Author Topic: A friendly tip for job seekers: (Read 3174 times)

Texacon · « **on:** September 08, 2011, 02:41:37 PM »

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1900618

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sixmile (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 02:45 PM
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A friendly tip for job seekers:

Leave the baggage at home.

Our company is hiring for administrative and entry-level sales positions in the aviation business.

Most potential candidates are eager to work, and are able to follow the simple instructions for the interview process. Though some are just a hot mess. Needless to say these candidates are immediately disqualified.

Just a helpful tip if you're out interviewing - strangers do not want to hear about your personal troubles during a job interview.

I love this thread SO much!

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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 02:49 PM
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1. Entry level positions. Able to follow simple instructions.

Undoubtedly, it sounds like these are extremely low paying jobs.

I'm sure "management" appreciates high quality applicants being forced to grovel. Those applicants really need to learn their place.

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leftyohiolib (147 posts) Thu Sep-08-11 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #1

2. yea they pay high-school wages and then bitch when

Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 02:53 PM by leftyohiolib

they dont get highly educated well-trained adults to apply

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leftyohiolib (147 posts) Thu Sep-08-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #3

5. personal baggage like "how am i supposed to feed my family on 7 dollars an hour"

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Quantess (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #5

17. LMAO! Yeah, uh....no.

Are you kidding? Pre-emptive complaining about the job is a bad idea.
Don't even bother applying if the wage isn't enough, LOL.

Can you imagine being the HR person doing the interview... who has no control over the starting wages (well maybe a leeway of a dollar per hour) and someone asking you that? If I were the interviewer, I'd wrap it up in 30 seconds and get that person out the door. As if the HR person doesn't hear enough bitching from bosses.

Dirty Freeper. Bringing logic to the fight.

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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:00 PM
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7. What a crappy attitude. Who'd want to work with such a company

anyway? Paying 'entry level' pittances and expecting joyous groveling from the prospective exploitees. I mean employees. Tripe of the right wing variety.

Now for the punch line ...

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sixmile (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #7

8. The company is owned and run by liberal Dems

Edited on Thu Sep-08-11 03:03 PM by sixmile

So now what?

We're hiring the unemployed. Is that a bad thing on DU?

Are your views representative of the party? If so, I'm gone.

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TBF (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #8

16. The bad thing is

that you are treating people like crap in your responses on this thread. If you are like that in real life I can imagine just how much fun it is to work with/for you...

I could care less how you categorize the owners of your company - it is owners and their entitlement that we are damned sick of.

I'll bet you're a joy to work with.

This thread could get fun, then again it might die on the vine.

KC

Rugnuts · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:45:23 PM »

so is sixmile gone yet?

BEG · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:54:48 PM »

These people are miserable. No wonder they are all unemployed.

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2011, 02:59:46 PM »

DUmmie said, "I could care less how you categorize the owners of your company - it is owners and their entitlement that we are damned sick of"

It was me that worked 2 and 3 jobs, night and day, 7 days a week to save enough to start my company. Or I should say, saved enough plus put everything I owned on the line to get the money to start my business. You didn't risk a damn thing, I DID. So damn right I feel entitled to any enrichment from such a gamble.

BTW DUmmie, when you're costing me more than you're earning me, I don't need you any more.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:11:08 PM »

The normal DUmmie reaction to facts - Fear and loathing, hatred for the messenger.

Erasmus · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:17:22 PM »

They're waiting for Obama to announce in his speech that jobs are soooooo 1980's. Who needs jobs when you have eternal unemployment insurance paid for by the shrinking minority of Americans that do work?

Rebel · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:50:12 PM »

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TBF (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:18 PM
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16. The bad thing is

that you are treating people like crap in your responses on this thread. If you are like that in real life I can imagine just how much fun it is to work with/for you...

I could care less how you categorize the owners of your company - it is owners and their entitlement that we are damned sick of.

They're entitlement? The jobs belong to the company owners, fool. It's the DUmbass that comes in thinking he/she can bitch about God knows what and still get the job that is the one that feels like he/she is entitled. A job interview is supposed to be a professional setting. You come in to me and start babbling about your ****ed up life, in this setting, I'm going to immediately think you're either A) on something, or B) mentally disturbed. Either way, you won't be hearing back from me. I'M doing the interviewing, not you. Don't like it? Hit the road, DUmbass.

Karin · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:05:24 PM »

OH brother.

TBF up there is a hard core communist. Bluenorthwest has gone so far to suggest that homosexuality is so good, so fantastic, that heterosexuality is downright suspect. He's a real piece of work.

NHSparky · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:27:03 PM »

Dear DUmmies--might I suggest you join the military if you don't like it? I'm sure they could find something worthwhile for you to do...

Nevermind, none of you could pass the ASVAB, let alone the drug test.

USA4ME · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »

OK, so the primitives believe themselves to be "high quality applicants" and want a high paying job (living wage plus) where they can grovel about all their baggage, they don't have to follow simple instructions, and the employer begs them to be their employee.

Uhh... primitives, you can't even tie your shoes without a 50,000 page gov't manual explaining to you how.

But, good luck and all that.

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Freeper · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:07:39 PM »

The fact that leaving your baggage at home must be mentioned to the DUmmies says a hell of a lot of just how out of it they are.

delilahmused · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:39:58 PM »

Sheesh, all they have to do is NOT complain during the 15 minutes of the interview. How hard is that? With so many people out of work, I'm sure there are plenty who won't complain. Guess none of them ever thought it would be easier to feed their kids with a job. How about being enthusiastic, doing a great job and getting promoted to a better paying position. Hating the employer before you get the job seems a bad job strategy to me.

Cindie

JohnnyReb · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:50:16 PM »

Quote from: delilahmused on September 08, 2011, 05:39:58 PM

Sheesh, all they have to do is NOT complain during the 15 minutes of the interview. How hard is that? With so many people out of work, I'm sure there are plenty who won't complain. Guess none of them ever thought it would be easier to feed their kids with a job. How about being enthusiastic, doing a great job and getting promoted to a better paying position. Hating the employer before you get the job seems a bad job strategy to me.

Cindie

Hey, all the experience DUmmies have with interviews in the past has been comprised of 15 or more minutes of whining, crying, beggiing, bitching and complaining to get more government freebies. Old habits are hard to break.

LC EFA · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:59:45 PM »

Quote from: NHSparky on September 08, 2011, 04:27:03 PM

Dear DUmmies--might I suggest you join the military if you don't like it? I'm sure they could find something worthwhile for you to do...

Nevermind, none of you could pass the ASVAB, let alone the drug test.

As if whiny little pricks like that would be welcome.

I'd not subject the armed services to that sort of thing.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2011, 07:03:43 PM »

Quote from: JohnnyReb on September 08, 2011, 05:50:16 PM

Hey, all the experience DUmmies have with interviews in the past has been comprised of 15 or more minutes of whining, crying, beggiing, bitching and complaining to get more government freebies. Old habits are hard to break.

Steel on target there. Likely the last 'interview' they had was with a social worker, where the DUmmie was trying to talk up how tragic it's stupid little situation was to get more gubmint cheese/money.

Duke Nukum · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2011, 07:58:41 PM »

I don't know about this. sixmile has over 1000 posts, he or she knew who the DUmmies were when she posted it.

jukin · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:33:09 PM »

It occurs to me that this is a direct result of the "Keep that Self esteem Up" that started in the early 90s in our elementary schools.

You suck, you don't try hard to not suck. You do not get a well paid job.

Evil_Conservative · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:45:35 PM »

If I was hosting the interview, I'd tell the DUmmies I wasn't Dr. Phil and didn't care about their problems.

ExGeeEye · « **Reply #18 on:** September 09, 2011, 01:22:11 AM »

Quote from: Evil_Conservative on September 08, 2011, 10:45:35 PM

If I was hosting the interview, I'd tell the DUmmies I wasn't Dr. Phil and didn't care about their problems.

I've never been a business owner, and never hired anyone, but I have been a supervisor. One thing have learned is that, unlike crops, problems feed on, thrive on, grow on neglect.

Let people air their grievances, and often that will be enough. Force them to bottle it up behind a false facade of eager cheerfulness, and you'll get health issues, stupidly negligent accidents, suicides and worse.

YMMV...

(Yes, this after the person was already hired.)

wasp69 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 09, 2011, 07:29:11 AM »

Quote from: Evil_Conservative on September 08, 2011, 10:45:35 PM

If I was hosting the interview, I'd tell the DUmmies I wasn't Dr. Phil and didn't care about their problems.

I've conducted many interviews with potential employees and candidates for special programs. Whiners and idiots get theirs wrapped up very quickly and quietly with a "Thanks for coming in, we will be interviewing candidates for the next few days, we should be making a decision early next week". Firing back at the emotionally stunted does nothing but feed whatever crybaby neurosis they are currently wearing on their sleeve and gives them more reason to whine and bitch (which is what they wanted to begin with).

No need to create drama when you can sweep it out the door.

DumbAss Tanker · « **Reply #20 on:** September 09, 2011, 08:50:48 AM »

Quote from: ExGeeEye on September 09, 2011, 01:22:11 AM

I've never been a business owner, and never hired anyone, but I have been a supervisor. One thing have learned is that, unlike crops, problems feed on, thrive on, grow on neglect.

Let people air their grievances, and often that will be enough. Force them to bottle it up behind a false facade of eager cheerfulness, and you'll get health issues, stupidly negligent accidents, suicides and worse.

YMMV...

(Yes, this after the person was already hired.)

There's a big difference between being smart enough to STFU about your personal problems long enough to get through the job interview, and the way your peers and supervisors will relate to you on a personal level over the months and years after you've been hired.

Texacon · « **Reply #21 on:** September 09, 2011, 09:14:36 AM »

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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 07:41 PM
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35. I got trashed for paying $13 per hour for my 2 employees. I was told

that I should close my business if I could not afford to pay them at least $17 per hour + benefits.

I talked to my employees about it and while they said they would love to make more, they would rather keep eating than lose their jobs so they would not be 'exploited' by me any longer.

Sometimes DU is a funny place.

Wrong. DU is ALWAYS a funny place! Why do you think we have this forum?

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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 08:35 PM
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36. There is a lot of animosity toward HR folks here.

I used to go to the Career Help group here, but got tired of the negativity when I was only trying to help. Apparently I am evil, and never knew it until DU told me so.

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sixmile (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 08:55 PM
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37. It's not just HR folks

It's seems to be animosity towards business in general.

Like it or not we live in a capitalist world. I'm sure the computers everyone's hiding behind weren't free.

-OP

Ya think?

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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 10:55 PM
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46. And in turn, like it or not,

If capitalism ever expects to survive, it kind of needs gainfully employed people. THAT'S the reality of a consumer-based service economy that no one on the hiRING side of the desk seems to understand or care about.

Uh HugeDUmbass I think you are the one not understanding. Do you understand what is required to be "gainfully employed?" That means the people doing the hiring are trying to find someone who actually wants to do the job and will actually DO said job to the best of their ability. (*cough* don't hire Taverner *cough*)

And they wonder why they can't find jobs.

KC

Maxiest · « **Reply #22 on:** September 09, 2011, 09:35:04 AM »

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I could care less how you categorize the owners of your company - it is owners and their entitlement that we are damned sick of.

So it's the people who actually can afford to pay you that you are sick of? The DUmmies make me so damn mad... This whole attitude of the workers owning and running the company is what the Unions used through the 70's, 80's, and 90's that destroyed companies... big companies like GM. YOUR A ****ING EMPLOYEE... YOU DO WHAT I SAY!!! If you don't like it go some where else, its called the free market dip shits... ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NHSparky · « **Reply #23 on:** September 09, 2011, 09:46:26 AM »

Seriously, maxi, how do you REALLY feel?

Don't hold back now.

Wineslob · « **Reply #24 on:** September 09, 2011, 09:55:22 AM »

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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-08-11 03:00 PM
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7. What a crappy attitude. Who'd want to work with such a company

anyway? Paying 'entry level' pittances and expecting joyous groveling from the prospective exploitees. I mean employees. Tripe of the right wing variety.

The DUmmy is right! Minimum wage needs to be $25 hr to start with a 30 hour work week with guaranteed 40 hours pay!

Ya, that'll work.................................

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