primitives discuss upcoming Nebraska-Wisconsin football game

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=215x186822

Oh my.

Of course, the primitives don't know excresence about sports, and some years ago chased away the only one who did, the cboy4 primitive.

SpiralHawk  (1000+ posts)     Mon Sep-26-11 02:03 PM
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#6 Vs. #8

Roh ! Six days away. The REAL Season begins Bring it...

Now, two days away, of course.

Condem  (1000+ posts)        Mon Sep-26-11 08:47 PM
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1. I hope to see some trash betwixt you and MadBadger,

Let it commence. Possibly the biggest game in the conference since Michigan-OSU in '06. This game is going to ****ing rock!!

Yeah, right, "the biggest game."

It's not Nebraska-Ohio State, so it's just only a game, a routine game.

Condem  (1000+ posts)        Tue Sep-27-11 11:32 AM
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4. I'm pretty sure this will be one of the Pool games this week.

Either this one or Purdue/ND. Of equal importance. The last one in.

Purdue-Notre Dame is of no importance; the condom primitive is showing his utter ignorance.

Capt. America (1000+ posts)     Wed Sep-28-11 01:11 PM
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6. Doesn't matter who wins, because they will meet up again in the B1G title game.

Nebraska might, but Wisconsin won't.  Moron.

Okay, most here know how franksolich feels about Nebraska football.

I dunno who's going to win Nebraska-Wisconsin, but don't particularly care.  It would be nice if my team won, but it would be a surprise, too.

Ever since the firing of Frank Solich some years ago, despite my heretofore having been born a Cornhusker, I became rather, uh, ambivalent about the fortunes of the University of Nebraska.  The firing of the rectal aperture who fired Frank Solich, a few years later, restored some of my affection, but I'm still ambivalent, even at times neutral or indifferent.

Nebraska joined the Big 10 this year, a move I personally don't like--our place is with the good and decent people of the Plains, not with effete elitist blue states--and being the new kid on the block (not to mention the smallest state in the conference, a distinction we also had with the old Big 12 and the old Big 8), we're going to be awkward, and stumble a lot.

However, by the time an (R) president is re-elected in 2016, Nebraska will have its bearings.

And by the time franksolich is an old man, the Nebraska-Ohio State will be the only game that counts, period, in the Big 10.  It's in the natural order of things, and can't possibly be any other way.

[BlueStateSaint]

And by the time franksolich is an old man, the Nebraska-Ohio State will be the only game that counts, period, in the Big 10.  It's in the natural order of things, and can't possibly be any other way.

 

Coach, I love ya, man!  (But not in that way.)

H5!

[shadeaux]

the primitives don't know excresence about sports

That is the absolute truth.

[Airwolf]

I don'[t know which way the game will go but based on the last few Nebraska games and their(Nebraska) performance in them I wouldn't be surprised to see a Wisconsin win this weekend .

[Rebel]

I don'[t know which way the game will go but based on the last few Nebraska games and their(Nebraska) performance in them I wouldn't be surprised to see a Wisconsin win this weekend .

Wisconsin has played tough, but they've still only played creme puffs. This weekend should prove who belongs.

[franksolich]

I don't know which way the game will go but based on the last few Nebraska games and their (Nebraska) performance in them I wouldn't be surprised to see a Wisconsin win this weekend.

I practically expect Wisconsin to win; it's our first Big 10 game, and we aren't used to it yet.

However, Nebraska can be weird, at times.

Times we're expected to be very very good, we flop.

As Oklahoma knows.

But it cuts both ways; other times we're expected to be pretty bad.....and win.

As Oklahoma knows.

[VelvetElvis]

I practically expect Wisconsin to win; it's our first Big 10 game, and we aren't used to it yet.

Coach, you're beginning to sound like a Democrat campaign stategist now, lowering expectations like that!

Being from the Badger state, I was hoping for some unabashed braggadoccio from Nebraska supporters ahead of the thrashing to be administered to the Huskers in their Saturday night baptism into the Big Ten.

BTW, Ohio State is sooooo last century now.

[franksolich]

Coach, you're beginning to sound like a Democrat campaign stategist now, lowering expectations like that!

Being from the Badger state, I was hoping for some unabashed braggadoccio from Nebraska supporters ahead of the thrashing to be administered to the Huskers in their Saturday night baptism into the Big Ten.

BTW, Ohio State is sooooo last century now.

It's a Nebraska policy to only speak highly of opponents, sir.

It's one of those things that makes us "different."

So no trashing of Wisconsin from me, win or lose.

Ohio State's just in a slump, and will probably be in a slump for a couple of seasons.  But I think in the long term, the long range, and in the long term, the long range, Ohio State's the only team in the Big 10 that ever counted.

Ohio State'll be back, and one can reasonably expect that over time, over the long range, in the long term, the Nebraska-Ohio State game will be the only game in the Big 10.

[franksolich]

Historically, there's a very good case for perceiving the Nebraska-Wisconsin match-up as a "rivalry."

After Nebraska was forced to join the Big 10 because Texas had ****ed up the Big 12 so much, there was much speculation about who was going to be our "main rival" in the Big 10.

The majority (although still only a plurality) sentiment seems to favor Iowa, but I have a problem with that.  Iowans are hicks, and I'd just as soon not have them be our "rival."

And as mentioned, there's good reasons for considering Wisconsin our new "main rival."

But some of us think it best to be as we've always been; the littlest kid on the block up against the biggest kid on the block.....just as it was in the Big 8 and later the Big 12.....which in this case is Ohio State.

[VelvetElvis]

Historically, there's a very good case for perceiving the Nebraska-Wisconsin match-up as a "rivalry."

After Nebraska was forced to join the Big 10 because Texas had ****ed up the Big 12 so much, there was much speculation about who was going to be our "main rival" in the Big 10.

The majority (although still only a plurality) sentiment seems to favor Iowa, but I have a problem with that.  Iowans are hicks, and I'd just as soon not have them be our "rival."

And as mentioned, there's good reasons for considering Wisconsin our new "main rival."

But some of us think it best to be as we've always been; the littlest kid on the block up against the biggest kid on the block.....just as it was in the Big 8 and later the Big 12.....which in this case is Ohio State.

Do you know that Barry Alvarez played linebacker at Nebraska and that he modelled the Wisconsin program on Nebraska?
There's an excellent article on RealClearSports  that details the Wisconsin-Nebraska connection.
http://www.realclearsports.com/2011/09/30/wisconsin_modeled_after_nebraska_94140.html

[franksolich]

Do you know that Barry Alvarez played linebacker at Nebraska and that he modelled the Wisconsin program on Nebraska?

There's an excellent article on RealClearSports  that details the Wisconsin-Nebraska connection.

http://www.realclearsports.com/2011/09/30/wisconsin_modeled_after_nebraska_94140.html

Yeah.

Wisconsin calls dibs on Nebraska's new Big Ten 'rivalry'

Geographically, Nebraska and Wisconsin are separated by Minnesota, Iowa and the Mississippi River, but they still have a lot in common: They're both synonymous with hearty, humble Midwestern stock; they're both cold; they're both predominantly Catholic and/or Lutheran; they're both leading exporters of industrial machinery; they're both decked out in red and white; their capital cities are both named for 19th Century presidents; they both claim Barry Alvarez (Nebraska Class of '69, Wisconsin head coach/athletic director 1990-present) as one of their own.

With the Cornhuskers moving into the Big Ten, then, I guess it's only natural that Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema would move to claim Nebraska for the Badgers: "I contacted the Big 10 office about hoppefully scheduling Nebraska as a last game rival on a yearly basis.  Possible starting a trophy game."

Suggested name for the rivalry: The Red Dead Redemption. It's not Paul Bunyan's Axe or the Slab of Bacon, but it'll do in a pinch.

Wisconsin-Nebraska is a rivalry that goes back more than 100 years, technically, to the teams' first meeting in Milwaukee in 1901, though they've only played four times in the intervening 109 years, in 1965-66 and 1973-74. The Badgers' other "trophy games," with long-time Big Ten rivals Minnesota and Iowa, have been staged almost every year since 1892 and 1894, respectively. The 'Huskers and Badgers haven't met since Bielema, now 40, was four years old.

Next door, however, Minnesotans of a certain age can remember when the 'Huskers were an annual menace out of the old Big Eight. Nebraska and Minnesota met 33 times in 43 years from 1932-74, and kept playing on a semi-regular basis through 1990, when Penn State's admission to the Big Ten forced the Gophers to reluctantly scuttle the series. (I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Nebraska had taken 14 in a row from Minnesota by an average score of 40-7 since 1963, including consecutive finals of 49-0, 48-7, 54-0, 84-13, 38-7, 48-0 and 56-0 over the last seven games of the series.) For some reason, Minnesota coach Tim Brewster's Twitter feed has remained suspiciously quiet over the new addition to the conference family.

The only other Big Ten outfit with any claim on a "rivalry" with Nebraska is (predictably) Iowa, once an annual opponent for the Cornhuskers until the mid-forties. But even the Hawkeyes, sitting just one state away, have only met the Big Red twice in any current player's lifetime, in 1999-2000. Unless they're still upset in Iowa City about the pilfering of the name "Cornhuskers," Bielema's opportunism may carry the day.

No way in Hell will we ever consider Iowa a rivalry; Iowa's not in Nebraska's class.

Hicks.

But see, Wisconsin already has a "main rival"--Minnesota.

We're gunning for the big one--Ohio State, which won't give a damn about Michigan after a few years of playing us.

[VelvetElvis]

It's a Nebraska policy to only speak highly of opponents, sir.

It's one of those things that makes us "different."

But see, Wisconsin already has a "main rival"--Minnesota.

These two statements cannot both be true!

[GOBUCKS]

We're gunning for the big one--Ohio State, which won't give a damn about Michigan after a few years of playing us.

Not true. OSU-Nebraska is destined to become a great tradition, a great rivalry, but OSU-Michigan is different.
 
It's good vs. evil, light vs. dark, virtue vs. wickedness. The scarlet (RED) and gray vs. the BLUE and mustard yellow.
There is no good will, no camaraderie. They are enemies, not rivals.

Right now, the football season is eleven practice games, and one that counts.
Hopefully, as the series with Nebraska develops, there will be two games that count.
But Nebraska is far too civilized and decent to ever generate the hatred of the OSU-Michigan game.
Hell, Nebraska's head coach is a Buckeye.

[franksolich]

Not true. OSU-Nebraska is destined to become a great tradition, a great rivalry, but OSU-Michigan is different.
 
It's good vs. evil, light vs. dark, virtue vs. wickedness. The scarlet (RED) and gray vs. the BLUE and mustard yellow.

There is no good will, no camaraderie. They are enemies, not rivals.

Right now, the football season is eleven practice games, and one that counts.

Hopefully, as the series with Nebraska develops, there will be two games that count.

But Nebraska is far too civilized and decent to ever generate the hatred of the OSU-Michigan game.

Hell, Nebraska's head coach is a Buckeye.

See, that's where there's most likely to be a cultural chasm between Nebraska and all the other teams in the Big 10, most especially Penn State.

This notion of "hating," even in jest, an opponent is alien to us.

Just because someone beats, or wants to beat, somebody is no reason to "hate" him.

The most acrimonious rivalry Nebraska ever had was with Missouri, when some, uh, poor sportsmanship would occur.  No Nebraska game in my lifetime ever made me more nervous than the game with Missouri; I'm very surprised the long-running series ended without ever having entailed a few fatalities.

This, however, was reasonable (and still more mild than antics taking place in other football rivalries), given that the Nebraska-Missouri rivalry was so ancient, so deep-seated.  Our former rivalry with Kansas was the longest uninterrupted series west of the Mississippi, but actually we played Missouri more times than we played anybody else.

In fact, we were playing Missouri from Day One of college football.

The little kid up against the big guy; the smallest state versus the largest state.  Missouri was manpowered, cultured, civilized; Nebraska was vastly unpeopled, raw, unworldly.  There was a "snob" attitude about it all, all of the elitism coming from down to the south and east of us. 

But Nebraska owned Missouri; it drove them nuts.

And then there's the conduct of fans; I swear, fans of Colorado and Penn State are the worst college football fans in the country, bar none.  If the "quality" of fans had anything to do with the game standings, Penn State and Colorado would be perpetual, eternal, cellar-dwellers.  They're assholes.

I went to a game one time in State College, Pennsylvania; Penn State versus some small obscure eastern college.  I was with my cousins, all of them students or alumni of Penn State.  I was shocked; these people are ****ing barbarians.

Penn State was ahead of the small obscure eastern college something like 50-0.....and Penn State fans were booing and jeering the opposing team.

Forgive my shocked innocence, my virginal naivete, but I had never seen that at a Nebraska game (or generally, at any Big 8 or Big 12 game excepting Colorado and mildly so, Iowa State).

Never.  Not once.

These people are assholes, who do shit like that.

[GOBUCKS]

Well, you have to cut Penn State some slack. Until their relatively recent admission to the Big Ten, those little eastern schools were all they played.
They got as excited about those games against Temple, and Rutgers, and Philadelphia Textile as we do about real games. They knew no better.

And I've never sensed any real enmity, or ill will, or hatred between fan bases in any Big Ten series, except Ohio State-Michigan.
For the past ten years or so, Wisconsin, and even Iowa, have been far more difficult opponents than Michigan, but it's all good sport.

[tanstaafl]

Missouri was manpowered, cultured, civilized;

Fransolich, you do realize that the tootbrush was invented in Missouri.

Antwhere else it would be called a "Teethbrush".

[GCBill]

Not true. OSU-Nebraska is destined to become a great tradition, a great rivalry, but OSU-Michigan is different.
 
It's good vs. evil, light vs. dark, virtue vs. wickedness. The scarlet (RED) and gray vs. the BLUE and mustard yellow.
There is no good will, no camaraderie. They are enemies, not rivals.

Right now, the football season is eleven practice games, and one that counts.

This is true. Either team can go 1-11, but if the victory is against THEM, the season is a success.

(btw Coach and GOBUCKS - RichRod is gone, Blue is BACK! Enjoy your visit to Hippie Central. Leave money. Take home "maybe next years")

[franksolich]

.....Blue is BACK!

I had to consult the handy-dandy Husker Sports Guide put out by "Our Family" Foods (probably some grocery store brand, but I dunno which one), because this being our first season, I'm not familiar with team colors.

Who's blue?

According to the Guide, Penn State and Michigan sport blue uniforms.

According to the same Guide:

Penn State: .....bigger challenges loom as the Nittany Lions finish with a stretch that includes a home game against designated inter-division rival [sic] Nebraska, and road games against Ohio State and Wisconsin.  There might not be a more brutal stretch in the Big 10 in 2011.....

Michigan: .....defensively, the Wolverines haven't recruited at the level necessary to win the Big 10.  They've been pushed around the past three seasons and have to make significant gains defensively as well as in the kicking game.....

[GCBill]

I had to consult the handy-dandy Husker Sports Guide put out by "Our Family" Foods (probably some grocery store brand, but I dunno which one), because this being our first season, I'm not familiar with team colors.

Who's blue?

According to the Guide, Penn State and Michigan sport blue uniforms.

According to the same Guide:

In the Big Ten, Blue (as in Maize and Blue) automatically refers to Michigan.

As for the Husker Sports Guide analysis of Michigan - the kicking game still needs some work, but other than the Notre Dame game, the defense has been rocking it, playing beyond their abilities. And the offense? If Denard Robinson can stay focused, he is an accurate and versatile QB.

Considering Michigan does not play Wisconsin this year (at least until the Big Ten championship game), it's looking like their only real challenges are (a) Nebraska and (b) not getting full of themselves. Not to overlook Ohio State, but I think the Huskers will be a bigger challenge.