Don`t raise my taxes!

[Carl]

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bigtree  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:22 AM
Original message
If Congress doesn't act, your taxes will go up. Find out how much more you'll pay
 The December Tax Deal

Tax Cut Calculator: http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/taxes/tax-cut-calculat...

At the end of last year, the President signed a law that kept the 2001 and 2003 middle-class tax cuts from expiring - preventing the typical working family from facing a tax increase - and extended unemployment insurance to ensure at least 7 million Americans don't lose their benefits as they search for jobs. In addition, the President fought for and passed a payroll tax cut that is already showing up in paychecks and additional tax cuts that apply to taxes for 2011 - these are the focus of this calculator.

The savings from the middle class tax cuts that the President kept from expiring beyond this calculator shouldn't be overlooked, though. Those benefits require more detail about your individual tax liabilities to determine precisely, but to give a sense of the tax cuts received by a typical family just by extending those tax cuts:

A typical married couple with two kids earning $40,000 received an additional $2,640
A typical single mother with one kid earning $30,000 received an additional $1,110
A typical married couple with three kids earning $75,000 received an additional $2,640
A typical married couple with no children earning $50,000 received an additional $1,140

And extending these middle class tax cuts was only part of what the December tax deal did for middle-class families to help provide a boost to their pocketbooks.

Click on text box to learn more about which of these tax cuts you might be receiving . . .

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/taxes/tax-cut-calculat...

MadHound  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 10:24 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good, this country needs more revenue coming in to solve its long term economic problems
 Hopefully the Bush era tax cuts, all of them, will be allowed to expire as well. Get more revenue coming in, rather than continuing to cut and gut more and more social services.  

geckosfeet  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. I agree. As long as defense spending decreases and social benefit spending increases.

Gimme.

bigtree  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. In my view, your position holds middle class tax relief hostage
 Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 10:53 AM by bigtree
. . .to Congress' refusal to set the right priorities for spending our money.

I love how you equate my relinquishing what I regard as tax fairness to patriotism, as if my forgoing that tax break would automatically mean Congress will then make reasonable, equitable, and fair spending choices.

You do your 'patriotic duty' to Congress with your own money. You can always send it back. How 'bout starting a DU movement to get folks' to return the tax money they don't want back to the treasury?

MadHound  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. Wow, you are good at regurgitating those RW memes,
 "If you think we should be paying more in taxes, then send in the extra yourself, don't raise my taxes." Sounds like it is straight from Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck's mouth.

I'm not looking at spending priorities, I'm looking at the simple fact that we've got to have more revenue coming into government in order to deal with this debt and other economic problems without taking the Norquist solution. Apparently you're more than willing to shrink government to the point where it can be drowned in a bathtub, just so long as you get your precious, precious tax cuts.  

bigtree  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. you have a different point of view. That doesn't make mine republican
 Government only shrinks if Congress acquiesces to it. The fact that the middle class got and support tax relief that supplements their income doesn't make them republicans or make them accessories to ANYTHING the republicans ultimately do.

The fact that I think you should put YOUR money where your mouth is doesn't make me Limbaugh or any other republican.

There you are on your high horse looking down on folks who say they appreciate and need the money. And you posture as a 'PATRIOT' willing to forgo your tax break and MINE as well.

But you don't stop there. You insinuate that I'm less than patriotic for supporting, accepting, and defending my share of middle-class tax relief. There's nothing more republican than questioning folks' patriotism because they disagree with you.

dennis4868  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 10:40 AM
Response to Original message
8. I'm happy all of you....
 can pay more in taxes but I can't. I will be in big trouble if I have to pay the extra taxes...I love my country and would love to be in a position to pay more now but I am not...I am scared.

bigtree  (1000+ posts)        Wed Nov-23-11 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #8
12. I hear you
 I'm looking for any advantage. I've watched as the wealthy have cleaned up at my expense. Now, when it's my turn to benefit, when it's my turn to have my taxes reduced, supposedly progressive folks want to preach austerity to me.

ileus (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 10:59 AM
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17. I'd rather keep my potential tax dollars, than buy them more pepper spray.
 Edited on Wed Nov-23-11 11:01 AM by ileus
what do you think they'd really do with more tax money? Increase spending on education? **** no...

Buy more weapons, fund another mortgage lenders bailout, give more cash to israel, start another war.


As for me and my family we can put the money that's already in our pockets to a much better use.

Greedy bastards.

[thundley4]

Tax Cut Calculator: http://www.whitehouse.gov...es/taxes/tax-cut-calculat...

I don't remember President Bush using the official White House website as a constant campaign tool like Obama has done.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The 53% can afford it a lot more than the leeches can, a big bunch of them will end up with some 'skin in the game' after all if this comes to pass.  Bring it.

[Karin]

just so long as you get your precious, precious tax cuts.  

 What a bitch.  

And another thing.  Whenever someone voices the slightest disagreement, or makes some sort of reality-based remark, someone else shrieks "RIGHTWING MEME!  RIGHTWING MEME!!!!!  RETHUG!  ALERT ALERT!!!!" 

It's maddening; it must be doubly so for those on the receiving end of it. 

[vesta111]

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Gimme.

Greedy bastards.

Depends on where in the country you live Carl.

I live in a Donner town, I had no idea when I bought my home.

What a Donner town is, one with enough Millionaires living in town say 3-5 of them and a small town with perhaps 3,000 people middle class and under live there.    Taxes on the wealthy are sky high.  Lots left in the town coffers for improvement.

Along comes State Government   GEE WIZ you have quite a bit of money, the schools are all set are doing well.

However there is a town we will not name that needs funds.   We need your town to become a Donner to this unnamed town in our state.

Question is , when the lottery was voted in, was not the reason the gains would go to the schools in the state.
Did we not allow the lottery's to come in as their selling point was the benefits of the poor school districts ???

Today the lottery is a benefit for those that run it.   Today my tax bill has $1500 added to it  as we are a Donner town and sending [ they say we are ] money to an unnamed town some where else in NH.

Crap, no way to find out where the education funds from the lottery are going or where my town taxes are going.

Taxes. no State Taxes in NH, grand --live free or die----But beware of moving into a Donner town----rent do not buy.

[jukin]

Yes the 0bama tax hikes are coming.

If the republicans were smart in the senate (Which they are not) mandatory decreases, real decreases in government spending would be tied to increasing everybody's tax rates. Go to zero base line budgeting and then you can have your 0bama tax increase on everyone.

[Texacon]

MadHound  (1000+ posts)      Wed Nov-23-11 10:24 AM
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1. Good, this country needs more revenue coming in to solve its long term economic problems
 Hopefully the Bush era tax cuts, all of them, will be allowed to expire as well. Get more revenue coming in, rather than continuing to cut and gut more and more social services.

If I'm not mistaken these ARE the Bush tax cuts DUmbass.

I love how they don't want to admit they got tax cuts under Bush.  Remember when they were all screaming to high hell for Congress to eliminate the Bush tax cuts because they'd been sold a bill of goods by the left wing rage machine.

Once they found out THEY got tax cuts too then the whole scene changed.

KC