There's spin and then there's holy ****ing WOW

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

First, the set-up...

Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 12:38 PM
Original message
Obama's disapproval rating hits new high

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Sarah Ibarruri  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. I am struck with how helpless he comes across. 
 I don't understand what's happening and why.

Now, the spin that outpaces the Hadron Collider...

Tesha  (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-14-11 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. I think his biggest problem stems from his childhood.
 He's trying to compensate for the lack of a father in his life
by always trying to win praise from those he perceives as the
"Alpha males" and that's the bullying Republicans.

(He won't get that praise, of course.)

That characteristic makes him almost-totally ineffective
as our Party's leader and means more bad news for us
in 2012.

Tesha

DLnyc  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Interesting
 Another angle is his very persistent focus (obsession?) with bringing opposing groups together. This has been his theme from his speech at the 2004 convention (". . . not red states or blue states, but United States . . .), his race speech in Philadelphia and in so much of his legislative proposals. I think we all listen to his words and take some as "he's just saying that to get elected" and others as "he really means that". But now I feel I see that it was always this bringing-opposing-groups-together thing that is the one he really means.

For the record, I think it is an admirable personality trait, but an absolute, unmitigated disaster as a governing strategy.

But your angle of looking for the lost father has some merit also, I think. I have to ponder it for a while.

And I agree it is also a disaster as a governing strategy.

Yo_Mama (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-14-11 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. But it's one of the reasons why people like him
 And they do (on average). Given the economic conditions, you'd expect his poll numbers to be far worse. People recognize something in Obama that's very good.

But he hasn't been able to translate that into functional policies.

OK, so Obama is no leader of the free world; he's a quivering little boy on the inside who, when confronted by domestic political opponents, only seeks their approval but they in turn are "alpha males" a naturalist term describing the fitness to propogate within one's own pack so the pack itself can survive in a larger, more hostile world.

That's not me saying it, that's them and they approve of it.

No wonder the welfare set--those too sick, weak, lame and unmotivated to survive on thei own--flock to his flock.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4994042

[Doubleplusungood]

I'll take the "alpha male" comment as a compliment. Especially since its the diametric opposite of the pansie-assed "men" at the DUmp. What a knee slapper though about looking for praise from "bullying Republicans". Yeah right. I am still so pissed off over the individual mandate that is going to use the "bullying" of big brother to take my freedom from me. The DUmmies are projecting again.

[bijou]

Or maybe it's something else ...

You Sad, Bro? Gawker Claims That NYT Reporters Working On A Story About The President's... Clinical Depression

I don't believe it. Gawker and the rest of these are trashy link-bait. They caveat this, saying the story could just wind up something like "Strains of Office Take Toll on President," your standard issue Man at a Crossroads piece, without mentioning depression.

But they say they know for a fact that reporters believe the depression angle, even if they don't print that.

Either way, Gawker's covered, aren't they? All we know is that there is probably a "President Takes Little Joy In Duty" story.

But, I can't really resist, so:

    We hear the New York Times is looking into whether it's all starting to get to him—like, clinically.

    We're told by a source inside the Times that the paper is preparing a story arguing that Obama no longer finds joy in the political back-and-forth, has seemed increasingly listless to associates, and is generally exhibiting the litany of signs that late-night cable commercials will tell you add up to depression.

    ...

    So the story in question, if it ever comes out, may not end up supporting the depression thesis. But rest assured: There are people at the Times who, based on the paper's reporting, believe Obama is depressed—the kind of depression where, if he weren't the president of the United States, he wouldn't be getting out of bed in the morning.  ...

http://minx.cc/?post=321360

[JohnnyReb]

Simple: The black half of his brain won't caucus with the white half.

[Wineslob]

Ah yes, the infamous spin machine........

[DumbAss Tanker]

DLnyc  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Interesting
 Another angle is his very persistent focus (obsession?) with bringing opposing groups together.

Right.    That'd actually work a lot better for him if his version of 'Bringing together' didn't involve ordering the other side to suck it up, shut their pie-holes, and get in line behind him.

[jukin]

You have to admit that it is a pleasant alternative to all the rest of that disagree with his fascist policies being called RACISTS.

[Erasmus]

I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy.  I think the simpler, and therefore more correct explanation, is that he's @!#%ing incompetant and is pushing a failed ideology.

[Doubleplusungood]

Right.    That'd actually work a lot better for him if his version of 'Bringing together' didn't involve ordering the other side to suck it up, shut their pie-holes, and get in line behind him.

Or all of Obama's bro's and ho's telling us to "go to hell", "take us sons of bitches out", and calling us "terrorists". Nothing makes me want to get along and roast s'mores at a hippy campfire more than dialogue like that.

[Karin]

Or all of Obama's bro's and ho's telling us to "go to hell", "take us sons of bitches out", and calling us "terrorists". Nothing makes me want to get along and roast s'mores at a hippy campfire more than dialogue like that.

Exactly, plus the endless litany of "Racist!"  What did they expect to happen?   It's made me hate them, and anybody with a D attached to their name. 

"Bringing both sides together", what utter bullshit.  This country hasn't been so divided since the Civil War. 

[Doubleplusungood]

Exactly, plus the endless litany of "Racist!"  What did they expect to happen?   It's made me hate them, and anybody with a D attached to their name. 

"Bringing both sides together", what utter bullshit.  This country hasn't been so divided since the Civil War. 

I have hated the primitives since I was in college in the 1990s. I wasn't even in to politics at all in those days. The Matt Stone/Trey Parker category of the most annoying libtards known as "know-it-all college hippy liberal" turned me into a lifelong conservative. I detest them.

[BEG]

Well there goes their no father is needed lie.

[Erasmus]

Well there goes their no father is needed lie.

The more you see these dimwits attempt to reason, the more you learn that they're entire belief system is hopelessly self-contradictory.

[Doubleplusungood]

The more you see these dimwits attempt to reason, the more you learn that they're entire belief system is hopelessly self-contradictory.

Liberal "logic" always terminates in hypocrisy.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Well there goes their no father is needed lie.

Well played, madame.

*polite golf clap*

[miskie]

Obama is the COiC - ( Community Organizer-in-Chief)

And as such, everything he does is based on compromise, which makes him a weak and ineffectual leader. (for which I'm thankful)- Frankly, he shouldn't have survived the primaries, but being labeled as a racist is more effective than being labeled as a sexist when used as a tool of persuasion.

If Hillary were President, we would be 'well and truly screwn' [/DUmpspeak], as she and those big brass testicles that bounce off of her cankles as she walks would have put all of Obama's policies through before they lost The House in 2010. Instead, we got Mr. Nice guy who thankfully got lost in the weeds, and continues to be that way.

You Dems wanted FDR, You got Carter... Boo-freakin'-hoo.

[FreeBorn]

"Happy Days Are Here Again" should be the theme song for the Soetoro '12 campaign.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dd-Un22DzA[/youtube]

[Duke Nukum]

Or maybe it's something else ...
http://minx.cc/?post=321360

To paraphrase The Doctor: Don't you think he's looking tired?

[LC EFA]

Well there goes their no father is needed lie.

In all fairness - I was raised in a single parent family and to this day don't know who or where my father is.

I turned out okay.

[thundley4]

In all fairness - I was raised in a single parent family and to this day don't know who or where my father is.

I turned out okay.

There are exceptions to every rule.

[BEG]

There are exceptions to every rule.

Exactly! 

LC EFA, I know who my father is and I would rather not know. Dont get me wrong, he is a great guy...to everyone elses kids.  He was never there and if one of my kids were to pass him on the street I highly doubt he would know who they are. I use to be very angry about the whole bum deal I got. Now I realize I can't change him and accept him for who he is (and understand to some degree why he is the way he is).  He is a very nice man, would give me every last dime if I needed it but has never given me what I needed, for him to be a real dad.

I would be a very different person today if I hadn't met my husband at the age I did (a week before I turned 15).  I married him when I was 20 and we will have our 25th anniversary this January.  I haven't had the best example for how a man should treat their wife or their kids. I thank God that I found my husband everyday.

[Homecreek]

That spin is so fast, they have engaged the Trans-Warp Drive and achieved Warp 6!

[diesel driver]

That spin is so fast, they have engaged the Trans-Warp Drive and achieved Warp 6!

Hold on to your jockey shorts, friend.

They haven't turned the "spin machine" on yet!