mountain man primitive gets fundamental; fears war with Australia

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2382533

Oh my.

ThomWV  (1000+ posts)        Sat Nov-26-11 09:52 AM
Original message
 
A fundamental military problem

Have you noticed that everyone we fight is someone that we have armed? Seems like a fundamental problem to me. Wait until the day we come up against Israel.

It might not be such a bad idea if we just put a halt to giving out military aid of any kind. I wouldn't even care if we kept on giving the same dollar value in foreign aid, just no more military aid. Make it all humanitarian aid if necessary.

This is something different, but its military related and just doesn't make any sense at all. I'm real curious as to how anyone else reads this military detachment we're going to send south. We put 2,000 marines in Australia. Never before had I thought of Australia as a nation of pussies, unable to defend themselves from the likes of Indonesia or New Zealand. You know, I might be able to understand why we'd have a small Air Force contingent somewhere in the great outback, probably running some sort of super secrete satellite based spy system. Maybe such a thing could only be located in one particular spot on earth to work right and maybe we were sharing it all with the Australians, and who knows what else. But Marines? What in hell is that all about. We're talking grunts on the ground here not the militaries' brain trust. And there are only 2000 of them. I know they brainwash those poor kids into thinking they are some kind of video-game super-humans but the truth is they are the same cannon fodder today they have always been and that's not a big enough force to make any difference at all in any military confrontation Australia might find itself involved in.

So I don't know what this Marine/Australia thing is, but I'm dam good and sure it doesn't have anything at all to do with the defense of either Australia or the US. Oh, and it meets a criteria that I suggest we employ to focus ourselves on the deceptions that swirl all around us. That would be that the quicker a major international event disappears from the news the more attention we should be paying to it.

MADem  (1000+ posts)      Sat Nov-26-11 10:00 AM
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1. It has to do with China's increasing presence throughout Asia, and particularly their seagoing presence. It makes total sense from a strategic standpoint.

Everyone in the region--and beyond--has their eye on 'em.

[tanstaafl]

Wow!

Ol' WV Thom, the guy with one leg longer than the other so he can be a real ridge-runner, is starting to put some real effort into his campaign for DOTY. Must be getting nervous about Nadin scooping up all of the top honors.

There's still plenty of time, Thom. Pace yo'self.

[Vagabond]

I wonder if they realize that Indonesia and Vietnam are all in serious talks with us talking about strategic bases as well.  China is making serious diplomatic blunders in the region.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The distinction between where they can be securely based and where they are intended to operate in the region would be entirely lost on that ignoramus.  It never ceases to appall me that his vote counts as much as a sentient being's vote.

[LC EFA]

The US and Australian forces routinely train , wargame and integrate with each other. Have done so for decades.

We've got our own home grown wankers that think this is a bad thing too.

Me I say there should be more of it.

The only potential downside that comes to mind is a potential shortfall in the national beer surplus.

[GOBUCKS]

The US and Australian forces routinely train , wargame and integrate with each other. Have done so for decades.

We've got our own home grown wankers that think this is a bad thing too.

Me I say there should be more of it.

The only potential downside that comes to mind is a potential shortfall in the national beer surplus.

Australia has a beer SURPLUS?
Kiwis are laughing their drunken asses off.

[diesel driver]

The US and Australian forces routinely train , wargame and integrate with each other. Have done so for decades.

We've got our own home grown wankers that think this is a bad thing too.

Me I say there should be more of it.

The only potential downside that comes to mind is a potential shortfall in the national beer surplus.

A shortfall in a surplus?

Is that like having a slowdown in a deficit?   

[Vagabond]

The distinction between where they can be securely based and where they are intended to operate in the region would be entirely lost on that ignoramus.  It never ceases to appall me that his vote counts as much as a sentient being's vote.

The Aussies have also been staunch allies in the war.  Even if we didn't have a long previous history of cooperation, this would be a good thing.

[formerlurker]

It might not be such a bad idea if we just put a halt to giving out military aid of any kind. I wouldn't even care if we kept on giving the same dollar value in foreign aid, just no more military aid. Make it all humanitarian aid if necessary.

You mean like Kosovo and Mogadishu?   That kind of "humanitarian" aid? 

I couldn't read anymore after this.

[LC EFA]

Australia has a beer SURPLUS?
Kiwis are laughing their drunken asses off.

Yes.

Normally , we'd just dilute it with only the purest water from Ewes Bladder Springs, mix in some formaldehyde, label it "Fosters Lager" - and export it to foreigners.  

[DumbAss Tanker]

Yes.

Normally , we'd just dilute it with only the purest water from Ewes Bladder Springs, mix in some formaldehyde, label it "Fosters Lager" - and export it to foreigners.  

Believe me, your sheep's-piss is better than our horse-piss.

(Actually a lot of our domestic mass-produced beer is pretty good for what it is, which is a light-colored lager and almost nothing else from the super-breweries for the mass market, but I like a slightly heartier brew like a German or Czech Pilsener).

[JohnnyReb]

I love my Marines. I think they're the finest in the world....but 2,000 Marines down under does not make it WW3 DUmmie...WW2 1/2 maybe but no WW3.

2 good Marines could whip all the "revolutionary" DUmmies....really wouldn't need but one if you didn't need the other one to guard the beer cooler.

[AprilRazz]

Pst! Hey DUmmies, the navy has been there for years!