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Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« on: December 21, 2011, 07:49:32 PM »


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Detective Superintendent Timo Virtanen of the National Bureau of Investigation said dock workers found the explosives — picric acid — badly stored on open pallets instead of in closed containers. They alerted inspectors who found the missiles in containers marked as holding fireworks.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/finland-impounds-patriot-missiles-1266638.html


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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 07:52:31 PM »
You call them missiles we rednecks call them bottle rockets. :)

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 10:45:25 AM »
You'd think they'd have a better idea about exactly where those things were, wouldn't you?
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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 11:02:39 AM »
You'd think they'd have a better idea about exactly where those things were, wouldn't you?

This is just the Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, settling part of our debt to China.  No big deal.  This giving of national secrets to the Chinese started under Clinton.  It will end when some of our cities disappear.

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 11:47:50 AM »

Back around 2000 I told a friend that I gave it about 15 years until we got a city roasted, most likely by a patched-together, relatively unsophisticated nuclear device inside a 40' steel container at one of our major ports, awaiting customs inspection. 

It's still looking pretty likely, though the event may be a bit farther down the road than I thought then. 
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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 11:57:27 AM »
Back around 2000 I told a friend that I gave it about 15 years until we got a city roasted, most likely by a patched-together, relatively unsophisticated nuclear device inside a 40' steel container at one of our major ports, awaiting customs inspection. 

It's still looking pretty likely, though the event may be a bit farther down the road than I thought then. 

I think you are correct but I fear your time table is a bit off.  I fear this happening OCT 2012. 

Class can you say "Obama's Reichstag fire moment"?

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 12:33:42 PM »
I think you are correct but I fear your time table is a bit off.  I fear this happening OCT 2012. 

Class can you say "Obama's Reichstag fire moment"?

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »
I think you are correct but I fear your time table is a bit off.  I fear this happening OCT 2012. 

Class can you say "Obama's Reichstag fire moment"?

I'm not a CT guy, and while the time you mention is not impossible, based on threat capabilities it is low probability. 

I don't think Obama is intentionally evil, however he is so wrongheaded and clueless on what he wants, how to get there, and the unintended consequences if he ever did get that, that the big dummy might as WELL be evil, because the outcome of him getting what he wants would be just as bad either way.
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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 02:25:09 PM »
What is their mantra?  "Never Let a Good Crisis Go To Waste."

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 05:46:29 PM »
I don't think Obama is intentionally evil, however he is so wrongheaded and clueless on what he wants, how to get there, and the unintended consequences if he ever did get that, that the big dummy might as WELL be evil, because the outcome of him getting what he wants would be just as bad either way.

I think he is evil. Fast and Furious proves it to me. I also think he would create a national emergency of some kind that would result in American or Foreign lives lost in order to get reelected.

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 05:46:59 PM »
I'm not a CT guy, and while the time you mention is not impossible, based on threat capabilities it is low probability. 

I don't think Obama is intentionally evil, however he is so wrongheaded and clueless on what he wants, how to get there, and the unintended consequences if he ever did get that, that the big dummy might as WELL be evil, because the outcome of him getting what he wants would be just as bad either way.

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Re: Finland Impounds Patriot Missiles, Exposives
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 08:24:31 PM »
F&F has the reek of Clintonesque scheming all over it, and I am not positive Obama actually knew of it though Holder would certainly have had to know, because that is how DOJ works - it has a very controlling, top-down  organizational character, and a very precise portfolio.  As SecState, Clinton would have needed to know as well, and it is the kind of dual-purpose plan that would have been extremely appealing to her - reach out after the cartels and get some headlines about our great State and Justice Departments (Money in the political bank for her), while at the same time embarassing the RKBA advocates and shaming them into silence.  She is also perfectly capable of setting up the Boy King to take the fall if it went south, by keeping him in the dark on it.

It may come as a surprise to some, but I have personally seen cases of the most senior leadership in an organization leave the head guy in the dark on their thin-ice schemes, which they saw as 'Protecting' him.  The practical effect was that unless the S totally HTF, he would be truthfully denying any such thing existed (As far as he knew) if anything less than an intense, external inquiry occurred.  F&F is exactly the kind of risky scheme that two assholes like Clinton and Holder could have cooked up, and then agreed to keep it from Obama to preserve his 'Plausible deniability.'

He could be in it up to his eyeballs, of course, though I personally don't think he's actually that smart.  It's just that based on my own experience, I find the possibility of him being insulated from it at least equally probable. 
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