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Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« on: May 05, 2008, 11:04:30 AM »
For any spiritually minded, up-wardly mobile African-American living in Chicago in the mid-1980s, the Trinity United Church of Christ was—and still is—the place to be. That's what drew Oprah Winfrey, a recent Chicago transplant, to the church in 1984. She was eager to bond with the movers and shakers in her new hometown's black community. But she also admired Trinity United's ambitious outreach work with the poor, and she took pride in upholding her Southern grandmother's legacy of involvement with traditional African-American houses of worship. Winfrey was a member of Trinity United from 1984 to 1986, and she continued to attend off and on into the early to the mid-1990s. But then she stopped. A major reason—but by no means the only reason—was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

According to two sources, Winfrey was never comfortable with the tone of Wright's more incendiary sermons, which she knew had the power to damage her standing as America's favorite daytime talk-show host. "Oprah is a businesswoman, first and foremost," said one longtime friend, who requested anonymity when discussing Winfrey's personal sentiments. "She's always been aware that her audience is very mainstream, and doing anything to offend them just wouldn't be smart. She's been around black churches all her life, so Reverend Wright's anger-filled message didn't surprise her. But it just wasn't what she was looking for in a church." Oprah's decision to distance herself came as a surprise to Wright, who told Christianity Today in 2002 that when he would "run into her socially … she would say, 'Here's my pastor!' " (Winfrey declined to comment. A Harpo Productions spokesperson would not confirm her reasons for leaving the church.)

But Winfrey also had spiritual reasons for the parting. In conversations at the time with a former business associate, who also asked for anonymity, Winfrey cited her fatigue with organized religion and a desire to be involved with a more inclusive ministry. In time, she found one: her own. "There is the Church of Oprah now," said her longtime friend, with a laugh. "She has her own following."

Friends of Sen. Barack Obama, whose relationship with Wright has rocked his bid for the White House, insist that it would be unfair to compare Winfrey's decision to leave Trinity United with his own decision to stay. "[His] reasons for attending Trinity were totally different,'' said one campaign adviser, who declined to be named discussing the Illinois senator's sentiments. "Early on, he was in search of his identity as an African-American and, more importantly, as an African-American man. Reverend Wright and other male members of the church were instrumental in helping him understand the black experience in America. Winfrey wasn't going for that. She's secure in her blackness, so that didn't have a hold on her.'' And while Winfrey, who has endorsed Obama and campaigned on his behalf, had long understood the perils of a close association with Wright, friends say she was blindsided by the pastor's personal assault on Obama. "She felt that Wright would never do anything to hurt a man who looked up to him as a father figure," said her close friend. "She also never thought he'd intentionally hurt someone trying to make history and change the lives of so many people.''
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Of course she left! The Church of The Okra is much more seductive! Who wouldn't want to be worshipped like she is?  :whatever: :-)
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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2008, 11:50:21 AM »
Where are these people who "worship" Oprah Winfrey?  I cannot find anyone who has more than mild approval.  I find more than a few who detests her and make fun of her.  To me, she is a clown.

What happened to the Winfey/Obama team that seemed so popular a few months ago?  Did the FEC decide Winfrey was donating the amount of her standard personal appearance fee every time she appeared with Obama for free?  That could add up very quickly to be a huge sum of money.

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 12:01:07 PM »
I think the Church of The Okra followers are relegated to suburban living rooms and carpools :-)

*and I say that as a stay at home mom who drives her kiddo around.

She is a clown for sure. But I'm constantly amazed at the number of women who quote The Okra or anyone who appears on her show.
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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2008, 01:33:15 PM »
I think the Church of The Okra followers are relegated to suburban living rooms and carpools :-)

*and I say that as a stay at home mom who drives her kiddo around.

She is a clown for sure. But I'm constantly amazed at the number of women who quote The Okra or anyone who appears on her show.

I heard this being discussed at lunch just today.  couple of mid-30s ladies at the table next to us swearing
by everything that they have ever heard on okra;  I have never heard such rampant, unbridled, yet self-assured
retardation in my life.


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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2008, 01:38:23 PM »
I think the Church of The Okra followers are relegated to suburban living rooms and carpools :-)

*and I say that as a stay at home mom who drives her kiddo around.

She is a clown for sure. But I'm constantly amazed at the number of women who quote The Okra or anyone who appears on her show.

You know what bothers me the most about Oprah.....she acts like she knows everything about things she couldn't possible know.  Like having children and being married.

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2008, 01:42:35 PM »
I think the Church of The Okra followers are relegated to suburban living rooms and carpools :-)

*and I say that as a stay at home mom who drives her kiddo around.

She is a clown for sure. But I'm constantly amazed at the number of women who quote The Okra or anyone who appears on her show.

You know what bothers me the most about Oprah.....she acts like she knows everything about things she couldn't possible know.  Like having children and being married.

 . . . and being a member of the middle class, instead of the most fabulously wealthy chick on the planet.

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2008, 02:34:03 PM »
I got a kick out of The Okra's road trip a a while back. I actually had to watch parts of it for the sheer entertainment value. The Okra and her best friend Gayle, Ya'll know Gayle? She's her best friend? decided to drive a Chevy across America. Oh Teh Okra was so out of her element. :-) Teh Okra hasn't pumped her own gas in over twenty years, Teh Okra walked out of a hotel/restaurant/buffet type deal because they couldn't immediately accomodate Her Thighness, and she forbade Best Friend Gayle (ya'll know Gayle, she's her Best Friend) from playing the radio in the car. See, Teh Okra likes silence on the road so she can "be with her thoughts".

Comedy Gold!! Teh Okra mingling amongst middle America. :-)
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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2008, 02:46:19 PM »
I got a kick out of The Okra's road trip a a while back. I actually had to watch parts of it for the sheer entertainment value. The Okra and her best friend Gayle, Ya'll know Gayle? She's her best friend? decided to drive a Chevy across America. Oh Teh Okra was so out of her element. :-) Teh Okra hasn't pumped her own gas in over twenty years, Teh Okra walked out of a hotel/restaurant/buffet type deal because they couldn't immediately accomodate Her Thighness, and she forbade Best Friend Gayle (ya'll know Gayle, she's her Best Friend) from playing the radio in the car. See, Teh Okra likes silence on the road so she can "be with her thoughts".

Comedy Gold!! Teh Okra mingling amongst middle America. :-)

is Gayle her best friend?


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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2008, 03:05:00 PM »
I got a kick out of The Okra's road trip a a while back. I actually had to watch parts of it for the sheer entertainment value. The Okra and her best friend Gayle, Ya'll know Gayle? She's her best friend? decided to drive a Chevy across America. Oh Teh Okra was so out of her element. :-) Teh Okra hasn't pumped her own gas in over twenty years, Teh Okra walked out of a hotel/restaurant/buffet type deal because they couldn't immediately accomodate Her Thighness, and she forbade Best Friend Gayle (ya'll know Gayle, she's her Best Friend) from playing the radio in the car. See, Teh Okra likes silence on the road so she can "be with her thoughts".

Comedy Gold!! Teh Okra mingling amongst middle America. :-)

is Gayle her best friend?


 :-)

 :rotf: I don't know. Teh Okra kind of hints at it from time to time on her show.  :-)
I can see November 2 from my house!!!

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 03:12:07 PM »
I got a kick out of The Okra's road trip a a while back. I actually had to watch parts of it for the sheer entertainment value. The Okra and her best friend Gayle, Ya'll know Gayle? She's her best friend? decided to drive a Chevy across America. Oh Teh Okra was so out of her element. :-) Teh Okra hasn't pumped her own gas in over twenty years, Teh Okra walked out of a hotel/restaurant/buffet type deal because they couldn't immediately accomodate Her Thighness, and she forbade Best Friend Gayle (ya'll know Gayle, she's her Best Friend) from playing the radio in the car. See, Teh Okra likes silence on the road so she can "be with her thoughts".

Comedy Gold!! Teh Okra mingling amongst middle America. :-)

before the trip:


during the trip:


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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 03:14:05 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6AuTsg6HQ[/youtube]

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 03:17:25 PM »
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6AuTsg6HQ[/youtube]

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 03:18:09 PM »
FOOD STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bwahahahaha!!!!
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No, my friends, there’s only one really progressive idea. And that is the idea of legally limiting the power of the government. That one genuinely liberal, genuinely progressive idea — the Why in 1776, the How in 1787 — is what needs to be conserved. We need to conserve that fundamentally liberal idea. That is why we are conservatives. --Bill Whittle

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Re: Why Oprah Winfrey left Rev. Wright's church
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 03:24:12 PM »
"Her Thighness"...... :lmao:......oh you racist.

Okra will have to pray for you, "Now, will you all please bow your head for a word from our sponser."
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