Anybody else here have experience with LSD?

[Carl]

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OffWithTheirHeads  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-28-11 11:43 PM
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Anybody else here have experience with LSD?
 Did it change the way you think? I for one, have never been the same. I bring this up because Bill Maher brought it up tonoight and I realised that, even though it has been over 40 years since I have indulged in that particular substance, it changed who I am. To this day, I see a bigger picture than most of the people around me. I just wonder how many people feel a similar experience?
 

Anyone want to guess what the responses are?

gateley  (1000+ posts)      Fri Oct-28-11 11:48 PM
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2. I took a LOT of it, and all I did was get high. nt

PETRUS  (726 posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 12:09 AM
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20. I'm prepared to believe you're right.
 I think it probably changed me, too. I just don't know how to be certain. And I thought it was worth mentioning that some studies think the effect IS positive.

Blue_In_AK  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-28-11 11:51 PM
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5. Absolutely it changed the way I think,
 which is a good thing, in my opinion. I'm a huge fan.  

RoccoR5955  (1000+ posts)        Fri Oct-28-11 11:54 PM
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6. where do i start?
 Well let's just say that it opened a whole other reality for me.
we got the good stuff from a reputable lab back in the day, not the crap that was cut with all sorts of stuff, and it was intense.
Other psychedelics were similar, but none as intense as the pure, clear LSD-25.
And let me tell you, I did all kinds of psychedelics, in all different environments.

Bennyboy (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 12:01 AM
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12. Life changing for me (sometimes)
 And others just a good time. people ask me why I think they way I do (deeply) and I now that it is the LSD that opened the door for me to think outside, around, over, under and through the box. Still take it and probably will til I die, at least once a year just to blow the old pipes out you know.

I prefer Mushrooms however and take them sort of regularly. And I cannot possibly tell you the deeply spiritual things that happen then.

Zorra  (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 12:04 AM
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16. Yeah.  
 Lots. Yes, it, and other reality altering substances, changed my perspective considerably.

Interesting stuff. It was really good for me.

 

tridim  (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 12:17 AM
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27. I tried it about 6 times in college, it taught me a lot about life and creativity
 I'm not sure it changed me, but it certainly gave me a big kick start. It definitely sticks with you later in life, in a good way. I sometimes think about it while writing music, it breaks creative barriers.

flamingdem (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 12:31 AM
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34. I think it allows one to desconstruct social reality
 combine that with the readings of anthropologist Lorne Eisley and you'll move to a yurt.

  

Then later you'll work to change society because what is behind the veil is truly worthwhile.
 

FarLeftFist (1000+ posts)       Sat Oct-29-11 12:47 AM
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44. Took it. Loved it. Took it again. Completely opened my mind forever.

NBachers  (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 12:53 AM
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45. Sure, I spend my days in the self-imposed template of physical reality by necessity
 Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 12:56 AM by NBachers
but I'm always aware of the remaining dimensions just beyond the borders of this template.

The template is self-imposed because I have a tendency to float off into the other non-workaday dimensions. It's fun, pleasant, and educational, but for me, it gets in the way of the "carrying water" behavior of the physical realm we've agreed to exist in at this point.

I can't drop any more. I get hung up on all the things I'm supposed to have done that I haven't.

But I'm still happy to acknowledge the part of myself that exists beyond the 3.3 dimension game board we're playing on.

So, yeah, my perspective is altered always and evermore.

 

Withywindle  (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 01:52 AM
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60. Yes, lots.
 When I was in college in the late 80s/early 90s. So of course I didn't have the mythical "good stuff" that people who were young in the 60s wax poetic about, but still, even the weaker version that I used in my late teens and early 20s was still pretty ******* amazing.

I feel lucky because (1) I had a beautiful landscape to trip in, full of trees and woods and lights. For me, beauty of surroundings is priority number 1 for a good trip; and (2) good companions, including people who were more experienced in tripping than me and were willing to guide; and (3) a safe space where we could gather and come down and talk and burn incense and smoke pot and listen to whatever music felt right to us.


I have had very good experiences, and the privilege of having those safe spaces for the roughly 12 hours an LSD trip takes was a very great gift to me. You bet it changed the way I think! It also changed the way I FEEL, and mostly for the better. No regrets whatsoever, and I'd honestly recommend it without reservation to most 20-year-olds, as long as they have the good conditions I did.

HCE SuiGeneris  (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 02:16 AM
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65. Red Blotter, Orange Sunshine
 and various others at 13 - 19 years of age. There were many episodes that opened my eyes.
Would love to discuss in a forum other than this.

 

BadGimp  (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 02:53 AM
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76. It had the same effect on me
 36 years ago I experimented several times

it opened my way of looking at the world and things

 

onethatcares  (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 06:14 AM
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83. it didn't so much change the way I thought
 but it did change the way I looked at the outside world.

I don't have words to describe and words alone could not describe my view.

I'm 60ish now and don't think my mind could handle another ride but when I was in my 20s it was my weekend recreational drug of choice.

Along with mescaline, peyote, psyllocibin mushrooms, hash, and pot. Jeeez, I should be a rock by now

piratefish08  (1000+ posts)      Sat Oct-29-11 06:49 AM
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90. mushrooms - psilocybin - changed and continue to change my world view
 

Pretty easy to see why the useless pieces of shit act like they do.
They want a make believe world to be real.

[JohnnyReb]

Never did the stuff...any of it. I was lucky to have witnessed some friends frying their brains thus relieving me of the need to try any of it.

[Ballygrl]

WOW! no wonder their brains are messed up. No, I haven't tried it, I smoked pot a few times when I was a teen and that was more than enough, no desire at all to try anything harder.

[compaqxp]

Well that was a surprising topic....who'd have ever guessed? 

I've never personally done any drugs, heck I've never even smoked pot. If you didn't know better you'd think I was worse off for it based on the dummies so called experiences.

for the roughly 12 hours an LSD trip takes

Does it really take that long? That's a huge waste of time if nothing else.

[Mr Mannn]

A very revealing portrait of the DUmp.
Here they are, admitting to self/drug induced brain damage.

DUmmies are simply not sane.

The worst I ever did was a couple of cigarettes and a beer. Didn't like them, never went further.

a sad  to  JohnnyReb. I too lost friends to brain damage caused by drugs. One wonders what their lives could have been if only they were not ruined by drugs.

DUmmies. You belong in asylums for the insane if you think drug use brings enlightenment. If I ever become king...I'm rounding you up.

[BlueStateSaint]

WOW! no wonder their brains are messed up. No, I haven't tried it, I smoked pot a few times when I was a teen and that was more than enough, no desire at all to try anything harder.

Same here.  Reading some of those responses made me think I was on a hallucinegenic trip, though.

[longview]

I remember the kids who took acid and mescaline.  Sad cases.  They seemed to lose basic reasoning skills.  Simple projects in school became wandering messes for them.  So sequencing skills were affected?  Problem solving?  Interesting that the one DUmmy mentioned that it enabled him/her to deconstruct society, because I observed the dopers would have trouble organizing anything even as simple as what table or tree they would meet together for lunch.  It deconstructed them.

There were a couple in high school who became what we were told became psychotic and couldn't return.  The dopers would talk how those had had a bad trip at some party or another.  

I hate mind-blowing drugs and I really hate those who manufacture and market them to others.

Why don't DUmmies have an Occupy Haight-Ashbury or an city's doper district?  The manufacturers and marketers of those drugs were purely greedy with complete disregard for their consumers!

[BlueStateSaint]

I hate mind-blowing drugs and I really hate those who manufacture and market them to others.

The most "mind-blowing drug" I've ever encountered is my daughter.  The things she can come up with at times make me do this:

 

But she's a riot.

[FreeBorn]

End of lesson, class dismissed.

[Odin's Hand]

Zorra  (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 12:43 AM
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42. It generally only damages the primitive reptilian part of the brain 
 that is responsible for generating unreasonable fear and subsequent ignorance and hatred of anyone or anything that is unusual.

The lysergic acid in LSD dissolves the primitive evolutionary reptilian holdover in the lining of the corpus callosum, allowing for exceptionally fluid and rapid communication and cooperation back and forth between the left and right hemispheres of the brain.

Interestingly, and in direct contrast, LSD has been often observed to generate intense, unreasonable fear in many people who have never used it. 

I'm not a neurologist...but, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 

[FlaGator]

I did it a few times. Like the person in the second quote said, all it did was get me high. No long term, earth shattering effects. I suspect that the ones who are claiming that it changed them are just quoting something that they heard Timothy Leary say and want to seem hip to the others reading their posts.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

500 pages by noon.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

Yep! I did it...Why you would want to do it twice is beyond me....Very bad experience.

[USA4ME]

Short version:  When I was around 20 years old still living in Tampa, a friend and his girlfriend drank some mushroom juice, called me up and said they had to get out of the house, it was creeping them out.  I picked them up and started to drive around town, and ended up going into the area near Tampa Stadium where all these bright, flashing neon signs were.  They started freaking out; I mean screaming and pitching around in the backseat, which left me the option of turning into the Latino neighborhoods in that area consisting of pitch dark areas and gangs.  So I did my own freaking out until we got out of those neighborhoods.

Got out of town, drove the country roads lining the orange groves NW of Tampa (no lights except headlights in that area), they finally came down off their bad high.  Kinda turned me off wanting to trip.

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[longview]

Zorra  (1000+ posts)        Sat Oct-29-11 12:43 AM
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42. It generally only damages the primitive reptilian part of the brain  
 that is responsible for generating unreasonable fear and subsequent ignorance and hatred of anyone or anything that is unusual.

The lysergic acid in LSD dissolves the primitive evolutionary reptilian holdover in the lining of the corpus callosum, allowing for exceptionally fluid and rapid communication and cooperation back and forth between the left and right hemispheres of the brain.

Interestingly, and in direct contrast, LSD has been often observed to generate intense, unreasonable fear in many people who have never used it.

That sounds like it was written by a doper.

I did it a few times. Like the person in the second quote said, all it did was get me high. No long term, earth shattering effects. I suspect that the ones who are claiming that it changed them are just quoting something that they heard Timothy Leary say and want to seem hip to the others reading their posts.

Could well be.  Also I wonder if those who had lasting effects were predisposed to problems anyway.

[ChuckJ]

I've never had any experience with LSD, the drug.

I have had experience with Liberal Socialistic Democrats. They are ruining the country.

[Vagabond]

Friend's of mine took some LSD on one of our camping trips.  I was always in dread fear of what my parents would do to me if they caught me taking so I never did, and now I wouldn't.

I'm the only to ever escape that neighborhood.  I always thought the fact I didnuse drugs was the reason why.

[Alpha Mare]

They're full of shit. Sure, you conquer all the problems of the world- while you're tripping. But you don't remember a damn thing. That 'open mind' doesn't stick around and enlighten you years later.

Posted by: ChuckJ

Could well be.  Also I wonder if those who had lasting effects were presiposed to problems anyway.

Studies show that people who claim to experience flashbacks have preexisting psychological problems. I don't know anyone who's had a flashback, and I know a lot of people who did acid and a lot of it.  This was 'the good stuff' decades ago; who knows what the crap now really is.

[compaqxp]

I'm not a neurologist...but, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. 

+1

[Ballygrl]

When I was growing up and living in Brooklyn we knew so many kids that died from drug overdoses, the people upstairs were heroin addicts, us kids used to find their needles all the time when we were out playing. My Dad hated drug addicts, and there was 1 girl in particular who'd sit on the stoop all spaced out, whenever we'd walk past her he'd stop and he'd show me the track marks on her arms, her name was Debbie, I never forgot her name or the look on her face when she was high, and I never forgot the track marks. It might sound harsh but my Dad would say to me that if I ever became a drug addict he wouldn't hesitate to pull out a gun and shoot me and he'd gladly go to jail for the rest of his life, he felt that strongly about it. He saw what drug addiction did to people and he loved me too much to let me go through that. And yeah him saying that instilled a fear in me, but I knew that he saw worse than what he showed me on Debbie's arms.

[vesta111]

Damn is that crap still around, first time I ran into it was in 1967 at a party of UNH students.   

Scared the crap out of me, the kids  a bit over my age were all tripping and I had no idea what was going on.  I knew nothing about pot at that time and the only drug I had ever had was Beer.

Some of these people today are educated, parants and grandparents.    They could be our lawyer, banker or doctor/dentist, all for 40 years practicing their trade.

Do they get the flash backs from all those years ago when operating on a patient, flash backs in court defending someone, flashbacks when working on a movement of our money ????

Spooky that many retired go into bus driving for public and private schools, I knew one driver that had a flash back----what ever that is----aged 60 with 50 kids on the bus. The reason he quit driving, scared him to death.

As I am afraid of the consequences of drugs---drinking 3 beers is bad enough, I wonder about these so called flash backs due to taking LSD.

Too busy changing diapers and moving about the country with a husband in the military to check into the drug scene.

[delilahmused]

Well that was a surprising topic....who'd have ever guessed? 

I've never personally done any drugs, heck I've never even smoked pot. If you didn't know better you'd think I was worse off for it based on the dummies so called experiences.

Does it really take that long? That's a huge waste of time if nothing else.

I was an extremely wild child and took quite a lot too. I was pretty much on my own from the time I was 13. Yes it does last that long but you don't notice. Basically you hallucinate for 12 hours. Didn't learn anything from it. Later I figured out that the only thing that kept me alive was grace. And it did teach me to watch my boys like a hawk and stay involved in their lives so I guess I got something good out of it since I couldn't learn by example, except for my grandparents.

Cindie

[delilahmused]

I was an extremely wild child and took quite a lot too. I was pretty much on my own from the time I was 13. Yes it does last that long but you don't notice. Basically you hallucinate for 12 hours. Didn't learn anything from it. Later I figured out that the only thing that kept me alive was grace. And it did teach me to watch my boys like a hawk and stay involved in their lives so I guess I got something good out of it since I couldn't learn by example, except for my grandparents.

Cindie

H5, Vesta, because I don't have to worry about you anymore! You were missed!

Cindie

[miskie]

I never did any drugs - but my friends and I did participate in a somewhat dangerous game for the experience it provided.

We would knock each other unconscious, and then share the experiences we had while under for a couple of minutes.

All you need is a friend, and a wall.

One of us would stand against the wall, and bend over as one does to touch their toes. While hunched over, one breathes slowly and deeply ten times or so. Then the participant would inhale deeply, hold their breath, stand up back against the wall with their arms crossed over their chest like a mummy. The second person would push on the participant's chest as hard as they could, and then play catch, as unconsciousness comes in just a few seconds.

We would have dreams that went on for what seemed to be hours in just 30 seconds or so.

Anyway, the above is a bad idea for a whole host of medical reasons. Don't do it.

   

[GOBUCKS]

So the DUmpmonkeys are all druggies. Shocker.
And the serious addicts, like Taverner, didn't even show up.

This huge response reminds me of the thread where one of the DUmmies asked who had spent time in jail.