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Ehhh, it's about the same as any other clerical MOS on the work level, and they are generally subject to pulling as many shit details as anyone.  Chaplains' Assistants are the real Kings of Get-Over.     

Except for when it comes time for the personal effects detail.

But on topic, Reserve paralegal is a pretty safe bet, the Guard actually gets called up more I believe and there are paralegals on AD.

I'm sure there are many fine enlisted personnel of the Chapel E5 and below who are not actually drug-abusers, thieves, or both, but I have met very few clean ones, and I'll just leave my experiences with them at that.
Paralegal is a difficult MTOE fill for deploying units due to low MOS density, total MOS stength issues, high quals, and a disproportionate number of women in child-bearing years in the MOS many of whom are therefore pregnant at any one time and thus nondeployable (in the age group that goes with the grades filling BCT slots particularly), so 27Ds in either the USAR or ARNG have an extraordinarily high chance of being called up as individuals to fill slots in deploying BCTs.
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Ehhh, it's about the same as any other clerical MOS on the work level, and they are generally subject to pulling as many shit details as anyone.  Chaplains' Assistants are the real Kings of Get-Over.     

Except for when it comes time for the personal effects detail.

But on topic, Reserve paralegal is a pretty safe bet, the Guard actually gets called up more I believe and there are paralegals on AD.

I'm sure there are many fine enlisted personnel of the Chapel E5 and below who are not actually drug-abusers, thieves, or both, but I have met very few clean ones, and I'll just leave my experiences with them at that.
Paralegal is a difficult MTOE fill for deploying units due to low MOS density, total MOS stength issues, high quals, and a disproportionate number of women in child-bearing years in the MOS many of whom are therefore pregnant at any one time and thus nondeployable (in the age group that goes with the grades filling BCT slots particularly), so 27Ds in either the USAR or ARNG have an extraordinarily high chance of being called up as individuals to fill slots in deploying BCTs.

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Ehhh, it's about the same as any other clerical MOS on the work level, and they are generally subject to pulling as many shit details as anyone.  Chaplains' Assistants are the real Kings of Get-Over.     

Except for when it comes time for the personal effects detail.

But on topic, Reserve paralegal is a pretty safe bet, the Guard actually gets called up more I believe and there are paralegals on AD.

I'm sure there are many fine enlisted personnel of the Chapel E5 and below who are not actually drug-abusers, thieves, or both, but I have met very few clean ones, and I'll just leave my experiences with them at that.
Paralegal is a difficult MTOE fill for deploying units due to low MOS density, total MOS stength issues, high quals, and a disproportionate number of women in child-bearing years in the MOS many of whom are therefore pregnant at any one time and thus nondeployable (in the age group that goes with the grades filling BCT slots particularly), so 27Ds in either the USAR or ARNG have an extraordinarily high chance of being called up as individuals to fill slots in deploying BCTs.
I will defer to your experience since if memory serves me you deal with the paralegals and it seems Chaplin's Assistants much more frequently than I. I don't even know if I have ever dealt with a paralegal, at least in the Army.

It's bad enough when I have to deal with the 19 series.  :-)
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Ehhh, it's about the same as any other clerical MOS on the work level, and they are generally subject to pulling as many shit details as anyone.  Chaplains' Assistants are the real Kings of Get-Over.     

Except for when it comes time for the personal effects detail.

But on topic, Reserve paralegal is a pretty safe bet, the Guard actually gets called up more I believe and there are paralegals on AD.

I'm sure there are many fine enlisted personnel of the Chapel E5 and below who are not actually drug-abusers, thieves, or both, but I have met very few clean ones, and I'll just leave my experiences with them at that.
Paralegal is a difficult MTOE fill for deploying units due to low MOS density, total MOS stength issues, high quals, and a disproportionate number of women in child-bearing years in the MOS many of whom are therefore pregnant at any one time and thus nondeployable (in the age group that goes with the grades filling BCT slots particularly), so 27Ds in either the USAR or ARNG have an extraordinarily high chance of being called up as individuals to fill slots in deploying BCTs.

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It's bad enough when I have to deal with the 19 series.  :-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!

 :-)
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It's bad enough when I have to deal with the 19 series.  :-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!

 :-)

How jealous would you be if I said I know guys who have said, "gunner, can, troops"?
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It's bad enough when I have to deal with the 19 series.  :-)

Hey, I resemble that remark!

 :-)

How jealous would you be if I said I know guys who have said, "gunner, can, troops"?

 :-) < This!

I always regretted we didn't have a couple of rounds of Beehive in our basic load....it was just so....full of possibilities!
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How jealous would you be if I said I know guys who have said, "gunner, can, troops"?


 :-) < This!

I always regretted we didn't have a couple of rounds of Beehive in our basic load....it was just so....full of possibilities!

I guess it goes really nice with JAM
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How jealous would you be if I said I know guys who have said, "gunner, can, troops"?


 :-) < This!

I always regretted we didn't have a couple of rounds of Beehive in our basic load....it was just so....full of possibilities!

I guess it goes really nice with JAM

Well, we were more concerned with hordes of Motorized Rifle Regiments from the Pact pouring out of Thuringia, the Jaysh al'Mahdi wasn't around then.  CAN is best for MOUT, and 120 is a much bigger load of it than 105, but Beehive was pretty versatile stuff in its own way, you could dial in the fuze for anything from MA out to 4400.
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Your welcome(I wrote it out before it got more stupider)
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Well, we were more concerned with hordes of Motorized Rifle Regiments from the Pact pouring out of Thuringia, the Jaysh al'Mahdi wasn't around then.  CAN is best for MOUT, and 120 is a much bigger load of it than 105, but Beehive was pretty versatile stuff in its own way, you could dial in the fuze for anything from MA out to 4400.
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Sorry, didn't realize anyone else was still tracking it, MPCOA did great there.  "27D" is the alphanumerical MOS identifier that goes with "Paralegal." 
19-series refers to America's Steel Fist, the Tankers and Cavalry Troopers.  11-series MOSs are Infantrymen, the Queen of Battle, both noble brothers-in-arms at the point of the spear. 

On edit:  Oh yeah - CAN=Canister, basically a big shotgun shell for a tank main gun.  Beehive was the flechette round (5000 little bitty steel darts in each one) which had a loader-indexible time fuze which could set the burst from "MA" (Muzzle Action) to 4400 meters, the round would burst 75 meters short of the indexed range with a puff of yellow smoke to mark the shot for the gunner and tank commander to correct on the next round.  MOUT=Military Ops on Urban Terrain aka "Knife fight in a closet."  
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Sorry, didn't realize anyone else was still tracking it, MPCOA did great there.  "27D" is the alphanumerical MOS identifier that goes with "Paralegal." 
19-series refers to America's Steel Fist, the Tankers and Cavalry Troopers.  11-series MOSs are Infantrymen, the Queen of Battle, both noble brothers-in-arms at the point of the spear.   

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Well, some say it's cause God loves the Infantry, but it could also be just 'cause he's merciful and wanted them to see something besides brown and red when they check out....

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Well, some say it's cause God loves the Infantry, but it could also be just 'cause he's merciful and wanted them to see something besides brown and red when they check out....

 :cheersmate:

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Well, some say it's cause God loves the Infantry, but it could also be just 'cause he's merciful and wanted them to see something besides brown and red when they check out....

 :cheersmate:

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My, you have been hanging with some tankers!
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My, you have been hanging with some tankers!

Heck, I learned that one in the Corps. Marine M1's have always had the infantry phone.

Just please don't eat your charms.
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My, you have been hanging with some tankers!

Nothing like the smell of M-1 exhaust....best place to be in the winter time is behind an Abrams :D

I'll be so glad when I get back to the Mech/Armored world.

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My, you have been hanging with some tankers!

Nothing like the smell of M-1 exhaust....best place to be in the winter time is behind an Abrams :D

I'll be so glad when I get back to the Mech/Armored world.

These Light guys walk too damn much for me.

IIRC, you had to be a few feet behind the things.
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Source: DoD Directive 1332.14: “Enlisted Administrative Separations”)

The guy  might/might not owe the US Treasury 10K, lot of variables in determining the status.


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If you're within the first 180 days of your enlistment, your commander may discharge you under the terms of an Entry Level Separation based upon your performance and the likelihood you will adapt successfully to military life.

Source: DoD Directive 1332.14: “Enlisted Administrative Separations”)

The guy  might/might not owe the US Treasury 10K, lot of variables in determining the status.




Spounds like he is done with the Basic phase of what is called "Split option" Initial Entry Training (Basic Combat Training one summer, Advanced Individual Training the next), so prolly too far down the tube for a Chapter 11.
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My, you have been hanging with some tankers!

Nothing like the smell of M-1 exhaust....best place to be in the winter time is behind an Abrams :D

I'll be so glad when I get back to the Mech/Armored world.

These Light guys walk too damn much for me.

You should get behind the blast from the exhaust of a CH-47D sometime during a cold spell.
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They are both turbines, one is just a whole lot closer to the ground.
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They are both turbines, one is just a whole lot closer to the ground.

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