DUchebags on Tx Judge spanking

[MoshMasterD]

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Texas judge confirms video of him beating daughter, says 'I lost my temper'
   
Source: CNN

Dallas (CNN) -- A Texas judge faces a police investigation and judicial probe after a video showing him beating his then-16-year-old disabled daughter was posted on the Internet.

The graphic video drew international outrage after it was posted by a woman who said she was the victim of the beating seven years ago -- and that her parents, including her father, Aransas County, Texas, Court-At-Law Judge William Adams -- were the ones seen beating and cursing at her in the video.

On Wednesday afternoon, Judge Adams was temporarily relieved of his duties for the next two weeks, and a visiting judge will take over his caseload while the matter is being investigated, according to the office of Aransas County Administrative Judge Burt Mills.

No court dates were scheduled this week, Mills' office said.

In an interview with KZTV outside his Rockport, Texas, home Wednesday, Adams confirmed to a reporter that he was the man beating his daughter with a belt and a board on the video, taped in 2004.

"She's mad because I've ordered her to bring the car back, in a nutshell, but yeah, that's me. I lost my temper," Adams told the TV station. "Her mother was there, she wasn't hurt ... it was a long time ago ... I really don't want to get into this right now because as you can see my life's been made very difficult over this child."



Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justice/texas-video-beati...


This man should lose his job, effective immediately. Anything other than that is an outreageous miscarriage of justice. He should also be tried for child abuse.

Warning: The video is very graphic and disturbing.

Did he lose it, yes he did.  Did he overdo it, yes he did.  Was it legal for him to do what he did?  YES IT IS!  It is turning out that most people have forgotten that some states have a "woodshed" regulation.  Mostly southern states, don't know about the rest.  I saw the video.  It was disturbing, but he knew how to corporal discipline his child.  He kept it on the bottom, and whenever she got lashed in the arm, it was resistance (aka she blocked), thus still legal.  I have been on too many occasions, personally, on the receiving end of that very same thing.  It's definitely no fun, but the parents have that legal right to discipline that way depending on state law.  It pisses me off that no one sees the other side, and the legalities of those types of punishments in the states.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Did he lose it, yes he did.  Did he overdo it, yes he did.  Was it legal for him to do what he did?  YES IT IS!  It is turning out that most people have forgotten that some states have a "woodshed" regulation.  Mostly southern states, don't know about the rest.  I saw the video.  It was disturbing, but he knew how to corporal discipline his child.  He kept it on the bottom, and whenever she got lashed in the arm, it was resistance (aka she blocked), thus still legal.  I have been on too many occasions, personally, on the receiving end of that very same thing.  It's definitely no fun, but the parents have that legal right to discipline that way depending on state law.  It pisses me off that no one sees the other side, and the legalities of those types of punishments in the states.

It was excessive for what i understand she did. What he was saying to her while he was spanking her was a bit out of bounds too. I too came from a home where you got your ass whipped for messing up...Only my dad would punch you and slap you around.

[BEG]

I was horrified by it.

[cmypay]

I think he crossed the line. Yes, Texas allows for corporal punishment of a child; however, 17 lashings with a belt? Also, agree with Toasted re what he was saying. I think, for me, the most horrifying part of this whole incident is that this man sits in judgement of other parents, deciding if they are fit to raise their own children. It would be interesting to see how many times he has terminated or otherwise limited the parental rights of other parents who have done something similar.

I understand that while there will never be criminal charges brought (statute of limitations) and maybe are not even appropriate to the situation, social services is investigating because there is another minor child under his care and custody, at least part time.

[NHSparky]

Sorry, but 16 is WAY too old for corporal punishment, and that wasn't punishment, it was a flat out beating.  Not called for at all.

That being said, stealing IS wrong, and lying and thievery are my two biggest issues when dealing with kids (or anyone else) but he was way over the line.  He could have dealt with it far better than he did.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

The other thing that disturbs me is from what i understand the girl suffered from CP as well! Great! So you probably get made fun of at school and whenever you screw up at home you get this! ugh! Life really sucks sometimes!

[mamacags]

I am all for beating a kid's hiney when they need it.  This was abuse though.  It made me sick to watch and I had to turn it off.  There is NO reason to go that far.

[MoshMasterD]

Time to clear up a few things


I never said it was good, I said it was legal.  He hit the right area.  But this could bring change in Corporal Punishment laws throughout the country, and those who were brought up in sanely God fearing strict families are not gonna like it one bit.

Sorry, but 16 is WAY too old for corporal punishment, and that wasn't punishment, it was a flat out beating.  Not called for at all.

That being said, stealing IS wrong, and lying and thievery are my two biggest issues when dealing with kids (or anyone else) but he was way over the line.  He could have dealt with it far better than he did.

I think he crossed the line. Yes, Texas allows for corporal punishment of a child; however, 17 lashings with a belt? Also, agree with Toasted re what he was saying. I think, for me, the most horrifying part of this whole incident is that this man sits in judgement of other parents, deciding if they are fit to raise their own children. It would be interesting to see how many times he has terminated or otherwise limited the parental rights of other parents who have done something similar.

I understand that while there will never be criminal charges brought (statute of limitations) and maybe are not even appropriate to the situation, social services is investigating because there is another minor child under his care and custody, at least part time.

By law Corporal Punishment can only be used on minors, 16 year olds are minors.  I got lashed 20X at 17.  My brother got the paddle at school at 14.  Doesn't matter, if you live under their roof, they can run the house however they legally see fit.

The other thing that disturbs me is from what i understand the girl suffered from CP as well! Great! So you probably get made fun of at school and whenever you screw up at home you get this! ugh! Life really sucks sometimes!

As for cerebral palsy, that disability deals with motor skills, not a mental deterioration or retardation.  I saw news spots of the girl today being interviewed and walking, you can't tell she has it.  But I do believe she does. 


His words used were most definitely WAY OUTTA LINE!  Even when I was spanked at 17, I was screamed at, but not denigrated with cuss words. 

[Gina]

I am sorry.  I have been given belt whippings in my life and I have belt whipped my son.  I have never done what that piece of shit so called man did.  You don't hit your child like that and it not be called abuse.  You don't come back for second's saying "I didn't get my lick". 

That flucker needs to be flucked up with a belt.  He not only physically abused her he mentally abused her. 

If my husband EVER touched my child that way he would not only be limping, he wouldn't have a wife. 

I cried seeing that kid get hit on the legs and arm like she did.  I am all about giving some spankings to discipline but I am not about beating a kid.

AND he didn't hit the right area.  He hit her arms, he hit her lower legs and upper legs.  You pop the kid on the buttocks.  You don't do what he did. 

Did he even say he loved her afterward or give her a hug?      I always reassure my kids after spanking that I love them and want them to be good.

[Gina]

There is another side of this that I haven't confirmed yet but heard.  Some wondered why she waited 7 years to release it and I have seen about that her dad cut her off of money and she basically was extorting money from him with the tape.

If that is true, I hope she gets some jail time.

[Erasmus]

If more parents spanked their kids, the world would be a better place.  Hell, DU might not even exist.

[MoshMasterD]

I am sorry.  I have been given belt whippings in my life and I have belt whipped my son.  I have never done what that piece of shit so called man did.  You don't hit your child like that and it not be called abuse.  You don't come back for second's saying "I didn't get my lick". 

That flucker needs to be flucked up with a belt.  He not only physically abused her he mentally abused her. 

If my husband EVER touched my child that way he would not only be limping, he wouldn't have a wife. 

I cried seeing that kid get hit on the legs and arm like she did.  I am all about giving some spankings to discipline but I am not about beating a kid.

AND he didn't hit the right area.  He hit her arms, he hit her lower legs and upper legs.  You pop the kid on the buttocks.  You don't do what he did. 

Did he even say he loved her afterward or give her a hug?      I always reassure my kids after spanking that I love them and want them to be good.

As I said, I never said it was good, but it was legal.  She got hit in the arms when she was blocking.

[Gina]

As I said, I never said it was good, but it was legal.  She got hit in the arms when she was blocking.

That's called self defense.

[Gina]

If more parents spanked their kids, the world would be a better place.  Hell, DU might not even exist.

You are right.  Very true.  I actually thought the other day that maybe I didn't get my son's ass enough since he is starting to back talk. 

[MoshMasterD]

You are right.  Very true.  I actually thought the other day that maybe I didn't get my son's ass enough since he is starting to back talk. 

Ya know back in the day of the woodshed, parents use to soak switches and yardsticks in water in case of their child is in need of a spanking.

[Gina]

Ya know back in the day of the woodshed, parents use to soak switches and yardsticks in water in case of their child is in need of a spanking.

I know.  My mom tells me stories of her grandmother telling her to go find a switch and bring it back to her.  She would go find the smallest one  That only led to more licks 

[MoshMasterD]

I know.  My mom tells me stories of her grandmother telling her to go find a switch and bring it back to her.  She would go find the smallest one  That only led to more licks 

I'll tell ya one thing, there are no worse feeling of getting spanked, for me, was a ping pong paddle.  I had to sleep on my stomach for the night after that.

[Erasmus]

You are right.  Very true.  I actually thought the other day that maybe I didn't get my son's ass enough since he is starting to back talk.  

Well, you could do what my grandmother did.  She never spanked, as she didn't believe children were ever "bad".  Children were only "sick" and in need of a tablespoon of caster oil or so.  Any time we acted up, grandmother would always say that we must be feeling bad, and she'd head for the caster oil.  

My mother, on the other hand, is a spanking ninja.  At any moment, she could identify at least 5 items within arms reach that were suitable for use in spanking.  Fly swatters, belts, shoes, flip flops, newspapers, yard sticks. 

[Gina]

Well, you could do what my grandmother did.  She never spanked, as she didn't believe children were ever "bad".  Children were only "sick" and in need of a tablespoon of caster oil or so.  Any time we acted up, grandmother would always say that we must be feeling bad, and she'd head for the caster oil. 

With a 1 and 2 yr old that shits non stop, I don't need my 11yr old filling his drawers.   

[Airwolf]

leagle or not you don't beat a 16 year old child for downloading stuff online unless its more then music or videos . Even then the answer should have been to take the computer away for x number of days and keep them home till they learn the lesson that the parent should have been trying to teach.

[BlueStateSaint]

There is another side of this that I haven't confirmed yet but heard.  Some wondered why she waited 7 years to release it and I have seen about that her dad cut her off of money and she basically was extorting money from him with the tape.

If that is true, I hope she gets some jail time.

I've also heard this.  Something about grades not being high enough, and taking a Mercedes away, and how the dad "would pay."

[Erasmus]

I've also heard this.  Something about grades not being high enough, and taking a Mercedes away, and how the dad "would pay."

Genius.  Get her dad in trouble so that he loses his job, and the Mercedes probably goes back to the bank anyway. 

[FreeBorn]

Spanking is one thing and there is a limited window for that. If you find yourself spanking a child past the age of three or four you have missed the boat on achieving anything positive with it. I am talking about a swat with an open hand on the backside to get a rambunctious child's attention and assert who is in charge.

This video is way beyond that. This is NOT "corporal punishment", this is criminally psychotic abuse, period.

This man has no business sitting on a bench anywhere, ESPECIALLY as a family court justice. He is a POS, an absolute failure as a parent.

[IassaFTots]

My mother, on the other hand, is a spanking ninja.  At any moment, she could identify at least 5 items within arms reach that were suitable for use in spanking.  Fly swatters, belts, shoes, flip flops, newspapers, yard sticks. 

You forgot wooden spoons.   

Are you my brother?????

[cmypay]

Genius.  Get her dad in trouble so that he loses his job, and the Mercedes probably goes back to the bank anyway.  

And she could very well be facing extortion charges.

This man has no business sitting on a bench anywhere, ESPECIALLY as a family court justice. He is a POS, an absolute failure as a parent.

I am concerned because there is another child involved. According to a news report I read this morning, the parents divorced 4 years ago and there was a 10 year old girl that they have joint custody of, making her a teen now.

I am also wondering about the mother. I think it's a cop-out for her to be saying she was mind washed and just did everything he told her to. She, at one point in the video, actively participated in hitting the girl with the belt.