primitives discuss incandescent light bulbs

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100228098

Oh my.

I saw this earlier, and wondered the primitives' thoughts on the matter.

One doesn't have to hoard old-fashioned light bulbs any more; the ban on them was rescinded in the spending bill compromise agreed upon by both houses of Congress; it was buried somewhere in there where the Democrats, liberals, and primitives didn't see it.

The Northerner (4,017 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail

Incandescent Bulb Spared in U.S. Lawmakers’ Spending Measure

The 100-watt incandescent light bulb has been spared from a U.S. phaseout in a spending deal reached by Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress.

Legislation debated today will prohibit the Energy Department from enforcing elimination of the traditional, pear- shaped bulb. Tea Party activists and their Republican allies campaigned against the energy efficiency requirement as an example of government overreach.

The federal standards limited the “freedom of average Americans” to buy whatever type of bulb they wanted, Representative Michael Burgess, a Texas Republican, said today in an interview. The House passed the bill today 296-121.

Democrats, environmental groups and bulb makers such as General Electric Co. (GE) have fought to keep the 2007 law that requires the use of more efficient bulbs starting next year.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-16/incandescent-light-bulb-spared-in-u-s-lawmakers-spending-bill.html

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5. This, of course, penalizes manufacturers who invested in compliance

Just peachy.

Pass a law in 2007, so that manufacturers invest in compliance, and then drop the floor out from under them.

[Carl]

Making companies spend money chasing arbitrary,feel good regulations is an even greater waste of resources.

[JohnnyReb]

Making companies spend money chasing arbitrary,feel good regulations is an even greater waste of resources.

Making evil corporations spend their ill gotten booty gained from the exploitation of the poor working class.[DU/Obama/communist/mode]

[BEG]

You don't know how happy this makes me. I HATE the light you get from CFL's and they give me headaches (oh and you can't dim them).  Our new house was full of them, I have tons of them if anyone wants them. The only one I like is the one in our master bath (in the little toilet room  ) because it takes so long to come on it acts like a nightlight so you get pee in the middle of the night and be in and out without it coming all the way on.
 

[Chris_]

You don't know how happy this makes me. I HATE the light you get from CFL's and they give me headaches (oh and you can't dim them).  Our new house was full of them, I have tons of them if anyone wants them. The only one I like is the one in our master bath (in the little toilet room  ) because it takes so long to come on it acts like a nightlight so you get pee in the middle of the night and be in and out without it coming all the way on.
 

You must have an old one or something.  The one I have above my computer (it was the brightest bulb I could find) comes on right after I flip the switch.

[diesel driver]

You must have an old one or something.  The one I have above my computer (it was the brightest bulb I could find) comes on right after I flip the switch.

Mine sounds like BEG's.

It takes a few seconds to hit full intensity, which is nice when I turn on the office light at 5:30am before I go to work.   

[longview]

The government seems to chase after whatever catches their fancy and makes the rest of us pay for it.  

I'm very glad this was rescinded, too.  CFL bulbs seemed to have a flicker to them, which I found very annoying.  Mine also took a few seconds to fully illuminate.  I got rid of them all and figured I go back to oil lamps if I had to.

[BEG]

You must have an old one or something.  The one I have above my computer (it was the brightest bulb I could find) comes on right after I flip the switch.

They shouldn't be old as our house was just finished being built. They suck ass and we have them in EVERY SINGLE light fixture except the can lights. I have replaced all the lights in the bathrooms (except the toilet area in the master bath). I will have a ton if you want them, you pay postage and I will send you every single one.

I'm going to replace the light fixtures in the kitchen (just over the kitchen table and the two pendants, we have can lights and under cabinet lights that I don't have to change the bulbs), dining room and a couple of the fans.  I'll change the lightbulbs when I change the fixtures.

[Chris_]

I may take you up on that.  I can send you a prepaid FedEx label.

[BEG]

I may take you up on that.  I can send you a prepaid FedEx label.

I should save all the packing material from the stuff I get in the mail so the bulbs won't break. They aren't the curly kind, they are the ones that are trying to mimic the look of normal bulbs.  I have already replaced like 20 bulbs and will have many more.

I could probably just send you them on me, consider it a donation to CC.   . Will I get a star if I bribe you with bulbs?

[Chris_]

I'll let you ban somebody.

[BEG]

I must confess, I semi-seriously thought about polluting mother earth with the mercury of the bulbs by throwing them at a picture of Nancy Polosi in one of he vacant lots in the neighborhood.

[BEG]

I'll let you ban somebody.

Anyone? 

[Chris_]

One of the bottom-rung members.  Maybe that Bertram kid.

[BEG]

One of the bottom-rung members.  Maybe that Bertram kid.

I don't know if that would be worth the poison bulbs...

[franksolich]

One of the bottom-rung members.  Maybe that Bertram kid.

<<breathing a sigh of relief.

<<don't want to find a new home.

[BEG]

<<breathing a sigh of relief.

<<don't want to find a new home.

Nevah...not you.

[BlueStateSaint]

<<breathing a sigh of relief.

<<don't want to find a new home.

Same here!    for BEG

[Bodadh]

I tried those curly bulbs once. I hated the sickly yellow glow and they died within a week. And these were the G.E. ones. Total garbage. I will wait til the LED ones come down in price before I give up regular bulbs.

[GOBUCKS]

No one would vote for those POS CFL bulbs if they'd ever used one, even a wacko environmental democrat, unless they were paid for the vote.

They come on dim and only gradually brighten.

They burn out quickly in any application other than base-down, non-enclosed fixtures.

They cost a fortune to replace.

The savings on your electric bill is too small to measure.

They're like every other "green" product on earth: without a stupid law or a government subsidy they'd disappear tomorrow.

[diesel driver]

I tried those curly bulbs once. I hated the sickly yellow glow and they died within a week. And these were the G.E. ones. Total garbage. I will wait til the LED ones come down in price before I give up regular bulbs.

Same here.

I replaced some regular bulbs (automotive 941's) in my camper with the 12 volt LED ones. 

DAMNED expensive, but man, are they BRIGHT!

As soon as I save up another $300, I'm replacing the rest of them.  They run about $15/each.

[JohnnyReb]

Go green...kill a cow...make candles.

[diesel driver]

Go green...kill a cow...make candles.

Been there, done that.

Ran out of cows...

[thundley4]

I'm not so sure this is dead yet.  They just blocked funding of the enforcement of the law. They didn't repeal the law.  Many companies have already shifted production from incandescent to CFLs or the more expensive energy efficient incandescent bulbs.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I tried those curly bulbs once. I hated the sickly yellow glow and they died within a week. And these were the G.E. ones. Total garbage. I will wait til the LED ones come down in price before I give up regular bulbs.

Lowes had some 40-watt equivalent ones on clearance for around $10, I got one to replace a &%@# CFL that lasted about as long as an incandescent in a particularly hard-to-change fixture.  Delighted to have an alternative to the curly little piece of poisonous shit.