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Occupy Christmas
« on: November 20, 2011, 09:03:01 PM »
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L. Coyote   (1000+ posts)           Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 PM
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Occupy Christmas
   

 
What if we boycott the holiday spending and donate to homeless shelters instead?

Don't kill a tree for Christ's sake - don't waste paper on materialism.

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I love it when they get these boycott ideas.  :-)

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Bluenorthwest   (1000+ posts)             Sun Nov-20-11 03:46 PM
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3. Christmas trees are a crop farmed by many family farms and
   
they are a vital part of Oregon's economy. If the land was not used to grow trees, it would not be a forest instead, and those trees do not come from natural woods. They are farmed, like corn.
I'll have a tree. 99% of the gifts I do buy are locally made by wee, tiny businesses.
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NYC_SKP    (1000+ posts)               Sun Nov-20-11 03:49 PM
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5. No matter how hard one tries, one can not make xmas tree farms a "green" enterprise.
   
Like corn, there is a carbon footprint to harvesting, growing, shipping, replanting, etc. holiday trees.

I hate to see the public believing that it's OK.

It won't kill the planet, but it's not helpful.

Trees should be left to grow and thrive, tractors and trucks and cars of people going out to buy these and bring them home and the garbage trucks that pick them up and all that crap....


....It needs to stop.


Yep poor Skippy can't stand the fact that maybe some folks actually enjoy Christmas.  :whatever:

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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 09:39:14 PM »
Wasn't Obama trying to pass a Christmas tree tax to be used to get people to buy more Christmas trees?
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 10:49:35 PM »
This Christmas will be Not One Damn Present Day!

Quick! Someone send this to the bigshots at the DUAC!
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 11:14:43 PM »
You can't make crazy up like that. It has to be happen.....and be posted for approval.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 11:20:07 PM »
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13. One of them War on Christmas crowd, eh?

 Edited on Sun Nov-20-11 04:31 PM by OtherSideTeam

(sarcasm)

A Nadin fan.   :-)
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2011, 11:31:24 PM »
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Brickbat  (1000+ posts)      Sun Nov-20-11 10:13 PM

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19. I harvest my own tree off my own land, I buy only union-made or Made in USA goods, or I buy gift- certificates for services (restaurants, massages). That about sums it up.

Sure you do.    :whatever:
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 04:52:09 AM »
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19. I harvest steal my own tree off my own neighbor's land, I buy steal only union-made or Made in USA goods anything I can get my hands on that's worth more than 12 cents, or I buy steal gift- certificates for services (restaurants, massages). That about sums it up.

DUmmie Christmas shopping made easy.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 07:27:40 AM »
[quoteNYC_SKP]    (1000+ posts)               Sun Nov-20-11 03:49 PM
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5. No matter how hard one tries, one can not make xmas tree farms a "green" enterprise.
   
Like corn, there is a carbon footprint to harvesting, growing, shipping, replanting, etc. holiday trees.

I hate to see the public believing that it's OK.

It won't kill the planet, but it's not helpful.

Trees should be left to grow and thrive, tractors and trucks and cars of people going out to buy these and bring them home and the garbage trucks that pick them up and all that crap....
....It needs to stop.
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How does this person's brain work?  Trees are a renewable resource.  I'm certain I would get nowhere trying to educate this person about how harvesting trees, whether from a farm or the forest, can be part of sensible management and benefit the ecosystem of both. 
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 07:50:25 AM »
I just had the DUMBEST question ever flash across my mind.......

"Why don't the DUmmies ever suggest boycotting the IRS"

I think I may need to see a doctor.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 08:02:08 AM »
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Trees should be left to grow and thrive

So should unborn babies, but hey it you can save a tree, it's all good. :argh:
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 08:14:53 AM »
NYC SKP says:

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all that crap....

....It needs to stop.


Who the hell says so?  You?  YOU?  You don't matter.  You have no say in how I spend my life.  You are nothing.  You're not the special snowflake you've been told you were.  You are absolutely inconsequential.  Now get the hell out of my Christmas.   
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2011, 09:25:23 AM »
Save a tree, eat a beaver.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2011, 09:43:23 AM »
Oops...wrong thread  :thatsright:

 
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2011, 09:53:27 AM »
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L. Coyote   (1000+ posts)           Sun Nov-20-11 03:39 PM
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Occupy Christmas
   

 
What if we boycott the holiday spending and donate to homeless shelters instead?

Don't kill a tree for Christ's sake - don't waste paper on materialism.

And just what would the homeless shelter do with the 18 cents, 4 empty beer bottles worth a dime each, a 20 cent off coupon at Burger King and a expired voucher for a free massage at Horse with no brains single wide trailer?
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2011, 10:00:05 AM »
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NYC_SKP    (1000+ posts)               Sun Nov-20-11 03:49 PM
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5. No matter how hard one tries, one can not make xmas tree farms a "green" enterprise.

Fossil fuels BAD

Trees BAD

Crops BAD


Apparently people weren't meant to be allowed to live under any circumstances.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 10:57:00 AM »
Quote from: Karin on November 21, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
NYC SKP says:

Who the hell says so?  You?  YOU?  You don't matter.  You have no say in how I spend my life.  You are nothing.  You're not the special snowflake you've been told you were.  You are absolutely inconsequential.  Now get the hell out of my Christmas.    

What you said. H5.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 10:59:03 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on November 21, 2011, 07:50:25 AM
I just had the DUMBEST question ever flash across my mind.......

"Why don't the DUmmies ever suggest boycotting the IRS"

I think I may need to see a doctor.

Because the DUches already DO boycott the IRS.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 11:01:26 AM »
These are the same people who want to do all-local food, etc.

Yeah, try growing oranges in Maine.  Try having certain crops in certain other areas.  The fertilizers, pesticides, etc., to get the shit to even grow is enough to counter any perceived savings to either Mother Gaia or the DUmmies pocketbooks.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 11:04:15 AM »
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Trees should be left to grow and thrive

Like this one?

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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 04:57:49 PM »
Good God what a miserable and hate filled lot they are.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 05:10:56 PM »
Quote from: Karin on November 21, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
NYC SKP says:

Who the hell says so?  You?  YOU?  You don't matter.  You have no say in how I spend my life.  You are nothing.  You're not the special snowflake you've been told you were.  You are absolutely inconsequential.  Now get the hell out of my Christmas.   

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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 09:13:54 PM »
We should all buy two Christmas trees this year.  :)
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2011, 05:22:21 PM »
Quote from: Carl on November 21, 2011, 04:57:49 PM
Good God what a miserable and hate filled lot they are.

Understatement of the decade.
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2011, 06:08:30 PM »
Quote from: movie buff on November 23, 2011, 05:22:21 PM
Understatement of the decade.

Green you say, buy a dieing tree for Christmass???

We have had a manufactured Christmass Tree for close to 18 years.   Every year same thing, get it out of the box, put on same ornaments, oh what fun for Hubby as he loves to start the lights up say after Thanksgiving.

Problem, I worked for less then a month at a plant in VA. that makes these trees 25 years ago.   Union shop with no benefits, 7 1/2 hours a day so we only got a 15 minute break each day and most workers were as I was told on prison work release.

Worse job I ever had making these dam trees, no stools to sit on, no reason not to, most jobs could be done sitting down but everyone had to stand in one spot for hours.    Union dues taken out from my pay check but
no info about the union or who were the shop leaders.

Every year when Hubby gets the tree out of the box I am reminded of the blood sweat and tears that go into producing this product.   Then I remember that I do not want a real once alive tree dieing in my home.

Complicated, why does life have to be so darn complicated????
 
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Re: Occupy Christmas
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2011, 08:24:23 PM »
Quote from: vesta111 on November 23, 2011, 06:08:30 PM
Green you say, buy a dieing tree for Christmass???

We have had a manufactured Christmass Tree for close to 18 years.   Every year same thing, get it out of the box, put on same ornaments, oh what fun for Hubby as he loves to start the lights up say after Thanksgiving.

Problem, I worked for less then a month at a plant in VA. that makes these trees 25 years ago.   Union shop with no benefits, 7 1/2 hours a day so we only got a 15 minute break each day and most workers were as I was told on prison work release.

Worse job I ever had making these dam trees, no stools to sit on, no reason not to, most jobs could be done sitting down but everyone had to stand in one spot for hours.    Union dues taken out from my pay check but
no info about the union or who were the shop leaders.

Every year when Hubby gets the tree out of the box I am reminded of the blood sweat and tears that go into producing this product.   Then I remember that I do not want a real once alive tree dieing in my home.

Complicated, why does life have to be so darn complicated????
 

Whatever...   :yawn:
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