http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5747961Oh my.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 05:53 AM
Original message
The handwriting is already on the wall...If Obama ends up being the nominee, but loses to McCain in the GE, it will all be Hillary's fault, and her supporters' fault, and even independent DUers like myself's fault for not advocating the surrender of the nomination on a silver platter like all of the Obama fans demand.
Since I love Democracy, I think it's great that everyone in all the states get to participate and vote.
However, some people say that could cost Obama the White House.
It's time to quit blaming other Democrats and accusing them of destroying the party, and just get on with counting the votes.
But mark my words...if Obama loses in the GE, and you haven't been an Obama fan, oh my Lord, you will be blamed. In fact, you will be crucified.
Watch.
Uh-huh. Sit back, relax, get mellow, and watch.
tasteblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 05:58 AM
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1. It's a good thing Obama is going to win the GE. That way, the Hill supporters will be off the hook.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Otherwise it's all their fault.
Right tasteblind?
tasteblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:07 AM
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3. Not at all.
Hillary's supporters are pretty inconsequential.
Whoa-ho.
Messalina Agrippina's supporters are half the Democrats.
I don't think the professionals running Barry "Goldwater" Obama's campaign consider Messalina Agrippina's supporters of no consequence, and being professionals, they're going to work their asses off trying to get Messalina Agrippina's supporters into the fold.
The Obamaite tasteless sub-primitive doesn't know excresence about politics.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:12 AM
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6. Oh, that's a friendly answer tasteblind.
Hold on while I gather my thoughts.
You caught me off guard by providing the correct answer right away minus any snark.
Well done.
tasteblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:33 AM
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12. Had you going, didn't I?
You asked for it with your snarky follow-up though.
The "snarky follow-up" followed the snarky comment of the tasteless Obamaite sub-primitive.
shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:29 AM
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10. Half of the Democratic Party is inconsequential???
That, in itself, will be what ruins Obama. His supporters just can not acknowledge that half of the Democratic Party has voted for Clinton. Look at the numbers. You are denying half of the party and that is a dangerous thing. You act like she has 12 votes and he has millions!! It is split down the middle and no one is coming out the clear winner. I don't care which one wins, but I think this is an ego-maniacal mistake that Obama supporters think he has enough votes to seal the nomination. We are going to have to do something about the Clinton supporters other than disregard them or they will leave the party. Obama needs these voters to win in the General Election. The Primaries are only a battle. The GE is the war and you will need them. Mark my words.
tasteblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:35 AM
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13. It was a joke.
Y'all will come around after Hillary endorses Obama. We'll be laughing about this in a few short months.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It wasn't any joke the tasteless Obamaite sub-primitive was trying to make; we know the honest sentiments, the deepest hearts, of the Obamaite sub-primitives.....and know that pride goeth before a fall.
Yossariant (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:11 AM
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4. Natch. There's a thread blaming the Clintons for Gore's loss.
The Democrats appear to be incapable of leading.
Like Kucinich (right message, wrong guy) they have more excuses for losing than they have ways of winning.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:14 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Your point is very well taken indeed.
Thanks for your response.
Hmmm. That's a most curious phenomenon.
The cboy primitive must have added fiber to his diet; he's more reasonable and cordial than he usually is.
In fact, the cboy primitive just may be in line for promotion upward from the
unterprimitiven into one of the tiered primitives.
tasteblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #4
14. Your excuses comment reminds me of Hillary.
Caucuses don't count. Red states don't count. What, I lost a state yesterday? You wouldn't know it from my lack of a concession speech or congratulatory remarks.
whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:12 AM
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5. worse than that...
If Obama loses the nomination to Hillary, his black support might go to Cynthia McKinney (don't laugh--a similar thing happened before, think Nader) but on a much larger scale.
If Hillary losses, her support might go to McCain
(while Hillary's support seems to be coming from traditional republican rural area voters who would seem likely to gravitate to McCain)
interesting times indeed
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:15 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. Oh my.
Okay, that's it. The cboy primitive reads franksolich.
The cboy primitive's been promoted from the depths of the
unterprimitiven, the lynch mob, soaring clear up to first-tier primitivedom.
casus belli (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:15 AM
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8. It will be ALL OF OUR faults
It's something that we can't let happen. Period. If our nominee loses, we all lose. And by we, I mean every single human being occupying the planet.
Skwmom (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:31 AM
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11. The Clintons and the Superdelegates will be to blame.
While the math proves that Clinton CANNOT win the superdelegates sit quietly on the sidelines letting the Clintons destroy the party once again.
quickesst (676 posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:37 AM
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15. You didn't go far enough.......
even if Obama wins the GE, his supporters will still make life miserable for Clinton and any who support her. Sure they will blame Clinton and her following for a loss, but a win will bring a different kind of misery. They will not be able to keep from gloating, as people who genuinely believe they are a cut above the rest of us are wont to do.
Don't forget either, that if Obama goes against McShame, O's supporters will woo Clinton votes in order to garner that win, welcome you back into the fold, so to speak, but rest assured, the hatred and disdain so colorfully expressed for HRC's supporters will remain, maybe hidden until "gloating time". You don't turn this kind of hatred off, and once having had a taste of the egoist pie, cannot help but consume the entire thing. Thanks.
That was quick; apparently another primitive soaring upward into tiered primitivehood.
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. What a gloomy forecast quickesst.
Tragically, I don't disagree.
BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 06:37 AM
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16. Totally unfair...Hillary has run an above-board, high-minded campaign and done nothing to undermine Obama's credentials and elevate John McCain.