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Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« on: September 30, 2011, 07:19:28 PM »
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Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
   
but think they are celebrating freedom by making it harder to cast a vote...

Both are rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Shouldn't they both be treated the same?

They are willing to let convicted felons to be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to purchasing but are scrutinized when the try to get into the voting booth.

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Yeah because showing an ID is such a chore.  :mental:
What's next requiring people to be 18 or older to vote, requiring people to be actual citizens? Such fascism.  :mental:




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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2011, 07:23:08 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 30, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
What's next, requiring people to be 18 or older to vote, requiring people to be actual citizens? Such fascism.  :mental:

Or demanding that they actually be alive, or actually exist.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 07:31:51 PM »
Actually, in a better world, the requirements for the two should be the same.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on September 30, 2011, 07:23:08 PM
Or demanding that they actually be alive, or actually exist.

Damn man, you really are a fascist.  :-)
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 07:35:52 PM »
Quote from: redwhit on September 30, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
Actually, in a better world, the requirements for the two should be the same.

I agree.

The funny thing about the left is in every instance but one they cry about being guilty until proven innocent, yet when it comes to gun rights they champion being guilty until proven innocent.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 07:52:27 PM »
My solution would be to have the same requirements to register as there are to getting a gun permit, voting would require jumping through the same hoops as it does to actually purchase a firearm. 

That seems fair, does it not?  As an added benefit, a lot of liberal votes would be lost in the big blue places that have virtually outlawed guns.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 10:36:29 PM »
 Ok. We will use the same rule you leftist idiots used in California, a fifteen day waiting period to vote. That way we can have plenty of time to weed out the idiots.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 10:40:11 PM »
The liberal ideas on guns never cease to amaze me.

Let's say that guns are made illegal. Do the liberals think that the CRIMINALS will follow the gun law and not have a gun?

Isn't the definition of "criminal" a person who breaks or has broken the law?
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 10:41:45 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on September 30, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
The liberal ideas on guns never cease to amaze me.

Let's say that guns are made illegal. Do the liberals think that the CRIMINALS will follow the gun law and not have a gun?

Isn't the definition of "criminal" a person who breaks or has broken the law?

They also think hate crime laws will make morons who want to drag black people behind trucks think twice.  :mental:
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 10:47:05 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on September 30, 2011, 10:41:45 PM
They also think hate crime laws will make morons who want to drag black people behind trucks think twice.  :mental:

Yeah. Hate crimes are another nutty idea. I can see the news now:

News anchor 1: In the news tonight a 30 year old male used a tire iron to beat the hell out of another 30 year old male.
News anchor 2: That sounds like a hate crime.
News anchor 1: No. Not a hate crime. They were both white.
News anchor 2: So it was a love crime?
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2011, 11:07:43 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on September 30, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Yeah. Hate crimes are another nutty idea. I can see the news now:

News anchor 1: In the news tonight a 30 year old blackmale used a tire iron to beat the hell out of another 30 year old  whitemale.
News anchor 2: That sounds like a hate crime.
News anchor 1: No. Not a hate crime. Only white people can commit hate crimes.
News anchor 2: So it was pay back for whitey's oppression?

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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 02:36:30 AM »
So a black guy and a white get a bar fight and the white guy shoots the black guy, that's a hate crime. But a white woman savagely beaten and stabbed 27 times by an abusive boyfriend isn't. My guess is there's a hell of a lot more hatred expressed in the second act than the first.

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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 03:08:06 AM »
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Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...   
but think they are celebrating freedom by making it harder to cast a vote...

Both are rights guaranteed by the Constitution. Shouldn't they both be treated the same?

They are willing to let convicted felons to be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to purchasing but are scrutinized when the try to get into the voting booth.
Quietly, under your breath....say..2.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2011, 03:13:05 AM »
Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun... because they work and donen't have time to waste. You government tit suckers have all day to fill out paperwork and wait. 
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2011, 05:25:49 AM »
Quote from: Airwolf on September 30, 2011, 10:36:29 PM
a fifteen day waiting period to vote.

You would, effectively, kill the DUmbocratic Party.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2011, 05:27:57 AM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on September 30, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
The liberal ideas on guns never cease to amaze me.

Let's say that guns are made illegal. Do the liberals think that the CRIMINALS will follow the gun law and not have a gun?

Isn't the definition of "criminal" a person who breaks or has broken the law?

That's a question I've asked anti-Second Amendment fanatics for years and years and years.....

.....and I've never gotten an answer.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2011, 08:16:27 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on October 01, 2011, 05:27:57 AM
That's a question I've asked anti-Second Amendment fanatics for years and years and years.....

.....and I've never gotten an answer.

Frank, you should know better than to ask a logical question!
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2011, 09:38:25 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 01, 2011, 05:25:49 AM
You would, effectively, kill the DUmbocratic Party.

Most of the democrat party voters are already dead. Just not taken off of the voter roll.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2011, 10:27:13 AM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on September 30, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
The liberal ideas on guns never cease to amaze me.

Let's say that guns are made illegal. Do the liberals think that the CRIMINALS will follow the gun law and not have a gun?

Isn't the definition of "criminal" a person who breaks or has broken the law?

Because making gun posession illegal works so well in Chicago, DC, Boston, pick a city. 
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2011, 11:50:29 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 01, 2011, 05:25:49 AM
You would, effectively, kill the DUmbocratic Party.

Yep, and the left knows that they can't win much anywhere without massive voter fraud. It is the only logical reason for the vehement stance against requiring and ID to vote, though the left has required IDs for their various ponzi schemes for the better part of a century.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2011, 12:02:52 PM »
I believe voter ID will have exactly zero effect on the outcome of any statewide or national election.
But I strongly support it due to the fury it generates among the DUmbasses.
That alone is reason enough to pass it.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2011, 12:34:15 PM »
Quote from: redwhit on September 30, 2011, 07:31:51 PM
Actually, in a better world, the requirements for the two should be the same.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2011, 04:50:54 PM »
In Massachusetts I have to not only show an ID to purchase a firearm but also provide a fingerprint and four sheets of paperwork and I am still limited to the state government approved firearms which excludes many of the best made and most reliable.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2011, 04:38:25 AM »
Quote from: Doc Savage on October 01, 2011, 10:27:13 AM
Because making gun posession illegal works so well in Chicago, DC, Boston, pick a city. 

Notice that they all have a large or better than average number of blacks. Now are they trying to disarm the black criminal element and stop violent crime OR are they disarming the white population so they can't defend themselves when blacks riot?

What are they doing when they pass these laws? They can clearly see from past history that gun control laws don't work in favor of the law abiding citizen. I guess it's the stupid liberal mind set of just one more law, one more tax, just a few more dollars spent and it whould've/will work.
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Re: Why do conservatives want to make it easy to buy a gun...
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2011, 04:51:08 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on October 02, 2011, 04:38:25 AM
Notice that they all have a large or better than average number of blacks. Now are they trying to disarm the black criminal element and stop violent crime OR are they disarming the white population so they can't defend themselves when blacks riot?

What are they doing when they pass these laws? They can clearly see from past history that gun control laws don't work in favor of the law abiding citizen. I guess it's the stupid liberal mind set of just one more law, one more tax, just a few more dollars spent and it whould've/will work.

From what I have read , gun laws were aimed at preventing former slaves from owning guns.  I would have to say that current gun laws are aimed at keeping guns off the DemonRat plantation.
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