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The Evils of Layaway
« on: November 13, 2011, 01:21:14 PM »
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APNewsBreak: Senator warns of layaway's cost
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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- The return of layaway plans this holiday shopping season is raising concern that the break from credit cards might actually cost consumers far more.

For example, a rock `n' roll Elmo doll that requires a $5 layaway fee and a 10 percent down payment for a month can equal a credit card that charged more than 100 percent interest, U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer said.

Schumer is asking major retail associations to direct their members to more clearly present their layaway fees to customers. The Democrat says the ultimate cost of a layaway with a $5 fee can equal 40 percent interest over a month or two for many common purchases compared to the annual rates of most credit cards.

He said if stores don't better present the cost of layaway purchases, he will ask the Federal Trade Commission to determine whether the increasing use of layaway is a deceptive or misleading business practice. Historically, stores started dropping layaway plans in the 1990s in part because of these costs and inconveniences.
 

Is there nothing that these cretins won't or can't find fault with? I am sorry but I do not see anyone twisting their arms behind their backs and forcing them to use layaway, credit cards or any other form of credit for that matter.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2011, 03:10:21 PM »
How about saving your money then buying the toys for your child's Christmas present? 

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2011, 03:20:45 PM »
How about saving your money then buying the toys for your child's Christmas present? 

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I've never used layaway.  I don't really understand the point of it.  If I can't afford a certain gift with the money saved up for Christmas, I do not buy that gift.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2011, 03:26:23 PM »
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APNewsBreak: Senator warns of layaway's cost
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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- The return of layaway plans this holiday shopping season is raising concern that the break from credit cards might actually cost consumers far more.

For example, a rock `n' roll Elmo doll that requires a $5 layaway fee and a 10 percent down payment for a month can equal a credit card that charged more than 100 percent interest, U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer said.

Hey, Chucky the Schmuck.
 
The 10% down payment goes TOWARD the purchase price of the damned toy, MORON!

I have a question for the people of New York.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2011, 03:40:05 PM »
A lot of people used to have Christmas Club accounts. I haven't heard of those in many years.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2011, 03:52:45 PM »
A lot of people used to have Christmas Club accounts. I haven't heard of those in many years.

All the major banks here offer them.

FWIW, Scoobie and I used layaway for a couple of larger presents at Wally World.  We wanted to ensure were available yet didn't want/need to put all the money down for all at once.  $5 plus a 10 percent down with the remainder due by December 16th.  Frankly, $5 is a pittance to pay to ensure the stuff I want to get for the kids or we get for each other if we want "big ticket" items is a helluva lot cheaper ($5 of $500 purchases for two months translates to less than 6 percent interest) versus the 18-plus percent interest with payments as far as the eye can see credit cards.

Chuck Schumer is living proof the most dangerous space in America is anyplace between him and a television camera.

This is a jab at Walmart and their layaway policy, nothing more.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2011, 04:11:43 PM »
All the major banks here offer them.

FWIW, Scoobie and I used layaway for a couple of larger presents at Wally World.  We wanted to ensure were available yet didn't want/need to put all the money down for all at once.  $5 plus a 10 percent down with the remainder due by December 16th.  Frankly, $5 is a pittance to pay to ensure the stuff I want to get for the kids or we get for each other if we want "big ticket" items is a helluva lot cheaper ($5 of $500 purchases for two months translates to less than 6 percent interest) versus the 18-plus percent interest with payments as far as the eye can see credit cards.

Chuck Schumer is living proof the most dangerous space in America is anyplace between him and a television camera.

This is a jab at Walmart and their layaway policy, nothing more.

That makes sense.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2011, 04:16:26 PM »
WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU KEEP RE-ELECTING THIS FLAMING MORON!
I guess those dumbass Yankees like to be bossed around while getting ****ed in the ass.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2011, 04:31:18 PM »
That makes sense.

Not really when I reread that as I slaughtered the sentences I tried to separate.  But yeah, why put something on a credit card when you don't have one or want to use one, and don't have access to a XMas account?  Layaway is coming back, and in a big way.

Chuckie screwed millions over with the bank reform, and now he's bitching people aren't using banks, credit cards, etc., to pay for XMas purchases.

Oh yeah--I'd rather give something to the kids on Christmas morning knowing it's paid for and that I won't have to pull my hair out for the next several months juggling bills.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 05:09:21 PM »
A lot of people used to have Christmas Club accounts. I haven't heard of those in many years.

My parent's still have one.  It's at their credit union account.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 05:51:58 PM »
All the major banks here offer them.

FWIW, Scoobie and I used layaway for a couple of larger presents at Wally World.  We wanted to ensure were available yet didn't want/need to put all the money down for all at once.  $5 plus a 10 percent down with the remainder due by December 16th.  Frankly, $5 is a pittance to pay to ensure the stuff I want to get for the kids or we get for each other if we want "big ticket" items is a helluva lot cheaper ($5 of $500 purchases for two months translates to less than 6 percent interest) versus the 18-plus percent interest with payments as far as the eye can see credit cards.

Chuck Schumer is living proof the most dangerous space in America is anyplace between him and a television camera.

This is a jab at Walmart and their layaway policy, nothing more.

Hi 5! Exactly!

Schumer is all about smoke and mirrors....Here is the walmart layaway policy:

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The convenience of Christmas Layaway is now available on eligible toys and electronics that you purchase at your nearby Walmart store. It's easy to take advantage of Christmas Layaway from Oct. 17 until you make your final payment and pick up your items by December 16, 2011. Just place your eligible items on layaway at the Walmart.com desk in your local store, where you will also pick up the items. Each item must be $15 or more and your total purchase must be over $50. There is a $5 service charge, and you can make payments on your Christmas Layaway items at any register in your Walmart store. Christmas Layaway is not offered on Friday, November 25, 2011 and is not offered on wireless phones that require contracts. Cancellation and service fees may vary by state and are non-refundable. Our store associates can provide you with complete details on these fees and any other restrictions that may apply. So get ready for the holidays with the convenience of Christmas Layaway at Walmart stores.

First of all, you lying sack of doo...you have to put at least 50 bucks total on the layaway. That particular Elmo Doll is going for about 40 bucks so just putting that on by itself is NOT going to happen. SECONDLY, dumbass(much like your sycophants on DU i might add), the only non-refundable fee here that does not go towards the costs is the 5 dollar service charge. Last time I checked, that's TEN percent of 50 bucks, so you are only getting charged about 10 percent interest for that purchase if that's all you get. The percentage of that fee's cost drops precipitously the MORE you put on layway ie 100 dollars on layaway is now 5%. You take the full 2 months to pay it off and you are getting even more of a deal on that percentage. Think of that 5 bucks as a storage fee--Walmart often rents units beyond their store capacity to put all those layaways in.

The 10% down, dipshit, goes towards the balance on the account. It's to make sure people aren't just putting crap on layaway just in case and they just let it go. They have money invested so they will either cxl the layaway or pick it up in order to not lose their deposit on those items. It's not some finance fee for purchasing it. The funny thing is you have no problem though with states charging sale's tax that could be hurting the pockets of those poor belabored Walmart shoppers. :whatever:

I plan to use it as well for my youngest's gift: a DS and a couple of games to go with it. That 5% amounts to 2.5% considering the total. I have 3 kids who are almost all too old for 'baby toys' so having this convenience comes in handy to help plan for Christmas. I not only like the financing convenience, but as a mother who has hardly any time without my children being a single parent who works fulltime, I like that I can do all or most of my shopping in ONE day, but pay for it over several weeks without the finance charges of credit cards--it's nice to keep it hidden from the kids too until it's almost that time--they know all my hiding places at home :-).

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 06:38:26 PM »
I mean, c'mon wouldn't it just be easier if the productive people gave away their hard work and just became slaves to those that are unproductive and the dregs of society?

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 06:50:03 PM »
These DUmmies raise holy hell a paying a fee to a private business that they dont have to but chose to do buisness with, and yet are silent on paying taxes to a government who gives them no option but pay up.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 07:18:56 PM »
These DUmmies raise holy hell a paying a fee to a private business that they dont have to but chose to do buisness with, and yet are silent on paying taxes to a government who gives them no option but pay up.

Great premise except DUches don't pay taxes nor contribute to society in any way.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 07:29:14 PM »
I don't understand why the DUmmies are upset anyway.  Don't they all hate Christmas?  If you hate Christmas, and don't celebrate it, then you wouldn't be purchasing gifts. 
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2011, 07:32:12 PM »
I loved layaway when I was younger.  Bought my first leather jacket, with fringe I might add, on layaway at Berman's leather.  $85 whole dollars.  Took me three paychecks. 
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2011, 07:45:54 PM »
I don't understand why the DUmmies are upset anyway.  Don't they all hate Christmas?  If you hate Christmas, and don't celebrate it, then you wouldn't be purchasing gifts. 

Oh, most DUmmies don't have a problem with the gift part of Christmas, they just don't like it when people start talking about the religious aspects...

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2011, 07:50:58 PM »
Lay-a-way is a great deal compared to the "rent to own" places.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2011, 08:36:13 PM »
I might add layaway is good for retail and good for consumers. It's a helpful way to basically extend 'credit' without taking the risks associated with it--on both sides of the equation.
Businesses are smart--they know times are tough credit wise and are offering more creative ways to get consumers to buy. By the same token, consumers can buy while being mindful of their budget(because of the shortened amount of time of repayment with a layaway) and avoiding high finance charges of credit cards. Just a thought.

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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 09:12:00 PM »
I got my first computer on layaway. It was a good price and I knew they would run out of them before I had the money saved up for it. Btw,Chuckie, not all of us have credit cards to add to our personal debt. I dont make the kind of money to shop at the kind of places you do where things like layaway sounds like some odd coustom from a far off backwards land. Elitist ass.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2011, 05:14:00 AM »
I guess those dumbass Yankees like to be bossed around while getting ****ed in the ass.

Go play in traffic, Chuck.

Hey! I never voted for chuck u. In fact I actively campaign against him and my asshole Congressman and neighbor hinchey.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2011, 07:39:42 AM »

Hey! I never voted for chuck u. In fact I actively campaign against him and my asshole Congressman and neighbor hinchey.

Same here about Schmucky.  My Congressman is Chris Gibson, though.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2011, 07:46:19 AM »
I might add layaway is good for retail and good for consumers. It's a helpful way to basically extend 'credit' without taking the risks associated with it--on both sides of the equation.
Businesses are smart--they know times are tough credit wise and are offering more creative ways to get consumers to buy. By the same token, consumers can buy while being mindful of their budget(because of the shortened amount of time of repayment with a layaway) and avoiding high finance charges of credit cards. Just a thought.

Tots--my first purchase evah was a layaway I did on a framed Nagel print :-) Aaaahh, the 80's :-)

I woulda looked real cute in my leather jacket, in your living room, looking at your Nagel print and sipping a Bartles and Jaymes.
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Re: The Evils of Layaway
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2011, 08:19:33 AM »
I woulda looked real cute in my leather jacket, in your living room, looking at your Nagel print and sipping a Bartles and Jaymes.

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2011, 08:30:43 AM »
R.I.P. LC and Crockspot.  Miss you guys.

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