalist's powers saved humanity from UN tyranny?

Got black helicopters?

From a group that buys into every conspiracy theory there is no less.

Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. Well, the West is capitalist and they (we) are interested in surviving;

so obvioulsy, we had something to do with it.

The so-called "Right to survive" and the "International Climate Court," would have had a genocidal effect on the West.

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. "We?"


You got a mouse in your pocket? I for one do not identify with our capitalist master's death wish for our planet and the majority of humanity. Capitalism is having a 'genocidal effect' worldwide as we speak.

Yeah that old world tribalism in Africa or the stone aged enlightenment of the muzzies is so much better.

Bogart (178 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Nonsense, capitalism facilitated the evolution of the most advanced civilizations in the history of

the world. Conversely, Hitler's and Stalin's socialism was responsible for its most horrific genocides.

Now you did it.

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Yes, it has....


but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.

Hitler was not a socialist.

The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.

Yep,those millions killed are just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. For the mass of people, capitalism was slightly better than feudalism

But now it's outlived it usefulness and is turning into a neofeudalism. Time to take the next step.

You are becoming a boring wannabe

socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. There ain't no "green" capitalism. Just like there ain't no

"conscious" capitalism or "compassionate" capitalism. It's ALL capitalism and it's bottom line is profit. "Green" policies get in the way of profit, so OF COURSE, it won't be instituted. Just like consciousness and compassion get in the way of profit and, as such, won't be instituted.

All of these different "types" of capitalism are just marketing schemes to make an anti-people system more palateable for a little while longer. So the 1% can make more profit.

They provide you with Internet where you can spout off your idiocy.

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Big problem with the environmental movement....


is that it is entirely conceived within the structure of capitalism. That'll never, ever work, the scant success of the movement over 40 years is testimony to this intractable constraint.

In other words the only way I can have my way is to force it on you at the point of a sword.
Pretty much where socialism and communism always go.

socialist_n_TN (6,371 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. That's actually the big problem with ALL of the single issue

"movements". They don't put their grievences in a meta context. Which Marxism does. The political, social and economics are ALL interrelated and boil down to ownership. Whoever owns the means of production owns it ALL and you're not going to be able to get any significient changes done UNTIL you have economic democracy. That's when you'll see enviromental changes that actually WORK for the rest of us. And social changes for various oppressed minorities (including religious minorities I might add) that work for the rest of us. And political changes that results in a purer form of democracy that benefits ALL of us and not just the owners.

ALL these single issue problems, no matter how grievious, have to be placed in the context of economic democracy. That is the biggest achievement of the Occupy movement to this point. They HAVE placed everything in the meta context of economic injustice. It's just a short step from economic injustice to the SOLUTION for economic injustice. That's economic democracy.

I will make it simple for you to understand since you are an idiot...you try to take away what I have worked hard for,you will find yourself with a bullet in your skull.

Hey skins,the commies are flipping you off,how do you like your satanic spawn?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Except for Bogart, the DUmmies in that thread are living a history as fake as that of a Holocaust denier.

[GOBUCKS]

I will make it simple for you to understand since you are an idiot...you try to take away what I have worked hard for,you will find yourself with a bullet in your skull.

I wouldn't be so sure of that. They already take at least half.

[jukin]

Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol pot are always smiling when reading the DUmp.

[miskie]

Do these idiots actually know what 'meta' means, or are they all using the prefix now because its fashionable ?

"They don't put their grievences in a meta context"
"they HAVE placed everything in the meta context of economic injustice"

"Meta" is a self-referring term, meaning that the word it is affixed to is somehow contained within itself -

examples - 

a metadream would be when one dreams about dreaming
to metastudy would be when one studies about studying
metamanagement is when one manages managers..

etc etc etc...

so - metacontext is to put contextual things within context - which is all well and good - except it has nothing to do with the author's point.. I suspect the primitive is looking at the prefix 'meta' as meaning 'focused' - which is wrong. 

[/wordnazi]

[GOBUCKS]

Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.

It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.

Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.

The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.

None of them, including nadin, know what it means.

[thundley4]

Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.

It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.

Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.

The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.

None of them, including nadin, know what it means.

I guess we should add DU Trendsetter to nadin's resume.  There have been several words that she has started the DUmmies misusing.

[miskie]

Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.

It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.

Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.

The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.

None of them, including nadin, know what it means.

I would interpret the group name to mean discussions about discussions - an ask the admin type of forum where discussions can be had about the proper decorum and rules for discussion on the rest of the board.

I suspect however, that this group is using 'meta' the same way it is now understood in the word 'metaphysical' - which should mean the physics of physics (string theory, quantum mechanics, etc.) but instead refers to ghosts, esp, telekinesis, and other 'spooky' things. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Do these idiots actually know what 'meta' means, or are they all using the prefix now because its fashionable ?

"They don't put their grievences in a meta context"
"they HAVE placed everything in the meta context of economic injustice"

"Meta" is a self-referring term, meaning that the word it is affixed to is somehow contained within itself -

examples - 

a metadream would be when one dreams about dreaming
to metastudy would be when one studies about studying
metamanagement is when one manages managers..

etc etc etc...

so - metacontext is to put contextual things within context - which is all well and good - except it has nothing to do with the author's point.. I suspect the primitive is looking at the prefix 'meta' as meaning 'focused' - which is wrong. 

[/wordnazi]

I think most of the retards over there, Nads included, think it means roughly the same thing as "Macro."

[DefiantSix]

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Yes, it has....


but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.

Hitler was not a socialist.

The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.

DUmbshit longpig is just begging for some Ukranian to school him - with a punch to the throat, preferably - on the holodomor.

[whiffleball]

I'm surprised Blind Pig is still on the Island.  He's been banned from other refuges DUmmies hide in when they've become targeted for extinction by Skins & Co.  I think he even got kicked off Pitcairn which is no small feat as Crazy Andrea's heart is so soft for the truly insane.

[diesel driver]

Nutcase nadin went through a phase of using "meta" a couple of times in every post.

It was just after her "trend" phase, and just before her "occupy" phase.

Many DUmpmonkeys think anything nadin does must be cool and intellectual, so they do it too.

The new Pay-to-Pay DUmp even has a "meta discussion" group.

None of them, including nadin, know what it means.

So where did "rubicon" fit in this timeline?     Metaphorically speaking, of course.   

[miskie]

So where did "rubicon" fit in this timeline?     Metaphorically speaking, of course.   

Nads....

Just sayin' ....

[wasp69]

DUmbshit longpig is just begging for some Ukranian to school him - with a punch to the throat, preferably - on the holodomor.

Wouldn't matter, he's nothing more than a brain dead union goon.  No amount of aggressive counseling would make a dent.

[Skul]

blindpig (11,252 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Yes, it has....

but at the cost of inflicting terrible hardship on most of humanity and wrecking our environment at a breakneck pace. It's time is necessarily past, we must take that productive capability and use it for the benefit of all humanity.

Hitler was not a socialist.

The misdeeds of "Stalin's socialism" have been fantastically exaggerated.

Wish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Wish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from.

Socialism was actually the true parent of fascism...well before the Nazis, Mussolini was a Socialist.  His success was Hitler's inspiration, in fact he was generally regarded as the senior partner of the two, until the Spanish Civil War proved his military to be far lamer than advertised, and the German military buildup after the Rhineland and repudiation of the Versailles Treaty kickstarted the German economy.

[Rebel]

Wish the sightless swinette would take a moment to tell us where the term "nazi", came from.

Nazi Germany, while many aspects were Socialist, national healthcare, rail, etc., the majority of companies were privately owned, but controlled and regulated by the state. It was essentially an amalgamation of Fascism and Socialism. Where the DUmmies screw up is thinking Fascism is a right-wing ideology and trying to apply it to American politics. Fascism, on the American scale, is a left-wing ideology. It may have been on the right in Germany, due to Communism being on the left in Germany and because there was no such thing as free-market Capitalism in the nation, but DU reads exactly like any fictitious Fascist playbook out there, namely, controlling companies, price-setting, wage-setting, heavy regulations, etc. 

[Rebel]

Also, in all their illiteracy of the subject, DUmmies can't seem to get past one aspect that wasn't a grand theme of Fascism, that being racism. Racism and nationalism weren't the central theme of Fascism, but an ancillary consequence. That's why those ****tards say, "hey mannnn, Republicans are racist, mannnn, that means they're fascist, mannnn" without delving into anything deeper. They really are simple creatures.