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Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« on: November 02, 2011, 05:58:11 PM »
A lot of the DUmmies have this guy as their avatar and they are planing the bank thing on Nov 5th based on this guy.
What they probably don't know is, he was a Catholic fighting for a theocracy in England. I know they don't care that he was a terrorist, but his being a "fundy" could cause them some grief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 06:00:36 PM »
Yeah, my good ol' co-religionist, the fervently Roman Catholic Guy Fawkes.

Primitives don't know shit about history.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 06:03:15 PM »
They value his embrace of terrorism and murder to achieve his goals. Like Che, the details don't count, just an icon to justify violence and revolution.

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 06:03:52 PM »
Yeah, my good ol' co-religionist, the fervently Roman Catholic Guy Fawkes.

Primitives don't know shit about history.

That is true, they use the French Revolution as inspiration, and we all know how wonderful that turned out.  :rotf:
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 06:04:45 PM »
They value his embrace of terrorism and murder to achieve his goals. Like Che, the details don't count, just an icon to justify violence and revolution.

It's funny how many murdering assholes from history they look up too.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 06:07:15 PM »
It's funny how many murdering assholes from history they look up too.

.....and how woefully ignorant the primitives are, about the fates of their heroes.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2011, 06:08:24 PM »
.....and how woefully ignorant the primitives are, about the fates of their heroes.

They are ignorant on every level.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 06:28:38 PM »
I would call it P for Propaganda.  DUmmies live vicarious lives based on the portrayals of rich Hollywierd stars.  Gina actually pointed it out on the Kentuck agrarian reform thread.   

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2011, 06:42:45 PM »
Americans don't seem to realize that Guy Fawkes is not being celebrated on Guy Fawkes day. That is a day set aside to burn him in effigy and celebate his failure. Little kids would go door to door asking for a penny for the Guy so they could make a Guy dummy to burn on the bonfires.

All most Americans know about him is that they used a mask of him in Alan Moore's V for Vendetta. Not sure why a anarchist, communist, wizard like Moore ( yes he calls him self all those things with a straight face ) would choose Fawkes as a symbol when you consider that the Catholic church is pretty much against all the things he is for.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2011, 06:50:47 PM »
huh.....I always thought Guy Fawkes day was November 5 or is it the 4th??

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2011, 07:06:03 PM »
huh.....I always thought Guy Fawkes day was November 5 or is it the 4th??

Dammnit i should know this shit!!

As children are apt to forget to remember, Guy Fawkes day is the 5 of November.  :-)

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2011, 08:02:29 PM »
Yeah, my good ol' co-religionist, the fervently Roman Catholic Guy Fawkes.

Primitives don't know shit about history.

They have based their knowledge of Fawkes on a fictional movie. They prefer that message, so that is all they need to know.

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 08:14:21 PM »
id have to watch it again but i thought the main character used guy fawkes to identify with, while he was convincing natalie portman to pull the trigger, so to speak, in the  terrorist explosion (on fawkes day) to stop a totalitarian fascist govt to free the people from the tryanny????? (he had a reason for revenge, the whole burn thing)
remember remember the 5th of november

at least thats what i got from V for vendetta,


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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 03:20:22 AM »
Yeah, my good ol' co-religionist, the fervently Roman Catholic Guy Fawkes.

Primitives don't know shit about history.

Primitives don't know shit, period.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 09:08:03 AM »
For those who still don't get it may I offer a choice example of propaganda from the thirties:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvdtp4AqiZg[/youtube]

For those who have seen V for Vendetta, how many agenda items can you identify?   Today's poorly educated skulls full of mush aren't educated they are indoctrinated.  Indoctrinated by Hollywierd.  McCarthy and Reagan both identified the red menace that exists in Hollywierd and were marginalized for doing so.  The left owns the  media and the message, movies are their favorite medium to indoctrinate.   

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 09:40:02 AM »
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I am currently watching V for Vendetta.   


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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 09:43:10 AM »
.....and how woefully ignorant the primitives are, about the fates of their heroes.

All they know is Che was killed by the CIA and that's all they need to know to idolize him.


id have to watch it again but i thought the main character used guy fawkes to identify with, while he was convincing natalie portman to pull the trigger, so to speak, in the  terrorist explosion (on fawkes day) to stop a totalitarian fascist govt to free the people from the tryanny????? (he had a reason for revenge, the whole burn thing)
remember remember the 5th of november

at least thats what i got from V for vendetta,

Well, supposedly what V's problem centered on a government that imprisoned people without due process and horribly brutalized them in an effort to affect some private agenda...

...

...and to this end V goes out and kidnaps Portman's character and waterboards her until she becomes his personal pawn.

So apparently extremism, extra-judicial punishment, torture, warrantless seizures, false imprisonment, indoctrination, unilateral autocracy, undeclared war, no electoral accountability, no separation of powers is OK so long as you wear a creepy mask and you can brainwash  hawt chicks.

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 09:55:50 AM »
A lot of the DUmmies have this guy as their avatar and they are planing the bank thing on Nov 5th based on this guy.
What they probably don't know is, he was a Catholic fighting for a theocracy in England. I know they don't care that he was a terrorist, but his being a "fundy" could cause them some grief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

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I'm not 99% on this but I think the term fundy is used for evangelical Protestants and Catholics. Althought libs have a few choice monikers for Catholics too.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 09:58:12 AM »
So apparently extremism, extra-judicial punishment, torture, warrant-less seizures, false imprisonment, indoctrination, unilateral autocracy, undeclared war, no electoral accountability, no separation of powers is OK.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 10:16:17 AM »
Just a couple of historical comments:

Triumph of the Will truly is a masterpiece of propaganda, the benchmark against which all other propaganda must be judged and nearly always found wanting in comparison.  In cultural context, it puts Roosevelt's New Deal propagando films and Capra's 'Why We Fight' movies in the shade.  People viewing it today actually have no idea how effective it was, since they don't understand just how far Germany had fallen in the two post-WW1 crashes; the active, enthusiastic Hitler Youth kids in the film look like cute but brainwashed kids to a modern viewer, who does not understand the fact that they looked well-fed, well-dressed, and healthy was hugely significant to the audience for which the movie was intended.

You can look at Guy Fawkes as fighting for a Catholic theocracy, but at the same time he was fighting against a Protestant theocracy which was no better, just mutually oppressive, and whichever one was the evil oppressor simply  depended on whose turn it was to wear the ass-kicking boot.  The English legacy of pointless bloodshed, waste, and oppression of the out-of-power religion from Henry VIII onward is the biggest single reason we have First Amendment.   
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 02:13:54 PM »
A lot of the DUmmies have this guy as their avatar and they are planing the bank thing on Nov 5th based on this guy.
What they probably don't know is, he was a Catholic fighting for a theocracy in England. I know they don't care that he was a terrorist, but his being a "fundy" could cause them some grief.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

That's part of what made the asinine propaganda film 'V for Vendetta' so funny: The movie portrays a Catholic- run theocracy as the most evil and tyrannical form of government imaginable, but that was exactly the form of government that the real Guy Fawkes desired!
The more angering part of its propaganda was portraying him as a harmless activist who wanted to blow up Parliament in the middle of the night as a harmless political statement, when in real life, he wanted to blow it up in the middle of the day as a way to assassinate the Protestant King James I and all the members of both houses of Parliament all at once to bring about his aforementioned Catholic theocracy.
There's a reason why in real life, many Brits celebrate Guy Fawkes Day by burning him in effigy.
btw, what "Bank thing" are you referring to?

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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 04:23:51 PM »
I'm not 99% on this but I think the term fundy is used for evangelical Protestants and Catholics. Althought libs have a few choice monikers for Catholics too.

To the DUmmies anyone who believes in the sky daddy is a fundy.
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Re: Some interesting things on the left's hero Guy Fawkes
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2011, 04:25:02 PM »
That's part of what made the asinine propaganda film 'V for Vendetta' so funny: The movie portrays a Catholic- run theocracy as the most evil and tyrannical form of government imaginable, but that was exactly the form of government that the real Guy Fawkes desired!
The more angering part of its propaganda was portraying him as a harmless activist who wanted to blow up Parliament in the middle of the night as a harmless political statement, when in real life, he wanted to blow it up in the middle of the day as a way to assassinate the Protestant King James I and all the members of both houses of Parliament all at once to bring about his aforementioned Catholic theocracy.
There's a reason why in real life, many Brits celebrate Guy Fawkes Day by burning him in effigy.
btw, what "Bank thing" are you referring to?

On Nov 5th all the moonbats in the world plan on closing their accounts with banks and moving their $3.75 to credit unions.
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