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Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« on: October 25, 2011, 10:50:37 AM »
Obastard can use this at his discretion at any time he wants to declare a national emergency, whether one exists or not.

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The EAS is a national public warning system that requires broadcasters, cable television systems, wireless cable systems, satellite digital audio radio service (SDARS) providers, and direct broadcast satellite (DBS) providers to provide the communications capability to the President to address the American public during a national emergency.

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Hmmmmmmmm......................
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 11:02:50 AM »
Obastard can use this at his discretion at any time he wants to declare a national emergency, whether one exists or not.

Hmmmmmmmm......................
Don't they already do this on tv and radio once a month for 30 seconds anyway?
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 11:08:06 AM »
Frank, you left the ParGen on again, didn't you?

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 11:18:32 AM »
Don't they already do this on tv and radio once a month for 30 seconds anyway?

Not this way.  This is going to be done on every channel and at the same time .  Not sure if it will involve cable channels or not.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 12:13:02 PM »
Obastard can use this at his discretion at any time he wants to declare a national emergency, whether one exists or not.

Hmmmmmmmm......................
Hmmmm, thought this happened before when Mars invaded the Earth back in the fifties........
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 12:15:15 PM »
Frank, you left the ParGen on again, didn't you?

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That thing--the primitive paranoia generator, the ParGen--has been spinning out of control for a while now.

I think the "off" switch is short-circuited, and it can't be turned off.

Kudos to GOBUCKS here, who was the inspiration behind the ParGen, which is perhaps the first fully-operable perpetual-motion machine ever devised.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 12:28:35 PM »
Not this way.  This is going to be done on every channel and at the same time .  Not sure if it will involve cable channels or not.

Correct, the "required" monthly EAS test is a "rolling event", in which there is a designated initiation station that starts the process, and as it's received at the rest of the broadcasters it initiates their test.  It's done automatically by the broadcaster's EAS system.

This "National Emergency" test has been done before, usually on about three-year intervals, however in the past it has been done at 2 AM Eastern time..........in other words in the middle of the night, so nobody really notices it......

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 12:52:24 PM »
I agree w/ Doc that right now, it's a mountain out of a molehill... However, I could see 0bama being tempted to use it to silence opposition or get more free face time on TV. That kind of move, especially if he were behind in the race, would lead to an enormous backlash against him, but since when has he thought of consequences for his actions?

He'd probably only use it to declare marshall law, cancel elections, and announce arrests for political enemies as terrorists.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 01:00:36 PM »
I agree w/ Doc that right now, it's a mountain out of a molehill... However, I could see 0bama being tempted to use it to silence opposition or get more free face time on TV. That kind of move, especially if he were behind in the race, would lead to an enormous backlash against him, but since when has he thought of consequences for his actions?

He'd probably only use it to declare marshall law, cancel elections, and announce arrests for political enemies as terrorists.

In that case he'd have to talk really, really fast, as the EAS system will only allow a 55 second message, even for a presidential broadcast.  He could get more time on the accompanying scroll (the text the EAS system runs across the bottom of a TV screen during a test), but not much.

It's not designed for a "speech", just for emergency notification.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 01:44:03 PM »
Obastard can use this at his discretion at any time he wants to declare a national emergency, whether one exists or not.

So can every other president.

The alternative is to have no system to address the nation in the event of a countrywide emergency.

What do you think he's going to do? Suspend elections? That'd be awesome because we wouldn't have to wait until Jan 2013 to run his ass out of town.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 02:10:57 PM »
In that case he'd have to talk really, really fast, as the EAS system will only allow a 55 second message, even for a presidential broadcast.  He could get more time on the accompanying scroll (the text the EAS system runs across the bottom of a TV screen during a test), but not much.

It's not designed for a "speech", just for emergency notification.

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"This is your president. Due to civil unrest in this country, I am declaring martial law."

Much less than 55 seconds. And I'm sure his geeks could alter the program to give him whatever he wants.

Cable stations don't do the notifications now, but that will change on 11/9.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2011, 02:23:26 PM »
Settle down, Francis.

Martial law implies he has a military that would follow the order. If you even hint that the army would accept such orders you will unleash a torrent of rabbity wrath the likes of which has not been seen since the cancellation of Jazzercize on Showtime.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2011, 06:39:43 PM »
In that case he'd have to talk really, really fast, as the EAS system will only allow a 55 second message, even for a presidential broadcast.  He could get more time on the accompanying scroll (the text the EAS system runs across the bottom of a TV screen during a test), but not much.

It's not designed for a "speech", just for emergency notification.

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So basically, if TOTUS wasn't up, about all we'd hear is:

"I, uh...my, zombies, errrrr, my fellow Americans, uh, let me be clear, uh, I inherited from previous administration, uh, ummmm, shit."
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 07:25:33 PM »
So basically, if TOTUS wasn't up, about all we'd hear is:

"I, uh...my, zombies, errrrr, my fellow Americans, uh, let me be clear, uh, I inherited from previous administration, uh, ummmm, shit."

That sounds very accurate!
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2011, 07:34:23 PM »
God forbid we ever have some kind of national emergency and the ****ing TelePrompTer breaks.  What a mess that would be.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2011, 07:38:44 PM »
Wait, what?? what's supposed to happen on 11/9?? I will be out at sea on some deserted island comatosed on pina coladas.... :-)
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2011, 07:54:33 PM »
Wait, what?? what's supposed to happen on 11/9?? I will be out at sea on some deserted island comatosed on pina coladas.... :-)
Your TV is supposed to molest you while you're sleeping.  But you'll be okay... you're on a boat somewhere.  A boat filled with TVs.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2011, 08:57:20 PM »
Your TV is supposed to molest you while you're sleeping.  But you'll be okay... you're on a boat somewhere.  A boat filled with TVs.

And all the screens will have this on them:

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2011, 09:06:31 PM »
And all the screens will have this on them:


all i see is a tan square with a tiny white box with a red x
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2011, 09:07:55 PM »
all i see is a tan square with a tiny white box with a red x
Be afraid.  Be very afraid.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2011, 09:25:50 PM »
In that case he'd have to talk really, really fast, as the EAS system will only allow a 55 second message, even for a presidential broadcast.  He could get more time on the accompanying scroll (the text the EAS system runs across the bottom of a TV screen during a test), but not much.

It's not designed for a "speech", just for emergency notification.

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55 Seconds?!!
Not much time, all you can really say is:
Announcer: We interupt this broadcast to bring you an emergency message from the President.
President: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Announcer: That concludes our emergency Broadcast. Please kiss you a$$ goodbye.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2011, 09:35:25 PM »
In that case he'd have to talk really, really fast, as the EAS system will only allow a 55 second message, even for a presidential broadcast.  He could get more time on the accompanying scroll (the text the EAS system runs across the bottom of a TV screen during a test), but not much.

It's not designed for a "speech", just for emergency notification.

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According to Snopes there is no time limit for a national test.

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2011, 11:23:46 PM »
11/9 - 9/11

Just flip the numbers.  Conspiracy!

I do think it's odd, however, they want to do this test in the middle of the day.  Keep it to 2am EST.  I'll be at work either way, so it's not like they will be interrupting my Judge Mathis or People's Court or anything like that.
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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2011, 12:05:22 PM »
According to Snopes there is no time limit for a national test.

Snopes is full of crap.......the EAS equipment (built to FCC regulations) only has a buffer large enough to store 55 seconds of speech at a time before another test must be initiated by the alert tones.  

System capacity:

Alert tones - 5 seconds (digitally encoded with the "type" of alert)

Message content - 55 seconds (unless transfered directly to NOAA's sutomated weather alert system, which provides the audio externally)

Cutoff tones - 5 seconds (resetting the equipment to a ready state)

There are four levels of "priority" that can be encoded into the alert tones:
1.) Emergency (immediate action)
2.) Warning (notification of an impending event)
3.) Watch  (Notification of a "possible" event)
4.) Advisory (General event information)

A national emergency  alert can refer the viewer/listener to a broadcast immediately following the test, which the feds can commandeer and air live in regular broadcast mode.  

The equipment itself is audio only, and will generate a text message (Chyron graphic file), which TV stations run as a crawl at the bottom or top of the screen.  The equipment can be programmed to repeat the same message over and over for a long period of time (such as emergency weather alerts), but it is still limited to a finite quantity of information.  There is NO video capability in the system.

It IS possible for the feds to use the NOAA weather system to provide an extended audio message to the equipment externally, however the code for a "National Alert" will not do that automatically, it must be placed into "manual" mode which can only be done by an operator at each and every station.

The "manual" mode is designed for emergency notifications of only local  interest......"Amber Alerts" are an example of a use of the system for this purpose.

There is nothing particularly ominous about the EAS system at the individual broadcast station level.......it's simply a box in the equipment rack, measuring about three inches high, nineteen inches wide, and about (depending on manufacturer) eight inches deep.  It typically contains three radio receivers.......one tuned to the "key" station (typically AM, depending on geographic area), a backup (typically FM, agan depending on area), and the third tuned to the NOAA automated weather radio transmissions (in the 110 MHz band).  It also contains cheap-ass date/time clock, a microprocesser board, and less than one meg of RAM, with very simple firmware, which is designed to decode the alert tones and store the audio message, a Chyron generator, an audio amp, and a small speaker.

It is wired into the stations audio signal chain, so that when automatically activated it will "preempt", or override regular programming, and air what it is receiving from elsewhere, up  to the limits of its design.

To broadcasters, they are basically a pain in the ass......primarily due to the fact that when the FCC wrote the specs, they failed to include a quartz clock, so the time has to constantly be reset to be accurate, because if the clock is wrong, the firmware is designed to interpret an alert whose time code is more than five minutes different than the built-in clock to be "expired", and will be ignored by the system.  Each unit also contains a tiny thermal printer, which prints out an adding machine sized written notice of each alert, which is to be filed daily with the stations operating logs, per FCC regs.  The printer is particularly annoying because here in "tornado alley", after a storny night, it is not unusual to come in in the morning to find fifteen feet of paper printouts hanging out of the device,

I know....WAY too much information, but I thought it important that the reader understand exactly what the system is......and isn't.......

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Re: Feds to temporarily shut down all radio & TV on 11/9
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2011, 12:13:28 PM »
I know Snopes isn't too good, but it was the easiest to find.  Still I have to wonder if Snopes interpreted the following to mean that the feds didn't have a time limit.

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A national emergency  alert can refer the viewer/listener to a broadcast immediately following the test, which the feds can commandeer and air live in regular broadcast mode. 

The commandeer part makes it sound like the government can take over the air waves.