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DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« on: September 16, 2011, 10:48:42 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1954150

It can be fun to watch DUmmies go back and forth on the virtues of their trashing Christians and then realize the utter hypocrisy of what they have done. :popcorn:


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So let me get this straight about minorities it is ok to ridicule on DU...
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Today I saw a thread with numerous posters mocking the Amish men who were arrested for not having orange triangles on their buggies.

The denigrating comments included remarks about their hair, beards and looks. I mean...discussion of the issue of the triangles is one thing, but the stupid mean comments about looks? I mean REALLY? Are you that shallow? I was really amazed at some of the posts. I guess I shouldn't be...I've been around here long enough.

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I looked for the thread and can't find it or I would have commented there. If it has been removed then great...and kudos to the mods if that is the case. I'm not a usual OPer, but this pissed me off royally.
I've never known anyone Amish...but I was amazed at the hypocrisy of the posters...the same ones who would scream to the heavens if anyone DARED denigrate Muslim clothing or hairstyles. How about Hasidic Jews? Ok to pick on their hairstyles?

You folks laughing and joking like a bunch of mean high school girls on that thread need a reality check.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 12:42:55 AM »
They went on and on, trashing each other.
I wouldn't have thought a tread like that could cause such an uproar.
It did.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 03:38:46 AM »
The same old Libtard meme.

"We are better than you".

"You must be absorbed by us and surrender all thought processes".

"You have no clue, so we will do the thinking for you".

"There now, isn't that better".

We have the Virgin Mary and they have Nurse Ratched.

They hate (and yes, I said HATE, a very strong four letter word) the Amish because the Amish represent everything they wish to destroy. Family. Respect for one another. Fear of God. Teaching one's own children these same tenants without being subject to some outside body with a differing agenda or life view.

There you go. That's Libtards for you, always being busybodies to go out of their own way to impose rules upon other that they have no intention whatsover of adhering to or allowing to be applied to themselves. Libtards.  :bird:

I get a little bitchy when it comes to people going out of their way to single out the Amish and deliberately bring them trouble. If you want trouble with the Amish that's what is takes, going well out of your way to find it.

The Amish were my neighbors for five years. I interacted with them often during that time. I knew some of their culture before I discovered after a move of just a few miles that they were my neighbors and for most of that time we didn't interact beyond waving while passing each other on the road or while coming across them in the woods while hunting as their property bordered mine. After I moved my new home was just a quarter mile from an Amish home, on the same road. Before I moved I also had an Amish farm bordering my back yard but their house was a long way off, back door to back door on another road. I only saw that family's men when they were out in the back field and that wasn't often.

Among the "English" as they call us, everybody else, most folks took a derogatory view of them and jokes were rampant. Well, in my view so was sitting around for half the year on unemployment while smoking dope and playing video games in your trailer so once I moved out of the urban area around Buffalo following my divorce into the country I didn't think much of the locals anyway.

The Amish are put-offish at first if you are their new neighbor and rightly so. They put up with a lot of sh!t from those around them and they just want to be left alone. Once they realized that I wasn't another binocular toting tourist they went from just waving like everybody does to actually waving because they know who you are.
So there it pretty much stays, no lovey dovey. I spent money at their businesses too because when you live in the middle of nowhere you can certainly drive 40 miles to the big box for lumber or get it from them and it is not dimensional commercial lumber but top grade hardwood and not expensive. I stopped growing a vegetable garden in those years because I worked a lot of hours at an aluminum foundry and they had ample produce for sale on the side of the road for cheap and no chemicals went into it. They are very picky about that, BTW, I once overheard a conversation between an Amish woman and an English about getting several yards of horse manure delivered and the seller kept harping on the price while all the woman wanted to know was were the horses fed feed grown with fertilizers (chemicals). That's what was hanging up the sale, if it was all organic that was fine, if not then no way.

So you get to know people when you live around them. The icebreaker came -literally- during a blizzard. I worked second shift at the foundry and got home about 1:00 a.m. usually. One night I got out on time but a blizzard had got started a good hour before I got out and it took me two hours to get home, the usual being twenty five minutes to do the 20 miles. I got there down the highway o.k., slow as it was but turning off onto my dirt road and dealing with the hills is what burned the time. I was almost home, driving into that disorienting deluge of a constant torrent of big wet snowflakes coming into the windshield like a curving swarm.

If you've never driven in that it is hard to describe. Likely the toughest driving experience one is likely to have, and on an unplowed road too. Churning along in a compact front wheel drive car on a dirt road is challenging to say the least, and there she was. Right in front of me. A cow. Not some yearling heifer, mind you, a f*cking tank on hooves. I'm lucky it was a straight stretch of road. Going back to the driving in a blizzard part, to flesh that out a bit, you can't see sh!t beyond maybe twenty feet ahead so you go as fast as you are comfortable with, about 25 mph which under those conditions seems plenty fast. You don't dare go slower because if you get stuck, yer f*cked. You just stop. That's perilous because oncoming traffic or even someone coming up behind you can't see you until they are right on you. Smack. You don't dare go too fast either because this is hill country and the ditches are big, swallow a car big. So you get to know your vehicle and stick to the speed that keeps you moving forward without spinning out or bogging down, a steady churn ahead.

So there's this cow now suddenly materialized out of the abyss I'm looking through while leaning down forward and viewing my world through that 6 inches of clear windshield that isn't fogged just above the dash. She sees me just as I see her, she lurches up and away to my right as I jerk the wheel for a second left and then back straight but it doesn't matter. I hockey puck and skitter off into the ditch ahead on the left. Done. I am sunk. I wish I had a picture to convey how bad that is. Whole front of the car swallowed up straight down with the back corner sticking up in the air. So I got out and had a smoke. Glad I wasn't stuck in the middle where someone would come along and hit me and even far enough that the plow might miss me too but if he had his wing down I'd be liable.

So there I am having a Marlboro and assessing the calamity when again out of the grayness appears Miss Gertie and scares the crap out of me because I don't hear her coming for the deep snow and the flurries are still swarming but as I turn toward the road I'm faced with a huge head and snotty nose. I know right away whose cow it is because it doesn't have plastic ear tags like my other neighbor's cows. Standing there facing me, just standing there. If bovines are sideways to you and making eye contact that's potentially not good. She came right up, head down and just stood. Both of us probably had the same look on our faces at that moment.

She did have a nylon bridle on so I took her by that and we started hoofing it up the road. She went right along, no problem. Had to be about 4:00 or later when I got to the house and found the dog chain by the front tree in the snow that I knew was there, I clipped her to it and knocked on the door. I knocked on the door some more. I beat on the door and finally a light shone coming down the stairs, a handheld battery flashlight. Mr.XXXXX. He was very happy to get his cow back and told me she was gone for two weeks. He invited me in for coffee and we talked for about half an hour because he could see that I was very cold and you know what? He didn't have horns coming out of his head and he didn't have a stupid muppets Swedish chef accent either. He was just a farmer who would prefer to be left alone. The next morning after I had gone home I met him on the road as he had offered and he was there with is sons and got my car hauled out of that ditch with his team of percherons.

The Amish are decent honest people who just want to be left alone. They don't want to know you. They don't want you to know them. That's fine with me. The problem the Amish run into in America is that the Libtards won't leave them be. The Amish don't go looking for you, do they?



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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 04:47:18 AM »
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treestar   (1000+ posts)             Fri Sep-16-11 09:15 PM
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10. Don't know but they are not an oppressed minority - they
   
are living in a way they choose. They're not victims. They are white, too. White people choosing to live a different way. Not excluded from society or limited by the society's rules.

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27. Well it's "OK" to denigrate a group so long as they are not oppressed
   
It's OK to denigrate "Republicans" let's say. Or lawyers or doctors or corporate executives. Or Catholics. Not always nice, or correct, but it's just not the same as where a group has a history of oppression.

The Amish just don't. They make a choice and get to live the way they want.

It's okay to make fun because they are white.

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34. Religion deserves no special protection from mockery...
   
As the saying goes, if you don't want people laughing at your beliefs, don't have such funny beliefs.

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So if you have the funny belief that it is perfectly acceptable and natural to stuff body parts into an orifice that is naturally intended for egress of feces we can make fun of you? I'll keep that in mind rump ranger.

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24. They are not Jewish or Muslim, therefore we can make fun of them
   
Those white people who are christians, well we have an open season tag on them - cause they are not like us and are in the majority (and they all work together, all of us white christian people have secret meetings ya know).

The Amish - well they are like the Jewish people in Germany back in the day, secretive, evil (run puppy mills), and want to rule the world and make us all use buggies.

If you believe in Jesus, well, you are part of the evil (and stupid sky fairy) cult and folks can rant about how terrible you are (try posting a thread about jews similar to ones about the Amish...locked, deleted, and you are banned - lump the Amish together and you are ok though)....

With normal, decent people I would say that The Straight Story is being sarcastic; however, as this is the DUmp and normal, decent people are a rarity there who knows for sure.

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 05:24:14 AM »
I really loathe that place. The thing these retards don't get is many of us good decent people over here, even those who think Islam is destructive and a warrior's code don't make fun of the people who dress really according to their cultural heritage. I may think a Muslim headscarf is odd, especially on a 95 degree day, but I wouldn't dream to mock the woman wearing it. Where I was raised, that was what was called common decency. Kudos to the DUers who pointed out the hypocracy and shame on those who think somehow not being some 'oppressed class' means it's open season. Apparently, that idiot treestra doesn't get if there are enough people like him/it/her in the world, then that which they are mocking has the potential to be an oppressed class. Words have meaning, asshole.

We won't even bring up the fact that Amish, like many others who came here, came for religious freedom; there is a natural assumption there that that which they were escaping was more OPPRESSIVE to freedom of religious belief and its expression. We will also ignore the fact that nearly every group in history at some point has faced the sting of oppression or prejudice of some kind and here's a concept for you DUmmies: not all oppression was because of the color of someone's skin *gasp* IN fact, it seems to me that much of the oppression that happened throughout history was directly related to someone who got pissy over another person's religious beliefs and chose to take that hatred to an extreme--sound familiar morons?

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 06:40:44 AM »
Free, I Hi 5 you for an excellent piece of writing and your take on the Amish.

I too lived around the Amish but in Tenn.  I saw them from time to time at Wallmart the boys with the hats and girls in ankle length skirts and caps on their heads.   The kids were wide eyed in the video section watching the TVs for sale, reminded me of myself when parents finally bought a color TV in the early 1960's.  WOW, this is better then Butter.

They did not bring their horse and buggy to the store they hired a car and driver to transport them. I do wish I had paid attention to what they bought, perhaps staples like flour and sugar, I do remember some bought fabric by the bolt.

The children looked healthier then mine, faces aglow with health, seemed like happy kids, quiet but smiling allot and had self control, even the little ones did not yell or race about the store.  This was not as I saw it out of fear of a parent, this was the way they were raised.  Respectfull of others.

Interesting life style much different from the Polygamist Sects of the Mormon family's.  Whole different world for the kids, same idea of life style but non of the Amish married off their 12 year old daughters to their 50 year old uncle.

I do understand that when the children reach a late teen age they are not forced but encouraged to spend a year in the ---OUTSIDE world.----This is important to allow them to make life decisions on how they wish to live their adult life, to stay outside or to come home to their family's.  Not surprisingly most come home, girls pregnant or boys drug addicted, they are excepted back into the family and go on to live the life they were brought up in.   

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 08:26:11 AM »

Excellent piece, sir.

And so right on target; the Amish are an introverted people who do no harm and just want to be left alone, and so should be left alone.

As for this by the Sid primitive:

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.....if you don't want people laughing at your beliefs, don't have such funny beliefs.

This of course is why the DUmpster exists; for decent and civilized people to laugh at the strange beliefs of the primitives.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 10:14:48 AM »
I thought the liberals said that differences amongst people should be celebrated, not mocked.
Of course that only applies if they happen to agree with those differences, or if that culture happens to hate America then they will not worry about trivial things like that group wanting to kill them for their sins.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 10:16:51 AM »
I thought the liberals said that differences amongst people should be celebrated, not mocked.

Of course that only applies if they happen to agree with those differences, or if that culture happens to hate America then they will not worry about trivial things like that group wanting to kill them for their sins.

Uh huh.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 12:17:35 PM »
The fart sniffing DUmmie perverts are envious of the Amish getting to follow a farting horse/mule all day.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 01:52:22 PM »
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27. Well it's "OK" to denigrate a group so long as they are not oppressed
  
It's OK to denigrate "Republicans" let's say. Or lawyers or doctors or corporate executives. Or Catholics. Not always nice, or correct, but it's just not the same as where a group has a history of oppression.

Fool.  This DUmmie has absolutely no clue what they speak of.  Religious persecution was exactly the reason that my family came over here in the early part of the 18th century, to get away from the Catholics and Protestants alike, as did many others in the Anabaptist faith.  

Our line of the family left from the Mennonite church after my great-grandfather was too enamored with the ladies to perform his pastoral duties.  :naughty:



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34. Religion deserves no special protection from mockery...
   
As the saying goes, if you don't want people laughing at your beliefs, don't have such funny beliefs.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »
Global Warming.  'nuff said.

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 06:05:36 PM »
Free, I Hi 5 you for an excellent piece of writing and your take on the Amish.

I too lived around the Amish but in Tenn.  I saw them from time to time at Wallmart the boys with the hats and girls in ankle length skirts and caps on their heads.   The kids were wide eyed in the video section watching the TVs for sale, reminded me of myself when parents finally bought a color TV in the early 1960's.  WOW, this is better then Butter.

They did not bring their horse and buggy to the store they hired a car and driver to transport them. I do wish I had paid attention to what they bought, perhaps staples like flour and sugar, I do remember some bought fabric by the bolt.

The children looked healthier then mine, faces aglow with health, seemed like happy kids, quiet but smiling allot and had self control, even the little ones did not yell or race about the store.  This was not as I saw it out of fear of a parent, this was the way they were raised.  Respectfull of others.

Interesting life style much different from the Polygamist Sects of the Mormon family's.  Whole different world for the kids, same idea of life style but non of the Amish married off their 12 year old daughters to their 50 year old uncle.

I do understand that when the children reach a late teen age they are not forced but encouraged to spend a year in the ---OUTSIDE world.----This is important to allow them to make life decisions on how they wish to live their adult life, to stay outside or to come home to their family's.  Not surprisingly most come home, girls pregnant or boys drug addicted, they are excepted back into the family and go on to live the life they were brought up in. 
 
They weren't Old Order Amish then. It's called Rumspringa and it happens when they turn 16. They come home  because if they don't they are shunned and not allowed to live among the faithful until they join the amish church.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 06:28:36 PM »
My mother was from PA Dutch country (Lebanon Co.) and so I grew up knowing what the Amish were and enjoying their wonderful cooking. I can't tell you how much I really admire them as a people, so it really irritates me when those who know nothing about them mock them.

Then again, I don't know why I am surprised. The DUmmies would mock Jesus if given the chance.

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They not only would, they do, early and often. I stopped lurking over there at all because of it, you'd almost have to go to sites which are dedicated anti-Christian sites (or am I being redundant) to read more blasphemy. I can take reading opposing, if delusional, political opinions, I can't take seeing the name of my Saviour taken in vain. They think MLK had it tough and would pile on anyone who spoke the least bit lightly of him, what do they think Jesus of Nazareth went through?



My mother was from PA Dutch country (Lebanon Co.) and so I grew up knowing what the Amish were and enjoying their wonderful cooking. I can't tell you how much I really admire them as a people, so it really irritates me when those who know nothing about them mock them.

Then again, I don't know why I am surprised. The DUmmies would mock Jesus if given the chance.

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 01:56:40 PM »
I don't know why anyone would mock the Amish, what's to mock?  They're just good and decent people who happen to live differently. 
We have many of them here, they trot past the house every evening.  Sometimes they'll stop and buy a Hoffman with kraut from me.  I buy sweetcorn & homemade bread from them.

I knew a guy who was friends with everybody; he asked an Amish guy once, "Walter (let's call him), when you come out of church on Sunday morning, how do you know which buggy is yours?  They all look alike."  He replied, "When you come out of church, how do you know which car is yours?  They all look alike to me."   :)

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24. They are not Jewish or Muslim, therefore we can make fun of them

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24. They are not Jewish or Muslim, therefore we can make fun of them
   
Those white people who are christians, well we have an open season tag on them - cause they are not like us and are in the majority (and they all work together, all of us white christian people have secret meetings ya know).

The Amish - well they are like the Jewish people in Germany back in the day, secretive, evil (run puppy mills), and want to rule the world and make us all use buggies.

If you believe in Jesus, well, you are part of the evil (and stupid sky fairy) cult and folks can rant about how terrible you are (try posting a thread about jews similar to ones about the Amish...locked, deleted, and you are banned - lump the Amish together and you are ok though)....

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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 10:01:29 PM »
A few years ago at our former home (I think it was) Ralph posted a list of of people in the "reality based community). I laughed so hard I thought I'd pee my bloomers. In addition to UGP's pineapple story there was one person whose personal god grabbed her by her hair and whacked her around. I still laugh at the picture of that in my head! Incidentally, I love pineapple and have been known to eat a whole one in a day when it's a particularly good one. Not once have I ever been able to do any remote viewing beyond the "eyes in the back of my head" that most mothers have. I've come to the conclusion that it must be a special talent only gifted to female pansexual "furries" who think they're male panthers who, when they were kittens, used to take their food outside and eat in the bushes.

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If i remember correctly UGP also had a spirit guide called "Blackie The Ghost Chicken" Wish i could find that thread where she referenced it on DU...It was one of the most insane things she has ever posted...and that's saying something.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2011, 10:06:59 PM »
If i remember correctly UGP also had a spirit guide called "Blackie The Ghost Chicken" Wish i could find that thread where she referenced it on DU...It was one of the most insane things she has ever posted...and that's saying something.
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2011, 10:13:16 PM »
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Ghost chickens and warnings
   
I used to have a pet rooster. He was the coolest bird ever.
I got him as a chick,he was a black cute chirpy puffball.I named him Blackie.Most chicks are yellow but Blackie stood out with his inky feathers.He grew up into a handsome jungle fowl rooster with 6 inch dagger like spurs on his ankles that were used against a bullying dog named chipper,who intimidated and chased my dog Mikey. Chipper never came in the yard after that because he feared Blackie...Blackie was a bit vain about his tail,which was beautiful grand display that had him strutting like a peacock to impress the ladies.I used to tell him he was such a hen heart-breaker with that tail.Anyways I had him for around 7 years.He used to crow in the morning and he was so loud he'd wake me up for school.When I got home,I would snatch the cat, and we would crawl into the coop which held the rabbits and doves and chickens. I played my battery operated radio and pet everyone. My cat Rikki and Blackie would lay together sometimes.I could take this chicken anywhere.He would just perch on me. He came when called,He would fly up and perch on my arm if I asked him to. Sometimes he got so comfy resting in the crook of my arm he'd settle his head into my armpit and fall asleep... and he snored too..
I dunno if people understand how beautiful Chickens are.This is what Blackie looked like.He was a Jungle Fowl like this one..a kind of chicken native to Thiland and Asia. Except his Comb was the "Pea" style comb.


I dream of him once in awhile.Sometimes I see his spirit in a tree in the backyard,or walking around.I even saw him in the hospital along with my cat when I had surgery(pre-op)making sure all was ok.. I see his head bobbing back and forth out of the corner of my eye in the house too.I get messages from him. Here is one I had awhile ago and my thoughts on it.

Before the "Bird Flu" scare hit the news a few years ago I dreamed of Blackie. At first he was walking west into the sun. He walked past pits full of burnt and burning dead chickens. He walked to texas and to a veterinary lab facility there. I followed him. He led me to a bio lab where chickens were being tested or injected with something.I saw an image that looked like raspberries.He led me to factory farms filled to capacity with caged chickens that were traumatized and crazy from stress some were suicidal.. They got sick.I saw a few people getting sick from them.The Chickens were angry and calling justice upon the people handling them in factory farms for mistreating them.Blackie warned me about Bird Flu,before it hit the news.I just didn't know it until after the fact..

It would be interesting to see if Bird Flu is bio-engineered.
Considering it is factory farms that are most guilty of spreading it,and it's small local farmers that treat their birds better who are getting their birds culled by their governments,and wild migratory birds being culled while factory farms are not so scrutinized continue to abuse chickens for profits .Anyways I think Blackie was trying to tell me why there is bird flu now. It's because factory farms abuse the chickens in their care and the chickens can't take it anymore.Also there is a spiritual reason.

I have had a habit of caring for injured birds and loving the birds and animals I meet.I thank the spirits of the animals that inhabited the bodies of whatever meat I am eating comes from,and I give them my appreciation.I offer them comfort if they show me images of their life and try to relate. I apologize for their suffering and tell the animal spirits that what is being done to them by factory farms is wrong...It seems they need to hear that acknowledgment,even if you cannot stop the'machine'they seem comforted to know not all humans are in denial..

I am very disgusted by corporate farms.And I am even more disgusted because of what animals have shown me. But I also realize if you are poor you don't have alot of options,the animals understand this when I tell them.The chickens seem to understand that too.But also they are saying they are being abused and they want every human to realize that and admit it is wrong. And so they are pushing back in their own way for a solution to their own suffering. This is why there is a bird flu. It is a cry for justice.So if we will not stop corporate abuse of chickens or at least acknowledge that abuse of animals by corporations is wrong,than the chickens will use their powers to hurt us until we stop abusing them.This is what it has come to.

This is the gist of the messages I have gotten from Blackie about Bird flu.

He also asks for our appreciation & blessings for all chickens,and whatever other meat we eat and asks us for help for all animals mistreated by for profit corporations that think living beings are just products to use and abuse..

I saw Blackie again in a dream ,a few days ago,he asked me to tell people about the dreams. To tell them why and to warn them.
Blackie himself is torn up inside.. He knows people can be kind, he was giving me memories of snuggling with me, from a chickens perspective and it choked me up.And after that he showed me some asshole on a factory farm assembly line dumping a chicken that was not dead yet into a scalding tank,I saw this incident from that chickens point of view and it was horrific. I felt so sad after the fear wore off..

Blackie was saying he was confused about humans. He wants people to understand chickens have spirits too and they feel and they are not stupid. He told me the spirits of chickens at factory farms are in anguish they are confused and they linger around the Earth because they don't know what to do.They are angry and traumatized and they are causing problems because nobody cares about their spirits as if they don't have spirits. So they are stuck in a kind of limbo.
I think the Chickens are asking us to help them somehow,even if it is simple acknowledgment of the abuses that go on are wrong while we eat chicken and to help their spirits to go home..

In the most recent dream,Blackie showed me Maryland,he took me to Montgomery County ,He took me to Delaware too, somewhere on the eastern shore,and showed me in pictures that Bird Flu will be here this summer from the looks of the trees it looked like june or july..

So I'm putting this up here.For Blackie.
We need to help the chicken spirits go home.We need to help the chickens suffering here if we can.If we want to avoid being hit hard by the Bird Flu.
:o Holy Christ! If there were a Hall Of Fame for the insane...UGP would be a first balloter at it's opening! :o Thanks for finding it  GOBUCKS. :cheersmate:
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 02:18:36 AM »
Oh no! If only I would've known! I think Blackie reincarnated himself on my farm. He was an asshole. I had to continually kick his ass around the yard. I shot him & made him into soup (I called him Gumbo, not knowing he was a spirit guide) and never thanked him!
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 04:22:20 AM »
Unlike UGP I only need to know 2 things about chickens. 1. Watch your step, they crap all over the place. And 2. They always taste like chicken...but even better deep fried in lard(hog fat).
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Re: DU'ers have a brief moment of introspection on bashing the Amish
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 07:25:47 AM »
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He was an asshole. I had to continually kick his ass around the yard. I shot him & made him into soup
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