primitives being stupid about Nebraska football

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x187495

Oh my.

It was inevitable.

The college football primitives have discovered the DUmpster, although they of course won't refer to us.

El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-03-11 01:13 PM
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I bet Nebraska fans wish they still had a rivalry.

after which El Stupido posts a photograph of Oklahoma-Texas

a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Mon Oct-03-11 03:12 PM
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2. Boomer! SOONER!

El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Oct-03-11 07:58 PM
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3. Maybe they can start a rivalry with Ohio State...
   
over how many suspensions they'll have during the season.

Yuk yuk yuk yuk.

Anyway.

By the way, the front pages were full of stories about how a Nebraska fan over the weekend was arrested for destroying a paper-towel dispenser in a men's restroom somewhere in Madison after the game.

Our apologies to Wisconsin; for Nebraska fans, such wanton destruction is uncharactertistic.

[franksolich]

The "Nebraska-Oklahoma Rivalry," also known as "OU-Nebraska," was a college football rivalry in the Big 12 Conference, though the rivalry was more prominent when both teams were members of the former Big Eight Conference. The rivalry was effectively ended when Oklahoma was lined up in the Southern division of the newly formed Big 12 to maintain its rivalry with Texas and also its recruiting hotbeds in Texas. As a result, the 2009 meeting turned out to be the last regular season scheduled meeting. As both teams won their respective divisions in 2010, they met one more time, in the 2010 Big 12 Championship Game. Following that match, they (at this time) do not have any future games scheduled.

It was never called "OU-Nebraska," but never mind.

This traditional college football rivalry between Nebraska and Oklahoma, formed over the decades as these teams played annual contests in what would become the Big Eight Conference, had been less intense since the 1996 forming of the Big 12 Conference. This was due to the split-division nature of the Big 12 that scheduled the Cornhuskers and Sooners to meet only twice every four years. Prior to the beginning of Big 12 play in 1996, the Cornhuskers and Sooners had met for 71 consecutive seasons.

Historically, the rivalry's most distinguishing quality had been the grudging respect and appreciation between the two tradition-rich programs. Also of note is the game's former status as the premier Thanksgiving Day game for the middle of the country.

The Sooners had given the Cornhuskers their only regular-season losses in the 1964, 1966, 1975, 1979, and 1987 seasons, while the Cornhuskers had done the same to Oklahoma in 1971 and 1978. In the 1978 season, Nebraska and Oklahoma met two times; once in the regular season with a Cornhusker victory, and then later at the 1979 Orange Bowl with an Oklahoma victory.

The 1959 meeting between these teams is often considered Nebraska’s biggest-ever upset win. On that day, unranked Nebraska defeated #19 Oklahoma 25-21 in Lincoln, ending Oklahoma's 74-game conference win streak.

First Meeting    November 23, 1912
Last Meeting    December 4, 2010
Number of Meetings    86
All-Time Series    Oklahoma: 45–38–3
Largest victory    Nebraska: 62 (69-7 in 1997)
Current Streak    Oklahoma: Won 1
Longest Nebraska Win Streak    7 (1991–1997)
Longest Oklahoma Win Streak    16 (1943–1958)
At Lincoln    Nebraska leads 22-18
At Norman    Oklahoma leads 23-16
At neutral sites    Oklahoma leads 4-1

[Odin's Hand]

National Championships:

Oklahoma-7

Nebraska-5

Texas-4

[franksolich]

National Championships:

Oklahoma-7

Nebraska-5

Texas-4

Uh huh.

I dunno why they consider the 1971 match-up the "Game of the Century," though.

That was just so much television hype.

Nebraska was supposed to win that game, and won it.  Ho-hum.

I always considered the 1978 match-up the best one.

Nebraska wasn't supposed to win that game, and won it.

If I were unbiased, utterly objective, I'd consider the 1969 (or perhaps it was 1968; I dunno) Texas-Arkansas game the "Game of the Century," when an immoveable force collided with an irresistible object.

[franksolich]

Uh, "immoveable object" and "irresistible force."

I've been reading nadin too much, and its's showing.

Sorry.

[franksolich]

National Championships:

Oklahoma-7

Nebraska-5

Texas-4

You know, sir, after going to bed last night, I suddenly remembered something; one might wish to double-check the number for Texas, because Texas, like Michigan, has a habit of claiming a national championship that's not theirs.

Back in 1970-1971, there were only two college football polls, AP (Associated Press) and UPI (United Press International).  One of them closed shop at the end of the regular college football season, while the other had its final poll after the post-season bowl games were played.

In December 1970, after the regular season but before any bowl games were played, Texas was number one in both polls.  In January 1971, after all the post-season bowl games, Nebraska was number one in the only poll that polled past the regular season; i.e., clear to the end of the season.

One supposes Texas can allege itself to be the 1970 regular season national champion, but it surely wasn't overall national champion of the 1970 college football season.

It's just like Texas to try to claim something that isn't theirs.

Even though only a lad in the Sandhills, I remember it well, January 1, 1971, the day that the sun, the moon, the planets, and the stars were all aligned perfectly for Nebraska.  I doubt such a sequence of events had happened before, or have happened since, the way things happened that day.

In those days, the four major bowl games were all played on New Year's Day; in early afternoon the Cotton Bowl, in late afternoon the Rose Bowl, and in the evening at the same time the Orange Bowl and the Sugar Bowl.  I forget who was in the Sugar Bowl on January 1, 1971, but it wasn't anybody important.

About mid-afternoon January 1, 1971, Notre Dame upset #1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl.

About supper-time January 1, 1971, Stanford upset #2 Ohio State in the Rose Bowl.

About bed-time January 1, 1971, Nebraska upset #3 Louisiana State in the Orange Bowl.

Numbers one, two, and three tumbled down, and in that order.

Before the bowl games, Nebraska had been #4 and Notre Dame #5 (Stanford had probably been #8 or #9).

Immediately, the eastern establishment and the west coast powers decreed that Notre Dame deserved to be number one, given that they'd beaten the number one team in the country, Texas.  The then-coach at Notre Dame made a big deal about it, and of course had the elitist news media on his side.

On our side, Nebraska coach Robert Devaney said, "Even the Pope wouldn't vote Notre Dame number one."

And he was right; Nebraska was the only team left undefeated for the whole season (including the bowl games), and it was generally agreed Nebraska had played near-professional college football teams, while Notre Dame had played creampuffs.  The final vote wasn't unanimous, but it was really close to unanimous.

So unless Texas is shown as regular season champion, rather than "national champion," one had better subtract "1" from your total for Texas.

[Odin's Hand]

They claim 1970 as a national championship season just like Michigan claims 1997 was one when everyone, outside of Michigan, knows Nebraska would've smoked them that season.

[USA4ME]

Seeing that they are now in separate conferences, seems like the perfect time to renew the rivalry on an annual basis.  Unlike the past, it would likely be a game played early in the year when a loss for either team wouldn't hurt their BCS standing as much as a late season loss.  But, it certainly would be a game that holds a lot of national interest and would, no doubt, be a revenue enhancement for both schools.

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[franksolich]

Seeing that they are now in separate conferences, seems like the perfect time to renew the rivalry on an annual basis.  Unlike the past, it would likely be a game played early in the year when a loss for either team wouldn't hurt their BCS standing as much as a late season loss.  But, it certainly would be a game that holds a lot of national interest and would, no doubt, be a revenue enhancement for both schools.

Apparently the closest any Nebraska-Oklahoma game could be scheduled is for the 2020-2021 football season, quite a long ways away yet.....and of course by 2020-2021, Nebraska and Ohio State will be slugging it out for the Big 10 championship while the ten dwarves of the Big 10 just spectate.

There are some hard feelings--have been, since the mid-1990s, when the Big 12 was formed--re: Oklahoma up here in Nebraska.  (No reflection on fans of Oklahoma; an overt reflection on the short-sighted administration of the University of Oklahoma.)  Oklahoma's just another football team any more, ho-hum.

And as you probably already know, sir, that's the reason Nebraska went to the Big 10; without that annual shoot-out with Oklahoma, we were the odd man out in the Big 12, nowhere to go, nothing to do.  We have no idea what's ahead for us in the Big 10, but it's better than just sitting around twiddling our thumbs.

We really belong with the Big 12, the spinal column of America, the Plains, not with the effete elitist easterners of the Big 10.  But, without Oklahoma, what was there for us in the Big 12?

When the Big 12 came into being, all ancient rivalries were preserved--Kansas-Missouri, Kansas-Kansas State, Oklahoma-Oklahoma State, Oklahoma-Texas, Texas-Texas A & M--with one exception.

But Texas told Oklahoma, "If you insist on playing Nebraska every year, then we're going to play you only twice every four years."  The University of Oklahoma bureaucracy must be surfeited with Texas fifth-columnists or something, because Oklahoma folded, and went with Texas.

They threw away the dull gold of Nebraska for the shiny brass of Texas.

So I don't think even during the 2020s and 2030s a Nebraska-Oklahoma match-up will happen; memories are long on the Plains.