#OccupyOakland proposal for total west coast port shutdown has PASSED UNANIMOUSL

[Carl]

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Fire Walk With Me  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 02:38 AM
Original message
#OccupyOakland proposal for total west coast port shutdown has PASSED UNANIMOUSLY! 
 December 12th, IIRC.

#OccupyOakland proposal for total west coast port shutdown has PASSED UNANIMOUSLY!

Just seen on http://www.ustream.tv/occupyoakland
 

msongs  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 02:41 AM
Response to Original message
1. bad move on their part. doing things that hurt people is stupid nt

You know that won`t go over well in the room full of keyboard revolutionaries.

Fire Walk With Me  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 02:43 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Sorry for the inconvenience, we are trying to change the world! 
 

Anyway, Oakland and Seattle and Berkeley and UC Davis and San Diego police and mayors created it themselves. They are to blame. 

Get over yourself you useless idiot.

Zorra  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #2
11. Inconvenience? I lost an average of $800 month in income since Bush 2008,
 and his bankster buddy ripoff of the 99%.

Oh, me, oh my. Gee whillikers, gosh, (sniveling grovelbot voice) oh, dear, I just feel so very blessed that I at least still have some income left, and the banksters left me at least a little something...

Nah. That's a fail. Forget that subservient attitude. We're not gonna take it.

They are to blame, but it's not just the police and mayors.

It's mostly the 1%.

The Revolution Has Absolutely No Reason Not To Shit On Your Apathy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTHv4exE5eI&list=FLtQBGb...

***Bring your video equipment. They are going to very seriously try to frame us for perpetrating violence at all ports participating in this event***

Uhm...shouldn`t you be pissed at O?

Fantastic Anarchist  (669 posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #11
21. No time to be servile.
 It's time to understand that we are the power and the power is us.

If unpleasantries ensue, well, they ensue and people may gasp for a second or two. I've waited for my entire life for this. I'll be damned if I let it go because people are inconvenienced.

If what you wish for happens you will either be in the first line of cannon fodder your leftist elite put you in or you will shit your pants and run away crying.

mwrguy (389 posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 02:53 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs
 It's for the good of the 99%.

 

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
30. Oh, don't be a wuss...
 Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 12:14 PM by backscatter712
You want to win, you have to disrupt.

It's an eggs and omelets situation, AND I WANT THAT ****ING OMELET!

Got any better ideas? Let's hear 'em.

Yep,conservatives are the ones inciting violence.   

snappyturtle  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 02:47 AM
Response to Original message
3. As posted above, some may be hurt but it's temporary. I think this
 will be very attention grabbing and important. To believe that change can take place without some sacrifice is delusional. imho

dkf  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. In this environment it doesn't take much to push a person's livelihood over the edge.
 To think its all temporary pain is probably naive. But hey it's collateral damage right?

Stop trying to make sense.

Fantastic Anarchist  (669 posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 06:11 AM
Response to Original message
19. A positive consequence when people actually start to act in their collective self interests.
 Nobody is going to help us unless we help ourselves. We can only help ourselves if we help each other.

Get on board folks. It might be a little wavy ahead.

socialist_n_TN  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
24. And this is STILL not a serious revolutionary move
 This is merely a warning shot across the bow of the 1% dictatorship of capital. If they don't back off, this kind of "inconvienience" will become the norm. So it's up to the capitalists.

Which way do they jump? Do they back off or do they force us into MORE and BIGGER actions?

Bring it asswipe.

Huey P. Long  (395 posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #24
28. Yes. the first wave. Maybe it subsides, but it WILL return, and soon. We all know 'they' aren't
 going to change. More pain ahead, pretty much a certainty.

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Next step: Multi-day strikes.
 A one-day shutdown can be tolerated by the one-percenters as a temporary nuisance.

A shutdown that keeps going for day-after-day-after-day, maybe even continuing for weeks and months will cause enough economic damage to the bastards that they'll be forced to make concessions.

 

socialist_n_TN  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Yep that is the next step...........
 and at that point you ARE into a revolutionary situation. That's why I said that this is just another shot across the bow of the ship of capitalism and NOT a revolutionary situation or action.

We ARE warning the dictatorship of capital. How they respond will tell how far this goes.

You are nothing but an idiot.

We are Devo (7 posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 11:47 AM
Response to Original message
27. Bring it on..
 sez I. I haven't been joining the protests, but I have been donating goods to Occupy L.A. Panic attacks due to crowds keeps me at home...

This is the revolution.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Some of us choose not to
 As citizen journos I studiously avoid becoming part of the story. But hey that is a very conscious decision. 

As opposed to an unconscious one?
Bet you meant conscientious didn`t you sugar.

Worthless jackasses,you won`t like this revolution you yearn for.

[thundley4]

snappyturtle  (1000+ posts)      Thu Nov-24-11 02:47 AM
Response to Original message
3. As posted above, some may be hurt but it's temporary. I think this
 will be very attention grabbing and important. To believe that change can take place without some sacrifice is delusional. imho

That is true, a few may be hurt temporarily, but if these clowns get their wishes, everyone will be suffering for a long time, just like they have in every other country run by socialists and communists.

[Celtic Rose]

If these dingbats are serious and actually try to close down the ports for an extended period of time, we won't need the police involved to see some moonbats get their asses kicked.  The hardworking Americans who are trying to make a living will take care of it for them.  So far, the protests haven't been much more than an inconvenience to most people, but this would actually prevent people from making money, and most of the people suffering would likely be blue collar workers who may very well be liking paycheck to paycheck, or who are counting on their salary to make this Christmas a good one for their families.  Keep a businessman from his meeting you might get some angry words, take food out of a man's mouth and you start losing whatever sympathy your movement has going for itself.

[BlueStateSaint]

Worthless jackasses,you won`t like this revolution you yearn for.

Especially when they find out "the 99 percent" is actually "47 percent," and the 53 percent on the other side actually have weapons, and people who will use them.

[TVDOC]

If these dingbats are serious and actually try to close down the ports for an extended period of time, we won't need the police involved to see some moonbats get their asses kicked.  The hardworking Americans who are trying to make a living will take care of it for them.  So far, the protests haven't been much more than an inconvenience to most people, but this would actually prevent people from making money, and most of the people suffering would likely be blue collar workers who may very well be liking paycheck to paycheck, or who are counting on their salary to make this Christmas a good one for their families.  Keep a businessman from his meeting you might get some angry words, take food out of a man's mouth and you start losing whatever sympathy your movement has going for itself.

Well....yeah, and the longshoreman's union isn't known for their tolerance of outsiders pissing in their rice bowl.  They are a hell of a lot better "organized" than OWS clowns.....whey won't require a "vote" to react.

We know (of course) that these protesters really aren't too smart, and alienating hourly workers whom they purport to speak for, won't help their cause, and just might get them immediate access to "free healthcare".

doc

[thundley4]

Well....yeah, and the longshoreman's union isn't known for their tolerance of outsiders pissing in their rice bowl.  They are a hell of a lot better "organized" than OWS clowns.....whey won't require a "vote" to react.

We know (of course) that these protesters really aren't too smart, and alienating hourly workers whom they purport to speak for, won't help their cause.

doc

I was thinking the same thing.  Let these protesters come between the union thugs and their pre-Christmas paychecks and see who ends up being hurt.

[Karin]

Yeah, I can't see longshoremen going in for those "down twinkles."   

Those keyboard revolutionaries over on the island sure are pathetic.  At lunch today, I saw the Occupy Indianapolis group on the news.  There were three of them.  I wonder how the Occupy/Prevent Black Friday is going?  Any news stories? 

[thundley4]

Yeah, I can't see longshoremen going in for those "down twinkles."   

Those keyboard revolutionaries over on the island sure are pathetic.  At lunch today, I saw the Occupy Indianapolis group on the news.  There were three of them.  I wonder how the Occupy/Prevent Black Friday is going?  Any news stories? 

Fox News just did a story on OccupoopIndianapolis.  It seems they are trying to recruit homeless people to camp out during the cold weather.

[marv]

Fox News just did a story on OccupoopIndianapolis.  It seems they are trying to recruit homeless people to camp out during the cold weather.

Ah, nothing like recruiting understudies when the cold weather moves in..........

[jukin]

Apparently you cannot make an omelet without pepper spray either.

[Karin]

Apparently you cannot make an omelet without pepper spray either.

That's a good one.     H5

[docstew]

If these dingbats are serious and actually try to close down the ports for an extended period of time, we won't need the police involved to see some moonbats get their asses kicked.  The hardworking Americans who are trying to make a living will take care of it for them.  So far, the protests haven't been much more than an inconvenience to most people, but this would actually prevent people from making money, and most of the people suffering would likely be blue collar workers who may very well be liking paycheck to paycheck, or who are counting on their salary to make this Christmas a good one for their families.  Keep a businessman from his meeting you might get some angry words, take food out of a man's mouth and you start losing whatever sympathy your movement has going for itself.

Question is where the loyalties of the port workers fall? Would the Longshoremen's Union support the shutdown and pay workers out of the strike fund? Would such an action even be legal under terms of their contracts?

I agree that take food off a man's table and he'll get violent. Bonus thought to that is these port workers are guys who are used to moving heavy items all day, probably have more than enough strength and stamina to bash some wimpy DUmmie heads.

[thundley4]

Question is where the loyalties of the port workers fall? Would the Longshoremen's Union support the shutdown and pay workers out of the strike fund? Would such an action even be legal under terms of their contracts?

I agree that take food off a man's table and he'll get violent. Bonus thought to that is these port workers are guys who are used to moving heavy items all day, probably have more than enough strength and stamina to bash some wimpy DUmmie heads.

I would think that the strike fund could only be used if a strike was voted on.  There are certain conditions to be met listed in the union by-laws. However, unions are notoriously crooked and wouldn't necessarily obey their own laws.

[BlueStateSaint]

Thundley, you omitted the best part of Doc's post!

and just might get them immediate access to "free healthcare".

[Ballygrl]

Excuse me, but umm, passed by who? the occukooks as if they have any power? or the city councils?

[DumbAss Tanker]

The incredibly-corrupt gang of organized criminals known as the Longshoremen's Union can shut down those ports, and unless the moonbats have their buy-in, this has as much chance of producing any noticeable effect as 'Not one damn dime day.'

[franksolich]

Excuse me, but umm, passed by who?

That was my first question, too.

Yesterday, at the Thanksgiving table, four adults UNANIMOUSLY agreed it was too bad George Bush still isn't in the White House.  UNANIMOUSLY, we agreed.

Like it'd make any difference.

[Freeper]

The up twinkies I mean up twinkles must have won.

[Skul]

Zorra  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 03:21 AM
Response to Reply #2
11. Inconvenience? I lost an average of $800 month in income since Bush 2008,
 and his bankster buddy ripoff of the 99%.

>snipage<

Think about what you just said, DUmmie.
How's that hopey changetude working for you, DUmbass.
Vote "R" next time, you might get it back.

[TVDOC]

Thundley, you omitted the best part of Doc's post!

Actually Thundley's innocent....I edited the post after it was quoted.

doc

[LC EFA]

backscatter712  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
30. Oh, don't be a wuss...
 Edited on Thu Nov-24-11 12:14 PM by backscatter712
You want to win, you have to disrupt.

It's an eggs and omelets situation, AND I WANT THAT ****ING OMELET!

Got any better ideas? Let's hear 'em.

This here is when they show their true colors.

Gimme-Gimme-Gimme !

[diesel driver]

This here is when they show their true colors.

Gimme-Gimme-Gimme !

Those "colors" have been on display from day 1.

[Aristotelian]

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Thu Nov-24-11 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Some of us choose not to
As citizen journos I studiously avoid becoming part of the story. But hey that is a very conscious decision.

Impressive even for nadin. She isn't merely a citizen journalists, she is several citizen journalists.

[Aristotelian]

I can hear the sound of the international shipping industry quaking in its boots...

[GOBUCKS]

Impressive even for nadin. She isn't merely a citizen journalists, she is several citizen journalists.

Only at the DUmp can a semi-literate egomaniac be considered a "journalist".

But she's the first DUmpmonkey since TomInTib (who, by the way, was superbly literate) to truly deserve Top DUmmy recognition.