primitives complain about gasoline prices (again)

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3230883

Oh my.

I wonder what the Big Dad primitive's game is, provoking the primitives like this.

BigDaddy44  (580 posts) Thu May-01-08 10:52 AM
Original message

For those of you complaining about high gas prices.....
   
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/01/news/international/usga...

We've been getting off cheap for years. And, compared with the vast majority of the world, we're STILL getting off dirt cheap.

Okay, I've said it once or twice or three times, and I'll say it again.

I recently found out that a bag of marijuana that used to cost franksolich $10 now costs $160, a whopping increase.

franksolich can think of no other consumer good that has increased sixteen times over the past 25 years.

When the primitives start building bonfires complaining about the excess windfall profits of the marijuana industry, then franksolich will start taking the primitives seriously when the primitives complain about high gasoline prices.

hobbit709  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 10:56 AM
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1. Yeah, but most of those countries tax the shit out of it.
   
But then their taxes pay for more than what we get for our taxes.

Echo In Light  (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 10:57 AM
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3. And that's a crucial, albeit overlooked aspect of the equation

So.....the primitives wouldn't be complaining about the high price of gasoline if, say, circa $3.20 of the $3.50 price were taxes?

TooBigaTent  (525 posts) Thu May-01-08 10:57 AM
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2. Exactly. If we had to pay (directly) the real cost, just maybe the US would be a little more enlightened about conservation.

But, as with everything else, there are no consequences for Amerika for bad behavior.

One offers the primitives as "Exhibit A" when it comes to "no consequences for bad behavior."

bowens43  (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 10:58 AM
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6. So? How does that help anything?

mrcheerful  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 10:59 AM
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7. Someone hasn't done his research on the big gas is cheap in america spin by the media it seems. The countries with the lowest gas prices are the countries where the government owns and controls the oil companies. The countries with the highest gas prices are countries that charge the highest taxes on gas. So america is not getting off cheap nor is the product fairly priced when oil companies control the out put of refineries to drive prices up artificially.

Driving prices up artificially like the marijuana industry has?

napi21  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 11:05 AM
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10. BIG DIFFERENCE! European countries don't have things like "the highway bill" and bridge funds, etc. All of their road construction/maintenance is paid from their gas tax. You can't compare apples & oranges. I wouldn't know where to begin to find out how much we are taxed indirectly for funding the highway bill, local bonds issued to construct new roads and bridges, etc. My guess is the tax $$ are roughly the same but come from different sources.

[ScubaGuy]

So on one hand the DUmmies like the idea of everybody paying for government programs via a tax on fuel.  On the other the DUmmies don't like the idea of doing the same thing across the board by eliminating income tax and replacing it with the Fair Tax.

Right now they like the idea of higher fuel taxes paying for health care but if it were implemented they would be bitching about why they pay the same percentage in fuel tax as Bill Gates.

I just can't keep up with when a tax is good and when it's not.

[DixieBelle]

^neither can they

[jukin]

For a DUmbass any tax is good.

Correct me if I'm wrong has it not been the goal of the left to make gasoline and all energy to be more expensive to curb usage and change social behavior?

Ann Coulter is right, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

[ScubaGuy]

For a DUmbass any tax is good.

Correct me if I'm wrong has it not been the goal of the left to make gasoline and all energy to be more expensive to curb usage and change social behavior?

Ann Coulter is right, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

For a DUmbass any tax, that someone else has to pay is good.

You're right about the part where they wanted the price of gas to be higher.  IIRC about the time gas was approaching $2/gal. quite a few of the DUmmies were wishing for $4-$5/gal. so that consumption would be reduced.

[BlueStateSaint]

For a DUmbass any tax is good.

Correct me if I'm wrong has it not been the goal of the left to make gasoline and all energy to be more expensive to curb usage and change social behavior?

Ann Coulter is right, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

For a DUmbass any tax, that someone else has to pay is good.

H5 for the additional line.

You're right about the part where they wanted the price of gas to be higher.  IIRC about the time gas was approaching $2/gal. quite a few of the DUmmies were wishing for $4-$5/gal. so that consumption would be reduced.

[jukin]

For a DUmbass any tax is good.

Correct me if I'm wrong has it not been the goal of the left to make gasoline and all energy to be more expensive to curb usage and change social behavior?

Ann Coulter is right, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

For a DUmbass any tax, that someone else has to pay is good.

You're right about the part where they wanted the price of gas to be higher.  IIRC about the time gas was approaching $2/gal. quite a few of the DUmmies were wishing for $4-$5/gal. so that consumption would be reduced.

Well yea that was before it actually happened. It feltttttt gooooood to say it then.  Not so good when the hard cold reality of the situation slaps them in the face.