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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-27-11 10:12 PMOriginal message Why white liberals are (really) ditching Obama Why white liberals are (really) ditching ObamaRacism isn't responsible for the president's drop in popularity. His right-wing policies are By David Sirota 10/26/11few weeks ago, I wrote an essay that got me a much larger truckload of hate mail than usual. The piece concerned the persistent problem of denialism in parts of White America when it comes to race. I lamented how, despite media and political insinuations that whites have become an oppressed group, it is people of color -- and in particular, African-Americans -- who remain the real casualties of discrimination:You can see in black unemployment rates, which are twice as high as white unemployment rates -- a disparity that persists even when controlling for education levels. You can see it in a 2004 MIT study showing that job-seekers with "white names receive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews" than job seekers with comparable resumes and "African-American-sounding names." And you can see it in a news media that looks like an all-white country club and a U.S. Senate that includes no black legislators.I stand by my argument. It is a fact that the most problematic and widespread application of this denialism takes the form represented by white conservatives who angrily insist that racism against minorities is not only dead, but that African-Americans enjoy undue favoritism.That said, as the 2012 presidential campaign begins in earnest, we are seeing a new strain of fact-free denialism -- one that is not as dangerous as that coming from the right, but one that is nonetheless counterproductive to the cause of racial equality.http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.h...
msongs (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-27-11 10:14 PMResponse to Original message 1. those pesky people of no color can't trusted lol nt
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-27-11 10:19 PMResponse to Reply #1 2. What kind of racial nonsense is that? WTF is "people of no color"?
Bucky (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-28-11 06:51 AMResponse to Reply #1 92. I blame you The very mention of race turns Americans into complete jibbering fools. Please notice how every comment responding to your little joke just got stupider than the last.
indepat (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-28-11 11:16 AMResponse to Reply #8 104. Let this white liberal/progressive say it again: it's not the color of skin, but the content of junior's right wing policies, initiatives, and wars ratified/continued and the content of BHO's right-wing decision to put social security, Medicare, and Medicaid on the chopping block in the wake of extending junior's tax cuts for the wealthy. Some shared sacrifice: the wealthy have sacrificed nothing, but social security and Medicare recipients are going to be required to sacrifice some already-paid-for benefits, about the most right-wing action possible, for it is tantamount to a very large and heavy tax on the most vulnerable in society, a total crock akin to a pure right-wing frontal assault on the old and frail.
ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-28-11 09:26 AMResponse to Reply #15 101. As A WHITE FEMALE... I Resent Anyone HERE Who Keeps Spouting This stuff about white people being racist because they DISAGREE with Obama. For me and so many others in my family, and many of my friends... SIMPLY NOT TRUE!I lived through the Civil Rights Era, Viet Nam et al! I lived in TEXAS when there were still TWO different water fountains and blacks were NOT allowed in restaurants and recall clearly calling STUPID people out for their IGNORANCE about these facts!I AM NO RACIST! I'm for EQUALITY FOR ALL! But I am upset, disappointed and feel betrayed by many, many things and ways that Obama has gone about his BUSINESS of being POTUS!He leaned to the RIGHT and tried to CARESS a group of people who seem to actually HATE him and won't do a damn thing to help him! And yet, he just now has decided he needs to CAMPAIGN for his base again.Good for him NOW, but it's really late in the game!This WHITE WOMAN IS NO RACIST! And I won't even add the thingey about my BLACK friends because it may be used AGAINST ME!This stuff SUCKS! I agree with you ThomCat!
Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-27-11 10:56 PMResponse to Original message 21. The funny thing is this alleged "new racism" works exactly the same as the "new anti-semitism" does. Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 10:59 PM by Poll_BlindThe trick is this: Take a stigmatizing accusation (which also has some pretty clearly-defined criteria to be met) and simply expand the criteria to cover whatever you want. Call it the "new (whatever)".It's amazingly effective at shutting down otherwise legitimate dissent or disagreement on a topic if the participants can't recognize the erroneous conflation quickly enough.I've been fascinated to watch this little crooked monster trotted out to quash otherwise thoughtful, if heated, discussion on the President's uncomfortable habit of power-capitulating to the Republicans. I'm curious to see how far they can take it before it eats itself up and becomes meaningless.From my years here, I'd say DU is in some ways like the Nellis Test Range for logical fallacies and discussion suppression techniques. One of the dubious benefits of participating is seeing the very latest nasty long before it hits the streets. Including more than a couple of tactics which never make it off the lab table and into the wild.PB
ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-28-11 09:26 AMResponse to Reply #15101. As A WHITE FEMALE... I Resent Anyone HERE Who Keeps Spouting This stuff about white people being racist because they DISAGREE with Obama. For me and so many others in my family, and many of my friends... SIMPLY NOT TRUE!
"The nation that couldn’t be conquered by foreign enemies has been conquered by its elected officials" odawg Free Republic in reference to the GOP Elites who are no difference than the Democrats
It's not fun, is it?BTW, how is Obama right wing?
The race card will be played early (like two months ago) and often. The card will played simply to keep wimpy, guilt ridden white liberals on the plantation of 0bama fail.
I am greatly amused at DUmmies whining and crying about being called racists, for not loving 0bama 100%, they probably join the racist choir everytime a repuke complains about 0bama, now their own talking points get used against them.
