I have had to deal with two types of bullies lately.

[Aristotelian]

William769  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 04:44 AM
Original message
I have had to deal with two types of bullies lately.
Those who attack me for being Gay & those who attack me for my faith.

Both are bullies and one is no better than the other. Bullies come in all shapes, sizes, genders & sexualities.

Tolerance goes a long way, intolerance will eat your life away until your an old lonely person.

Peace
Bill

Sub Atomic  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 04:56 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. Am I being 'blinded by my feelings' or am I referencing my experience to form my opinions?
Those in charge refused to come to the aid of a young sexually confused boy when he needed adult intervention in something that was so very ****ing wrong.

As a mother, I would think that you would understand that sometimes children don't understand what's happening and they don't know how to say 'no'.

But I guess you'd prefer to turn a blind eye to the realities of life.

Pretty much like my own mother did.

Thanks for your support.

pnwmom  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 05:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. You're referencing your particular experience to attack all the members of a large, diverse group.
Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 05:11 AM by pnwmom
I don't blame all men for some men's attacks on women, for example; and I don't blame all priests for the despicable actions of a few.

But I am very, very sorry that someone hurt you.

Calm reasoned response to loony rants

Sub Atomic  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. And simultaneously that 'large diverse group' attacks gays on their ignorance of our 'experience'.
This is my perspective.

This is my truth.

This is how I see ALL OF YOU jesus FREAKS.


You allowed my experience to happen.

You allow it to continue unabated today, over 40 years later.


Don't you dare try to tell me that me 'experience' isn't about your bullshit Church and what they allow and then cover up.

So apparently there are gay facts as well as straight ones now...

Quartermass (110 posts)     Wed Nov-23-11 05:46 AM
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22. You're still more popular than atheists are, sad to say. There's still a lot of hostility there.
 I long for the day when bullying people for any reason will stop, period, and people will just learn to live with each other, instead of valuing conformity.

Religious more popular than athiests? Does he realise he's posting on the DUmp?

closeupready  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. The religion forum is ALREADY insulated from honest questions challenging Christianity.
I have had several threads locked that opened with, for example, "Is Christianity superstition?" or some such title, I didn't even expound on my own, the thread was polite discussion, and BOOM, it got locked.

Polite discussion? Really? Calling the world's largest religion 'superstition' was polite?

JoeyT  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 03:43 PM
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31. People being disrespectful to your invisible friend isn't bullying.
Christians are not oppressed, no matter how frequently they claim to be. The entire "Christians are the oppressed majority!!!!!" meme was invented by the fundamentalists to hammer people with when they don't let them harass gay people and control women.

If it's true that moderate Christians don't like fundamentalists, why do they automatically close ranks with them every time they decide their religion is "under attack"?

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[vesta111]

Family as Christians are to some extent  intwined and will close ranks when threatened. Heck when Israel needs help we are there in lock step to help the Jews as our Jesus was a Jew.

When the Muslam faith threatens Christians, the Jews will cover our back.  I seriously doubt that the worlds Buddest comunity will riot and come to the aid of us Westerners.

Bullies you say, for your faith or for seeing you marching in a gay parade >>>>

Or do you work in a supermarket and refuse to check out pork products as you cannot touch the product???
The Boss says he does not care if you have faith in the "the Force" don't want to be around pork, get a job at a Kosher Deli.    OOPS that means working with Jews and some Christian sects that do not eat pork.

Do you work at an abortion clinic as a janitor, cleaning up and disposing of dead baby's???

Do you dress in drag and hang out at dirty book and film shops ?

 I take it you are an adult, not a kid being bullied in school or a play ground. 

Have you just been let out of prison for killing a child and not understand why when you live next door to your victim's the family is not overjoyed to see you ?

Hard as heck to be bullied as an adult, and then what is the definition of adult bulling physical or mental ??

 

[Rufus2010]

William769  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 04:44 AM
Original message
I have had to deal with two types of bullies lately.
Those who attack me for being Gay & those who attack me for my faith.

Both are bullies and one is no better than the other. Bullies come in all shapes, sizes, genders & sexualities.

Tolerance goes a long way, intolerance will eat your life away until your an old lonely person.

Peace
Bill

awww

[AprilRazz]

Sub Atomic  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. And simultaneously that 'large diverse group' attacks gays on their ignorance of our 'experience'.
This is my perspective.

This is my truth.

This is how I see ALL OF YOU jesus FREAKS.

You can move to Iran and start the first gay colony there. I hear they have no gay people.

[Carl]

Sub Atomic  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. And simultaneously that 'large diverse group' attacks gays on their ignorance of our 'experience'.
This is my perspective.

This is my truth.

This is how I see ALL OF YOU jesus FREAKS.


You allowed my experience to happen.

You allow it to continue unabated today, over 40 years later.


Don't you dare try to tell me that me 'experience' isn't about your bullshit Church and what they allow and then cover up.

You are a lunatic,one who demands complete adoration and respect yet shows none in return.
All you want is to be placed in an exalted position for simply thinking you deserve it.

Wallow in your misery and self pity rather then seek help or rise above whatever you claim is undoing you.
You aren`t worth an ounce of respect and will never get any even from those that need you on the vote plantation of queerdom.
Grow up fool.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Jeeze, Sub Atomic is an incredible attention whore.  If the Earth was going to be hit by an asteroid, that prancer would find some way to make it all about 'Him.'

[Chris_]

So apparently there are gay facts as well as straight ones now...

And they're faaaaaaaabulous.

[jukin]

Think how much better the world would be if the fagot just offed himself.

[I_B_Perky]

William769  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 04:44 AM
Original message
I have had to deal with two types of bullies lately.
Those who attack me for being Gay & those who attack me for my faith.

Aaaaaw... poor wittle baby. Want a bottle of milk?

Once a long time ago someone spread a rumor about me being gay. I ignored it. Know why? Because I do not care what anyone else thinks about me. Several guys asked me what I was gonna do. I said nothing cause I do not care what anyone else thinks. Didn't hurt that all the cute little babes wanted to go out with me to turn me back to the other side.  Man I got more women on that rumor than I ever did before or after!

Hey Dummie? Million dollars worth of advice for free.... the only way you can be bullied is if YOU let it happen. Grow a pair boy.

[franksolich]

Aaaaaw... poor wittle baby. Want a bottle of milk?

Once a long time ago someone spread a rumor about me being gay. I ignored it. Know why? Because I do not care what anyone else thinks about me. Several guys asked me what I was gonna do. I said nothing cause I do not care what anyone else thinks. Didn't hurt that all the cute little babes wanted to go out with me to turn me back to the other side.  Man I got more women on that rumor than I ever did before or after!

Hey Dummie? Million dollars worth of advice for free.... the only way you can be bullied is if YOU let it happen. Grow a pair boy.

So, you've dealt with that too.

When I was a little lad, because I insisted upon wearing my hair long, which was uncool at the time, I had to deal with it.  Plenty of fisticuffs, plenty of dust, flying around in the air.  That's when I learned my upper body isn't so great in throwing punches, but man, I have killer legs.

And then other experiences as the years went on; probably due to my cold aloof distant manner.

The latest happened just last week, when a vulgar primitive g-mailed me, suggesting he wanted to give me a Lawrence-of-Arabia "experience."

Some things ain't just never gonna happen.

[vesta111]

So, you've dealt with that too.

When I was a little lad, because I insisted upon wearing my hair long, which was uncool at the time, I had to deal with it.  Plenty of fisticuffs, plenty of dust, flying around in the air.  That's when I learned my upper body isn't so great in throwing punches, but man, I have killer legs.

And then other experiences as the years went on; probably due to my cold aloof distant manner.

The latest happened just last week, when a vulgar primitive g-mailed me, suggesting he wanted to give me a Lawrence-of-Arabia "experience."

Some things ain't just never gonna happen.

What fun for Frank, first time anyone rode a Camel to his place for his enjoyment.

Write back that you are engaged to your pet chicken Sally May.

[Tucker]

You can move to Iran and start the first gay colony there. I hear they have no gay people.

Wonder why!!!

[Karin]

You are a lunatic,one who demands complete adoration and respect yet shows none in return.
All you want is to be placed in an exalted position for simply thinking you deserve it.

Well said!  Who can stand this thing?  Nuclear Fag, look up "Delusions of Grandeur."  You belong in an asylum. 

[vesta111]

Wonder why!!!

As long as a gay is married there is no problem.   You know the saying women are for babies, men and boys for fun.

Interesting culture, men have no fear of walking down the street holding hands with another man,  Long as they have a wife at home.  Hugging, kissing and dancing with male friends is the normal way of life.

Males are not expected to be married for anything but to reproduce children, they get love and care from their male friends, to spend time with a wife or have her as a friend is unheard of.

Males rule from birth, the female is but a cow to produce offspring, a 4 year old male knows that if his older sisters or mother give him a hard time he as a male can have them punished severely.

This may have been the culture 1600 years ago but today after all these years I have no idea why females put up with it.

The gays that are caught and hung are the teenage dancing boys with no money to get a wife or when they rebel from being used  or go to a more wealthy patron are turned in.

In todays society this is sick and warped, in their society this is just following traditions.

[I_B_Perky]

So, you've dealt with that too.

When I was a little lad, because I insisted upon wearing my hair long, which was uncool at the time, I had to deal with it.  Plenty of fisticuffs, plenty of dust, flying around in the air.  That's when I learned my upper body isn't so great in throwing punches, but man, I have killer legs.

And then other experiences as the years went on; probably due to my cold aloof distant manner.

The latest happened just last week, when a vulgar primitive g-mailed me, suggesting he wanted to give me a Lawrence-of-Arabia "experience."

Some things ain't just never gonna happen.

Well Frank... I am considered cold and aloof too. It's more because I am really pretty shy and when I do not know what to say I usually say nothing. As for what other people think about me... or what the dummies think about me for that matter... I got one thing to say about it: "F**k off".

 

[Skul]

I'm giving Vesta a H5, for that.