The President proposes National health plan; Social Security suggested as patter

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Sep-16-11 05:14 AM
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The President proposes National health plan; Social Security suggested as pattern for program
   
The President today proposed a nationwide system of compulsory health insurance as the key point of a 4-part national health plan.

The President, without mentioning figures, recommended to Congress that the nationwide health insurance plan be operated along the lines of the Social Security program with regular contributions by the public to an insurance fund. He did not say how much the tax should be.

The present Social Security system of old age insurance covers about 37,000,000 wage earners. The Administration is trying to expand it.

"We should seek to include as many persons as possible within the health insurance system, so that more may benefit, and costs can be more widely shared," Mr. Truman said..."The truth is it will save more than it will cost...More and better care can be obtained for this same amount under the program I am recommending." - 4/22/1949, Toledo Blade

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=OulOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=...

What a socialist. :eyes: Will this country never recognize health care as a fundamental and universal human right?

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The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations in 1948, proclaimed that "everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of oneself and one's family, including food, clothing, housing, and medical care."

Although this statement of high principle was adopted at the urging of the United States, and although it reflects the truths of our nation's founding documents, our government has achieved neither formal recognition nor practical realization of these rights. Mass homelessness and the escalating health care crisis in the US are compelling evidence of our disregard for human rights. Sadly, our country is but one of many nations where grave offenses against the dignity of human beings are commonplace, and global enforcement of human rights remains a distant goal. In the US, however, the twin advantages of democratic institutions and great wealth provide the opportunity for our nation to implement the principles human rights. Implementation of human rights principles will lead inexorably to the elimination of mass homelessness.

http://www.nhchc.org/humanright.html
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Hey what a wonderful idea, now instead of being forced to pay into one govt program that i will never see a dime from, let's make it 2. 

Major Hogwash (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri Sep-16-11 05:19 AM
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1. President Obama is going to be re-elected in a landslide next year,
   
He's probably going to get more than 400+ votes in the electoral college.
You heard it here first.

You forgot your sarcasm tag.

[Erasmus]

He's a marxist.  People can deny it all they want, but the worthless SOB is a marxist.  And yes, socialism IS a dirty word.

[JohnnyReb]

He's a marxist.  People can deny it all they want, but the worthless SOB is a marxist.  And yes, socialism IS a dirty word.

Grandparents, mother, father, stepfather, Frank Evans, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinski(?), Cloward-Piven and a few more does not make him a communist...he was born stupid.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Major Hogwash (1000+ posts)
Fri Sep-16-11 05:19 AM
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1. President Obama is going to be re-elected in a landslide next year,
   
He's probably going to get more than 400+ votes in the electoral college.
You heard it here first.

Major hogwash indeed. 

If Obama does win, it will NOT be by a landslide.  It would be similar to the margin that Bush beat Kerry in 2004, with just a few key states making the difference.

[Texacon]

Maybe I'm missing something but this isn't something O'bama is proposing right?  This looks like something the DUmmie pulled from 1949.

KC

[Carl]

Maybe I'm missing something but this isn't something O'bama is proposing right?  This looks like something the DUmmie pulled from 1949.

KC

That is correct and implying how much better off we would be. 

[JohnnyReb]

Maybe I'm missing something but this isn't something O'bama is proposing right?  This looks like something the DUmmie pulled from 1949.

KC

It is....and it shows just how stubborn jackasses can be.

[Carl]

It is....and it shows just how stubborn jackasses can be.

Well life expectancy under that would still probably be 63 so SS would take longer to go broke.

[NHSparky]

Major hogwash indeed. 

If Obama does win, it will NOT be by a landslide.  It would be similar to the margin that Bush beat Kerry in 2004, with just a few key states making the difference.

And most of those "key states" are firmly against Obumbles.

[JohnnyReb]

Well life expectancy under that would still probably be 63 so SS would take longer to go broke.

A 1950 level of care is what the democrats want to take us all (all but them) back too. Think about it...no CAT scan, no MRI, no heart surgery for older folks, no hip replacements, no chemo, not much of anything compared to today's medicine. The cost of healthcare has skyrocketed because the level of care has also skyrocketed.

[Erasmus]

Grandparents, mother, father, stepfather, Frank Evans, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinski(?), Cloward-Piven and a few more does not make him a communist...he was born stupid.

Even Keynes wouldn't have wanted to attack business the way Obama and democrats in Congress do these days.  If you're championing bigger government 100% of the time, and favor more government spending than Keynes probably would have, you have to be in Marxist territory.

Everyone is born stupid.  Obama has just stayed that way.

[miskie]

This is not going to end well for The One..

The average person is going to immediately wonder why Obama wants to spend more money on another heathcare option when he already spent a ton of money on one already.

They are also going to wonder why he is focusing on this instead of jobs.