Anarchists get down twinkles in Oakland.

[Freeper]

robdogbucky   (1000+ posts)             Thu Nov-03-11 02:39 PM
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Oakland: Tent city to address topic of destructive anarchists
   

 

Occupy Oakland Live Blog: Tent city to address topic of destructive anarchists
Oakland Tribune

Posted: 11/03/2011 07:36:22 AM PDT
Updated: 11/03/2011 10:40:08 AM PDT


10:20 a.m. Tent city to talk about destructive anarchists

The campers will be discussing at their morning meeting how to keep out the destructive anarchist element.

"It's not us, it's a bunch of guys who wear black masks," said Michael Porter, 24, who works full-time selling DirectTV and has been camping at the Occupy Oakland site. "It's messing with our movement. They leech off our numbers -- they only show up when there's a rally."

Porter will be leading a discussion at the meeting starting soon.

"There's a handful of us trying to confront them but they just gang up on you..."

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19255461

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2236371

I'm sure they are shacking in their boots. 

Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts)             Thu Nov-03-11 02:47 PM
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1. They leech off our numbers -- they only show up when there's a rally."
   
Right on the money. It is the very same situation in SF. I have seen them show up for anti-war rallies, pro-choice rallies, pro-tenant rallies -- the matter being acted on is meaningless to them, only the opportunity to confront the police and break some windows is all that matters to this asshats.

Good on Oakland for taking some action.

The leechers are getting leeched. 

butterfly77   (1000+ posts)         Thu Nov-03-11 03:19 PM
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5. I wouldn't put it past..
   
the teabagging republiCONS to send in the clowns,they think that this will stop the movement if anything it will make it bigger,and the majority is not on their side.

Yep the tea party is behind it. 

Leopolds Ghost   (1000+ posts)           Thu Nov-03-11 04:27 PM
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6. The OWS movement is anarchist in form and function.
   
You don't seem to know what anarchism refers to. "Destructive anarchists" = typical media rhetoric.

Anarchism is a term for left libertarianism, i.e. people who believe in the elimination
of authoritarian forms of governance and its replacement with direct democracy.

Also, if there was an anarchist black bloc, you would have heard from them.

To the best of my limited knowledge, these folks are not black bloc in any organized sense.

They are not agents provocateurs, they are simply angry kids.

If the economy gets worse, you can expect to see more of them like they have on the streets
of every other country in the world that experiences actual economic unrest that we are just
barely feeling at the present time.

Tl;dr: stop scapegoating anarchists and dividing the movement.

In other words just start breaking shit. 

I love how they claim that every act of violence can't possibly be done by the people who want to eat the rich and bring back the guillotine.

[Rugnuts]

[DumbAss Tanker]

First they said the homeless were not of the 99%, and I said nothing, for I was not homeless.

Then they said the anarchists were not of the 99%, and I said nothing, for I was not an anarchist.

Then they said I was not of the 99% and there was nobody left to speak for me...

 


 

...And if anyone likes that, feel free to steal it and play with it to your heart's content!

 

[wasp69]

Can someone please tell me what "twinkles" are?

[Rebel]

Can someone please tell me what "twinkles" are?

Food Lion's generic version of Twinkies?

[Karin]

It's those hand gestures shown in post 2.  It's supposed to replace clapping, so that others' voices aren't drowned out.  Super ghey. 

[wasp69]

It's those hand gestures shown in post 2.  It's supposed to replace clapping, so that others' voices aren't drowned out.  Super ghey. 

Oy vey....

 

Thanks for the enlightenment.  Just another reason to despise these douches.

[Ballygrl]

Has anyone seen this? do these people actually think their movement is gaining steam? they're a laughingstock! can you imagine these meetings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_hand_signals

Occupy Hand Signals are a group of hand signals used by Occupy Wall Street protesters to negotiate a consensus.[1] [2][3] The hand signals include:

Up Twinkles or simply Twinkles are both hands raised with fingers pointing up and being wiggled. Twinkles indicates agreement with what's being said.

Down Twinkles are arms raised but showing the back of both hands with fingers pointing down and wiggling. Down twinkles indicate disagreement with what's being said.

Direct Response is both hands moving alternately front to back on each side of the head and directed at an individual. Direct Response indicates that there was critical information that was missing from something that was just said.

Clarifying Question is a single hand formed in the shape of a C. Clarifying Question means that someone has a question that needs to be answered before that person can vote on an issue.

Point of Process is a triangle formed by two hands with the index fingers touching and the thumbs touching to form a triangle shape. Point of Process means that the conversation has gotten off of the original topic.

Wrap It Up is both hand moved in a circular motion about each other. It means the speaker should make his or her points and finish speaking.

Raise The Roof is both hands with palms facing up being moved up and down above shoulder level. Raise The Roof means speak up.

[youtube=425,350]u4q-85LD4Hk[/youtube]

And you've got to see this video at the link below, you know your movement sucks if even the lefty Colbert mocks it, here's a hand signal segment, it starts around the 2:00 mark:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/401092/october-31-2011/colbert-super-pac---occupy-wall-street-co-optportunity---stephen-on-location

[Ballygrl]

That thread at DU is saying the Anarchist's are Conservatives infiltrating the group? seriously? they can't face the fact that their ideology is always violent.

[wasp69]

Has anyone seen this? do these people actually think their movement is gaining steam? they're a laughingstock! can you imagine these meetings?

Holy crap!  These fools never progressed past kindergarten, did they?

[IassaFTots]

Down Twinkles???   Oh hell.   

[MoshMasterD]

Here's a funny thought, give the Anarchist left M-16s and see what they can do.

[Karin]

Ballygrl, I read your wiki post and did an actual face palm.  Stupidest thing I've ever seen.  Are they going to have secret decoder rings next? 

I heard a clip from the Atlanta loons (the chanting repeaters), and some people started to clap, prompting someone up front to yell at them "NO NO!!  We don't do that!  Use the twinkles!"  Fascists. 

[JohnnyReb]

So, what do you do if you've been a muslim country and they cut off your fingers?

[Erasmus]

Once again, liberal math fails to live up....

Obviously these anarchists aren't part of the 1%, since they protest the 1% every time there's a G20 summit.  But here's yet another group that is likewise NOT an accepted part of the "99%".  I just cannot follow the math here.

Homeless people aren't part of the 99%.
Rapists aren't part of the 99%.
Anarchists aren't part of the 99%.
New York OWS kitchen staff aren't really part of the 99%.
None of the above are part of the 1%, either.

Who named this movement again?
 

[Ballygrl]

Holy crap!  These fools never progressed past kindergarten, did they?

Up Twinkles!

[Ballygrl]

Ballygrl, I read your wiki post and did an actual face palm.  Stupidest thing I've ever seen.  Are they going to have secret decoder rings next? 

I heard a clip from the Atlanta loons (the chanting repeaters), and some people started to clap, prompting someone up front to yell at them "NO NO!!  We don't do that!  Use the twinkles!"  Fascists.

When you get a chance watch the Colbert video and watch the hand signals, BTW the girl in the video is named Ketchup! yes, that's her name.

[Ballygrl]

So, what do you do if you've been a muslim country and they cut off your fingers?

[Ballygrl]

Here's the visual for all the hand signals, there's a few out there on youtube, the responses on various videos are

[youtube=425,350]R2yYiULZ0hA[/youtube]

[Chris_]

They're so serious about their little protests.

[Ballygrl]

They're so serious about their little protests.

And an Up Twinkle for you!

Too bad we can't change Hi5's and Bitchslaps to Up Twinkles and Down Twinkles!

[Chris_]

And an Up Twinkle for you!

Too bad we can't change Hi5's and Bitchslaps to Up Twinkles and Down Twinkles!

Who says we can't?

[Karin]

I went over and watch that, Ballygrl.  Pretty funny.  Ketchup.  What an annoying person.  Then I read the comments.  Many of them said "what an embarrassment, what a stupid movement, they look like they're in kindergarten."  The OWSies themselves make huge, long, one paragraph un-readable posts that you just skim over.  Then, this one caught my eye:

Vote Down
glhall1960 commented | 3 days ago
Steven Colbert, though he claims to be a comedian, should be lynched in the most excruciating way possible for what he is doing to the OWS movement. It's bad enough the movement is having to fight corporate propaganda, he takes it to a new, horrifying low.

 Wow!  Not too violent, are we?  

P.S.  We're not changing our bitchslaps to down twinkles.     Just no. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

P.S.  We're not changing our bitchslaps to down twinkles.     Just no. 

Seconded!

[IassaFTots]

I wonder what the anarchists are saying about their down twinkles??