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Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« on: November 03, 2011, 09:00:55 PM »
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pnwmom (1000+ posts)           Thu Nov-03-11 03:59 PM
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Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
   

 
I hope they succeed. If they don't, the could quickly lose support of many in the community who are otherwise on their side.

http://www.mercurynews.com/occupy-oakland/ci_19255461


12:30 p.m. Anti-vandalism proposal to go to full camp meeting

Campers have reached an anti-vandalism consensus and will likely return to how to stop the vandals at tonight's 6 p.m. general assembly for a vote. They are currently voting on when/how to apologize to business owners.

Milani, a camper who did not want to give a last name, spoke against apologizing to businesses. She said it wasn't just outsiders committing vandalism.

"The person I saw putting toilet paper up, they're a facilitator at the general assembly. The person spray painting, they're on the events committee."

Another camper disagreed, and proposed starting a "good neighbor" committee

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2236956

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Auggie   (1000+ posts)           Thu Nov-03-11 04:05 PM
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1. Turn them over the cops
   

Then you can bitch that the police brutalized them.  :whatever:

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meow2u3   (1000+ posts)             Thu Nov-03-11 04:06 PM
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2. Simple: pressure the PTB to quit planting agents provocateurs
   
Edited on Thu Nov-03-11 04:07 PM by meow2u3
That'll solve the vandalism problem in no time.

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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts)             Thu Nov-03-11 04:24 PM
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5. Interesting chain of events
   
Cops brutalize protesters.

They're ordered to stop, citing that no laws are being broken.

Bang! All of a sudden, laws start being broken.

It's obvious what they're doing.

 :whatever:

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MrSlayer   (1000+ posts)           Thu Nov-03-11 09:30 PM
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11. Citizen's arrests and handover to police.
   
It's odd how there are never any police around when these guys do their destructive bullshit. Film them doing it, detain them for doing it, hand them and the videos over to the cops. Problem solved.

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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts)             Thu Nov-03-11 09:57 PM
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12. I think we need to put vandalism in perspective. After all, pre-Revolutionary War
   
activists were notorious vandals.

See: Son of Liberty (purported to have been started by Samuel Adams). They met under the cover of darkness to plot their actions...They tore down houses, started fires, threw bricks, publicly hounded and humiliated tax collectors & businessmen, incited a shoot out, tarred & feathered and destroyed property on privately owned ships.

I find the Black Bloc glass breaking tactics an annoyance when it interferes with peaceful actions. I think that they are cowards for only showing themselves under cover of other movements. In the 60s, organizations like The Weathermen were not parasites on non-violent organizations.

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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 11:24:06 PM »
A good 'ol fashioned ass whoopin' could cure what ails them.


Well, maybe not, but it would make SOMEBODY feel better.
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 12:05:10 AM »
Stop lying about causing the damage and start acting like human beings would be a good start.
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 05:45:02 AM »
Treat them the same as the destructive Tea Partiers were treated.  Oh, wait... :rotf:
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 07:34:15 AM »
Every other phrase over there is "agent provocateurs," and I'm sick of it.  It's not flying DUmmies, you own all of this.  A conservative is not likely to go undercover and throw bricks into businesses.  It's not in his makeup.  I could never vandalize someone's personal property, no matter how much I want to make you look bad.  I respect other people's stuff. 

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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 08:00:13 AM »
Quote from: Karin on November 04, 2011, 07:34:15 AM
Every other phrase over there is "agent provocateurs," and I'm sick of it.  It's not flying DUmmies, you own all of this.  A conservative is not likely to go undercover and throw bricks into businesses.  It's not in his makeup.  I could never vandalize someone's personal property, no matter how much I want to make you look bad.  I respect other people's stuff. 



If by "agent provocateurs" they mean people who are going to expose the disgusting shit they do, then yeah, guilty as charged, DUmmies.

Sorry, all the shit that's been happening is all on your side of the house.  Deal with it.
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 08:37:10 AM »
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 10:23:53 AM »
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11. Citizen's arrests and handover to police.
   
It's odd how there are never any police around when these guys do their destructive bullshit. Film them doing it, detain them for doing it, hand them and the videos over to the cops. Problem solved.

 :rotf:

Don't you think the anarchists and assorted criminals are smart enough to wait until there aren't any cops in sight, you stupid tool?
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 12:57:13 PM »
What sprang to mind was Goober yelling "CITIZENS' ARREST!  CITIZENS ARREST!  CITIZENS' ARREST" at Barney.  One the funniest episodes. 
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 01:34:37 PM »
Quote from: Karin on November 04, 2011, 12:57:13 PM
What sprang to mind was Goober yelling "CITIZENS' ARREST!  CITIZENS ARREST!  CITIZENS' ARREST" at Barney.  One the funniest episodes. 

No, that would be Goober's rope-sucking brother Gomer.

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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 03:33:15 PM »
They did it they should own up tp it. Then again they wouldn't be usefull idiots if they did.
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Re: Occupy Oakland is trying to figure out how to deal with destructive vandalism
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 07:07:54 PM »
Then again, what the hell do they ever own up to?

I suppose they take credit for Obama's presidencytakeover, but only when it suits their agenda.
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