Is it just me, or is this racist flamebaiting at DU?

[OhioGringo]

OK, I don't post here often. But I'm curious. I saw this on DU today, and thought it one of the most vile examples of racebaiting I've ever seen. It seems that the infamous poster Frenchiecat, whom I like to call Fascistcat, is promoting the view that any white liberals(or heaven forbid, those of us further to the left) who disagree with Obama must be succumbing to their inherent racism? It's from The Nation. Check it out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x779415

"The 2012 election may be a test of another form of electoral racism: the tendency of white liberals to hold African-American leaders to a higher standard than their white counterparts. If old-fashioned electoral racism is the absolute unwillingness to vote for a black candidate, then liberal electoral racism is the willingness to abandon a black candidate when he is just as competent as his white predecessors."

Ah, so white liberals abandon the Anointed One because he is black, not because he is just as incompetent or duplicitous as his "liberal" white predecessor, Bill Clinton.

Even if you, as I'm sure you do, may disagree with a democratic socialist such as myself on many issues, do you blame me for refusing to vote again for someone who lied to me or, at best, failed to even try to deliver? Wouldn't you be just a little bit pissed for being called racist just because you disagreed with someone?

Would you treat a Republican candidate who did the same to you any differently? Or are you sufferers of the same lesser-of-two-evilism syndrome that so many Democrats are?

No offense meant to any Libertarians, Constitutionalists, or others who consider themselves conservative but not necessarily Republican. I know there's a difference. But I'd like to know what you think of this. I am genuinely curious. Maybe we can even find common ground on what's bad political strategy and what's not.

[jukin]

You point out something I had not thought of being a conservative that is now immune to being falsely called a racist.  The left has to shore up the wimpy liberals with the constant race card because of the complete failure of the 0bama administration (w/lots of help from Nanzi Pelosi and the 110 & 111th).

I'm beginning to think that all this racist poo the leftist monkeys are flinging against the wall is for keeping the wimpy white liberals on the plantation and not to attack the conservative movement.  This is just like what happens when a black person leaves.  Those poor people are subject to the most vile and disgusting racism I have witnessed from their tolerant and inclusive former brothers and sisters.
 
Good point HI5.

[Chris_]

Frenchiecat

That's all you had to say.

Between Frenchiecat and xultar, the two of them make Louis Farrakhan sound reasonable.

[FreeBorn]

OK, I don't post here often. But I'm curious. I saw this on DU today, and thought it one of the most vile examples of racebaiting I've ever seen. It seems that the infamous poster Frenchiecat, whom I like to call Fascistcat, is promoting the view that any white liberals(or heaven forbid, those of us further to the left) who disagree with Obama must be succumbing to their inherent racism? It's from The Nation. Check it out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x779415

"The 2012 election may be a test of another form of electoral racism: the tendency of white liberals to hold African-American leaders to a higher standard than their white counterparts. If old-fashioned electoral racism is the absolute unwillingness to vote for a black candidate, then liberal electoral racism is the willingness to abandon a black candidate when he is just as competent as his white predecessors."

Ah, so white liberals abandon the Anointed One because he is black, not because he is just as incompetent or duplicitous as his "liberal" white predecessor, Bill Clinton.

Even if you, as I'm sure you do, may disagree with a democratic socialist such as myself on many issues, do you blame me for refusing to vote again for someone who lied to me or, at best, failed to even try to deliver? Wouldn't you be just a little bit pissed for being called racist just because you disagreed with someone?

Would you treat a Republican candidate who did the same to you any differently? Or are you sufferers of the same lesser-of-two-evilism syndrome that so many Democrats are?

No offense meant to any Libertarians, Constitutionalists, or others who consider themselves conservative but not necessarily Republican. I know there's a difference. But I'd like to know what you think of this. I am genuinely curious. Maybe we can even find common ground on what's bad political strategy and what's not.

Pardon me, Sir for ignoring the gist of your post as there is one choice little nugget in there which jumps right out at me.

Once election day finally does roll around and the choice of who to vote for is between Soetoro and whoever emerges from the right you will most definitely pull the lever for Soetoro, again, and you won't be holding your nose while you do it.

BTW, I do not dislike Mr. Soetoro because he's black. I dislike him because he's red.

[thundley4]

"The 2012 election may be a test of another form of electoral racism: the tendency of white black liberals to hold African-American leaders to a higher lesser standard than their white counterparts. If old-fashioned electoral racism is the absolute unwillingness to vote for a black candidate, then liberal black electoral racism is the unwillingness to abandon a black candidate when he is just as incompetent as his white predecessors."

Yes, racism will occur in the 2012 election.  See above.

[FreeBorn]

Yes, racism will occur in the 2012 election.  See above.

^5 for keeping it real.

[OhioGringo]

Freeborn, who or what is Soetoro? I am not familiar with that name.

[thundley4]

Freeborn, who or what is Soetoro? I am not familiar with that name.

Barry Soetoro is the current resident at the White House.

[zeitgeist]

That's all you had to say.

Between Frenchiecat and xultar, the two of them make Louis Farrakhan sound reasonable.

^5 Well put.

[Ballygrl]

It seems that the infamous poster Frenchiecat, whom I like to call Fascistcat, is promoting the view that any white liberals(or heaven forbid, those of us further to the left) who disagree with Obama must be succumbing to their inherent racism?

All I can say is "welcome to the world of conservatism", this is the crap we always have to put up with, along with the crap that we're "anti-women" and we don't care about "poisons in the water". It doesn't feel good does it?

[zeitgeist]

I took a quick look at the dump thread.  Oh.my.goodness.  Dummies are sliding headlong out of control on this one.  Too bad they don't stand back and look at some of the poo they are flinging.  

Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts)      Thu Sep-22-11 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
46. Clinton was indeed a "communicator". But what he was "communicating" wasn't
 always what he was doing. Otherwise, we might not have wound up with DADT; Welfare Reform; NAFTA; Telecommunications Deregulation, repeal of Glass Stegall, and of course, Monica.

Clinton got a pass because he was lucky enough to ride the dot.com wave, and most of White America had a job when he left office. Even though Black America wasn't nearly as fortunate, we were very supportive. Clinton was even luckier that he was on his way out when it all fell apart. He's the original Teflon Man

How the mighty Clintis has fallen. Once firm and tall it would appear he is now seen as limp, impotent, with a rightward bend.  

Number23  (1000+ posts)       Thu Sep-22-11 08:41 PM
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4. LOL! I got it to +3, just hit refresh and it's back to 0!!  
 Lord have mercy, this place is a freaking trip!

No amount of uncrecing will diminish the truth of Dr. Harris Perry is saying:

"If old-fashioned electoral racism is the absolute unwillingness to vote for a black candidate, then liberal electoral racism is the willingness to abandon a black candidate when he is just as competent as his white predecessors." Just as competent or even MORE so.

"...The relevant comparison here is with the last Democratic president, Bill Clinton. Today many progressives complain that Obama’s healthcare reform was inadequate because it did not include a public option; but Clinton failed to pass any kind of meaningful healthcare reform whatsoever. Others argue that Obama has been slow to push for equal rights for gay Americans; but it was Clinton who established the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy Obama helped repeal. Still others are angry about appalling unemployment rates for black Americans; but while overall unemployment was lower under Clinton, black unemployment was double that of whites during his term, as it is now. And, of course, Clinton supported and signed welfare “reform,” cutting off America’s neediest despite the nation’s economic growth."

 

Let's not forget it was ham handed attempt to get HillaryCare which helped usher in the largest turnover of Congress to the out of power party in recent history.  And that it was that party, the party which shall not be named, that made possible the booming '90's.  

This thread is a lot like a Disfunctional Family Feud.  But for the dump, abnormal is normal.

[Ballygrl]

cbayer  DU Moderator Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-23-11 07:14 PM
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371. Locking
   
Locking at original poster's request

cbayer
DU Moderator

No idea why people are allowed to throw crap out there and then turn around and ask their thread to be locked.

[Ballygrl]

Go to the Nation Link here and read the comments:

http://www.thenation.com/article/163544/black-president-double-standard-why-white-liberals-are-abandoning-obama

Nothing funnier than regessives getting their panties in a wad because they're being called racist!

[franksolich]

That's all you had to say.

Between Frenchiecat and xultar, the two of them make Louis Farrakhan sound reasonable.

You know, I've always, ever since she first showed up on Skins's island, found FrenchieCat to be a rather trite, shallow, superficial entity with no substance in her.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=negrophile

The term is often used in particular for people in America especially in New England, New York, and elsewhere along the northern East Coast of the United States who ostensibly base their business, political, or social practices on like of or admiration for Black models.

In some cases, Negrophilia represents an individual's preference of Black culture to their own; or the belief that Black culture is superior, or appreciation of Black history. Negrophiles commonly are found in the middle to upper class predominantly white neighborhoods.

A white woman who is only attracted to black men.

The above's a fair assessment of her, I think.

I'm sure she's destined to be one of the top DUmmies of next year, 2012.

[zeitgeist]

No idea why people are allowed to throw crap out there and then turn around and ask their thread to be locked.

I suspect the mod who's job it is to monitor this site ... oh wait, was I supposed to say that?  Never mind.

[Ballygrl]

I suspect the mod who's job it is to monitor this site ... oh wait, was I supposed to say that?  Never mind.

I have no idea what that means LOL.

[franksolich]

I have no idea what that means LOL.

The notorious Bayer aspirin primitive, the thread slayer on Skins's island who doesn't like us.

[Chris_]

The notorious Bayer aspirin primitive, the thread slayer on Skins's island who doesn't like us.

Awww.

Tough shit.

[Ballygrl]

Oh! I didn't think of that.

[zeitgeist]

The notorious Bayer aspirin primitive, the thread slayer on Skins's island who doesn't like us.

Exactly.  That thread was becoming a danger to group think.  The only hope the OP had was to throw himself on the mercy of the mods once it show up here.     Better to bail once it stated to run off the rail than take an Arkansas dirt nap.

[chitownchica]

I bookmarked this article last night with the intention of bringing it over.  I don't read The Nation, but another article I read led me to it. It is sad embarrassing to see a college professor try to prove her argument on such faulty statistics.  I will admit that it was mildly amusing to see the same tired charge we've been accused of finally being used on the left.  Those of us on the conservative side have heard it so much that it doesn't phase us much anymore. When the charge is so watered down as to be used anytime someone disagrees with the President, well, what can I convey beyond being sad for those who have a legitimate claim ? This certainly doesn't help.  The unintended consequences surely aren't worth the cheap point the speaker thinks he scores.

[FreeBorn]

Very well put, ctc.  +

[chitownchica]

Very well put, ctc.  +

Thanks FreeBorn. I wonder if this will come back to haunt the O-bots?  If you don't support Obama, you didn't get a pony, you are a Freeper disrupting troll, you want to hand the office over to evil incarnate, or you are a RACIST.  I think they should continue down this path. Undecided and underwhelmed voters will surely jump onboard given those choices  .

[franksolich]

You point out something I had not thought of being a conservative that is now immune to being falsely called a racist.

That's very true.  It was so overused and a lie anyway, about Republicans and conservatives during 2008, that it won't work any more.

The left has to shore up the wimpy liberals with the constant race card because of the complete failure of the 0bama administration...,,

I'm beginning to think that all this racist poo the leftist monkeys are flinging against the wall is for keeping the wimpy white liberals on the plantation.....

Uh huh, a sign of desperation.  Now that the rats are leaving a sinking ship, to join us rats who never got on the ship anyway, they're trying to keep as many on board as possible.

Those poor people are subject to the most vile and disgusting racism I have witnessed from their tolerant and inclusive former brothers and sisters.

Yep, but that's a characteristic of the left anyway; they're more savage and brutal and genocidal towards their own (former) allies and associates than they are towards their opponents.

[JohnnyReb]

Well just call me racist then. I didn't vote for the red S.O.B. the first time and I won't vote for the red S.O.B. this time either.

...but I may, Florida caucus and all, have to vote for a black man this time...and my racist, southern, redneck, ass won't have any problem at all doing it....6 or more times... ...hey, I got dead family I have to vote for....