http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3229673Oh my.
And then further on, the primitives and sub-primitives can't seem to get the veterans' memorials in Washington, D.C., straight, and discuss the aesthetic qualities of each.
greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:00 PM
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While visiting the AWESOME WWII memorial in DC Bob Dole was there
of course our tour group being from Kansas, our principal went to him to ask to have our picture taken with him.
Although I don't like his or Liddy's politics, it was kind of cool to shake the hand of a man that ran for president.
He generally was a nice guy especially to all the Vets there.
Said Kansas had a program that would fly WWII vets to see the memorial at no cost to them.
He looked like he was already embalmbed tho...kind of gross
I dunno. The greedy thorn primitive looks kind of chunky tho.
roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:01 PM
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1. Maybe he IS embalmed, good thing he has that Viagra.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:26 PM
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7. He probably notified the press but no one came for his appearance at the Vet Memorial. He's probably in DC to go to his bank where he takes out $1000 at a time (forget it is illegal). He bribes with it.
What important bill is before the Senate? It should be illegal for lobbists and former representatives to be on the Senate floor during a debate.
Tesha (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 07:43 AM
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15. Are you suggesting that he's a stiff man in more ways than one?
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 08:45 AM
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18. Sure.
Read about the Riggs bank and Dole. When you withdraw large sums of money (especially cash) the bank records and reports it (to prevent money laundering, etc.). He was withdrawing thousands in cash to carry around in his suit pocket. Good payoff in that cloak room for late night bribery.
The bank said, they ignored it in DC since so many Congress people did it. Congress people money launder and do criminal things? Good god what are we becoming? Bush, Inc.
The Riggs bank was merged to cover it's criminal activity.
Dole used $3 million of Kansas tax payer dollars for his "library and education center" at Kansas University. It has his name on it of-course.
GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:16 PM
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2. He has to be getting up there by now, he has been retired for about 10 years now
it is amazing how the years are going by now. I still remember him running for the office of the President.
You know, that reminds me of something.
I recall that in 1996, the news media made all sorts of hints, suggestions, that being a U.S. Senator and running for president was too much, and so Robert Dole should choose one or the other. And so the senior U.S. Senator from Kansas resigned to run for president.
Odd, in 2004 the news media made no suggestion that being a U.S. Senator and running for president was too much, and so the Bostonian Billionaire should do one or the other. Or odd, in 2008, one hears only silence about the idea that being a U.S. Senator and running for president is too much, and so Messalina Agrippina and Barry "Goldwater" Obama should choose one or the other.
I wonder what's up with that.
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:18 PM
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3. I really dislike that Memorial. It looks ... GERMANIC to me.
If someone left the earth in the mid forties and came back to DC today, they'd think Germany won....
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:24 PM
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4. I saw a similar one in a travel story.
Can't remember where but I thought at the time...hey she copied it.
kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:26 PM
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6. well, the designer was Austrian
He was an architecture professor at the school I went to, here in the US.
Fredrich St. Florian.
I don't like it either.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:28 PM
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8. I thought it was a Asian American.
I was wrong eh?
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:33 PM
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11. You're thinking the Vietnam Memorial. Her name is Maya Lin.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:35 PM
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12. Yes...
That WWII memorial is just plain big and ugly.
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:30 PM
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10. I think they used a German building company, too....
Heck, if they were going to go with the vanquished, I think a Japanese theme might have been a bit more restful!
Actually, I think they should have morphed the whole thing into the FDR memorial (which FDR said, plainly, he did NOT WANT--so much for paying attention to peoples' wishes, eh?) over at Haines Point. It would have made for a nicer site, certainly. I hate this cluttering of the mall they're engaging in--it's ruining a lovely open space. They need to stop.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 08:40 AM
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17. Not until they have one for me!!
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 07:39 AM
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14. exactly my thoughts too when I saw it
I told my husband it was the most gaudy, disgusting display of nationalism I have seen yet. Much like Germany way back when. The added touch was the plaque showing it dedicated by pResident gw bush in 2002!
kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:24 PM
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5. He was very badly wounded in WWII and took years to recover. He still only has partial use of one arm.
One interview of his that I saw had a line that has stuck in my mind. During his recovery Dole's surgeon said to him "You know where you find sympathy in this world. In the dictionary listed between "shit" and "Syphillis".
I went down there with my dad, who was in that war, too. Cold as hell.
I don't like the memorial, I think it is stark and ugly. The design reminds me of fascist architecture. Of course, that was December.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:29 PM
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9. A granade exploded in Dole's hand.
Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:49 PM
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13. I shook the hand of a man who ran for President: John Kerry.
Guess I got the better deal there. Although, Dole does seem to have a smidgen more class than his knuckle-dragging, bottom-feeding fellow party members.
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 08:39 AM
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16. Kerry has lost his luster with me ever since the man was zapped by the security police at his rally. He didn't do a thing to stop it. I'd be afraid to get close to him let alone ask the wrong question.
And as usual, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, who forgot to take her daily dose of Lydia Pinkham's
Special Vegetable Compound for Female Complaints:
proud2Blib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 08:48 AM
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19. I met him a couple times
I am glad he isn't our senator anymore.
