Challenging Misconceptions, Illuminating Diversity

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Islamic Science Rediscovered
California Premiere
Limited Engagement. Opens Saturday September 3.

Challenging Misconceptions, Illuminating Diversity

Long overlooked or often misattributed, the remarkable contributions of Muslim scholars in science and technology have quietly floundered as no more than common footnotes of world history.

Visitors educated in the Western world will be surprised to learn of discoveries and inventions in the Muslim World which predate by years, sometimes centuries, discoveries thought to be developed in the West.

Designed to unearth the scientific know-how of an Islamic Golden Age that is all too strange and unfamiliar to Western culture, Islamic Science Rediscovered demystifies this grand civilization and introduces visitors to the vast influence of its discoveries and inventions on contemporary society.

Did the Wright brothers soar in the sky first? Was Leonardo da Vinci the first to describe "machines of the future"?

They ARE experts in slashing throats and decapitations.

Garbage in = Garbage out

[vesta111]

They ARE experts in slashing throats and decapitations.

Garbage in = Garbage out

I take it that you have no interest in past history of cultures that you despise.

For me, the glorious past of this one totally screwed up faith and it's down fall into the pits of Hell kind of fascinates me.

Gone are the great builders and the planners of huge at one time magnificent city's, the art work in stone and precious  gold and copper.  Gone are the scientists of those long ago days as are the writers and poets.

When in time did the self imposed debasement begin ------less then 150 years ago ----over 500 years ago??? 

Was it the constant wars that sapped their strength and the different sects of Islam that placed them on the path they followed to today's lust to kill outsiders???

One must know their enemy from when time began for them.   What was good and bad about their history, why and how did the enemy come about to their present day mind set.

The more one knows about about an enemy the easier it is to out wit them, to understand their mind set and block their moves against us.    We still argue about why Rome fell, I would like to know how the Empire of the middle east has dissolved into chaos and rubble.

















 

[JohnnyReb]

B.S....they stole it... http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

[vesta111]

B.S....they stole it... http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

I checked out the sub link to your link on a brief history on the Assyrians and  was astounded with the information, so much to concider and grasp as for my generations of public schools had few teachers equiped to teach this history.

Is this even taught now to Collage kids , is this information only taught in Masters degree programs to a select few ????    I cannot thank you enough for that link.

I am a difficult woman you see as I all ways want to know why about life.  I am told that this is good and this is bad, yet depending on who tells me, I need to know WHY.   Very frustrating you see, to live with all these ideas coming from people that state their stand but refuse to discuss why they hold these ideas.

Answers from childhood to this time has always been --because this is a fact, everyone with a lick of sense has known this for years, better not ask questions it just upsets some people, why do you ask questions of people that you know will start an argument, etc.

Had I been born a male, I am sure things would have been different.   As a female, my questions to people have been discounted, never was I given a list of books to read or ever told, " Now that is a darn good question, let me think about this and get back to you".

However you my dear Johnny are one of the few that have given me a desire to learn more, opened a closed door of history to me. You are one of the few that have taken the time to educate me and I will never forget this.     

[zeitgeist]

B.S....they stole it... http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

Great link.

Recommended rainy day reading.

[RightCoast]

Good read, good smackdown - assuming she read it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The salad days of Islamic learning were before what we would really call science, i.e. the formulation and use of the scientific method.  It is certainly true that Islamic learning centers kept the accumulated body of Classical scientific knowledge (...as we would call it now; at the time it would have been called 'Natural philosophy') alive through the Dark Ages of Christendom.  Many of the Greek and Roman learned works still in existence are here only because they were translated into Arabic and survived in Eastern libraries until retranslated into Western languages during the Renaissance.  Our modern works 'Algebra' in mathematic, 'Alcohol' for fermentation distillate, and 'Alchemy' from which modern chemistry arose are all of Arabic origin.

But, circa 400 years ago, the beginning development of true experimental science and the formulation of the scientific method which flowed from it led to a crisis in both moral authority and temporal power between secular powers of unforgiving rational analysis, and ecclesiastical powers relying on faith and authority.  In the West, the secular won primacy and brought in a technological golden age which is still blooming.  In the East it brought in a retreat into the shelter of the Koran and dogma, beginning a decline into dependency, irrelevance, and poverty that continues to this day.

[Erasmus]

Revisionist history.

For example, the toothbrush, often attributed to mooslims, was actually invented by a Christian living in mooslim occupied land.  Some of the great libraries were saved at the behest of Jews and Christians when mooslims came to destroy them.

Yes, often misattributed, mooslims get far more credit than they deserve.

[FreeBorn]

B.S....they stole it... http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

Nice find, Johnny. One of the most under reported aspects of the "Arab spring" as of late is the genocide being carried out against non Muslims throughout the middle east wherever these uprisings occur.
The LSM like to apply the spin (and the lie) and this is racial or "ethnic cleansing". It is not. It is the same old "kill the infidel" bullshit they have been perpetrating since Islam first appeared like a cancer among us.
There has been a lot of this going on in Libya, the anti Khadaffy rebels murdering hundreds of sub Saharan African migrant workers. The LSM (when they cover it at all) would have you believe they are killed because they are black but the truth is they are slaughtered because they are Christian. We can't have a little thing like the truth muddling things up when we are championing the "freedom fighters" now, can we?

Behold the great lions of Islam~

http://www.apacheclips.com/media/35538/Syrian_Soldier_dope_themself_up/

[vesta111]

Nice find, Johnny. One of the most under reported aspects of the "Arab spring" as of late is the genocide being carried out against non Muslims throughout the middle east wherever these uprisings occur.
The LSM like to apply the spin (and the lie) and this is racial or "ethnic cleansing". It is not. It is the same old "kill the infidel" bullshit they have been perpetrating since Islam first appeared like a cancer among us.
There has been a lot of this going on in Libya, the anti Khadaffy rebels murdering hundreds of sub Saharan African migrant workers. The LSM (when they cover it at all) would have you believe they are killed because they are black but the truth is they are slaughtered because they are Christian. We can't have a little thing like the truth muddling things up when we are championing the "freedom fighters" now, can we?

Behold the great lions of Islam~

http://www.apacheclips.com/media/35538/Syrian_Soldier_dope_themself_up/

Dark to middle ages, were there not a Sect of Muslims that fed its warriors on Hashish to get them rilled up???[20]

[Rebel]

Dark to middle ages, were there not a Sect of Muslims that fed its warriors on Hashish to get them rilled up???[20]

The Assassins.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins

[Ptarmigan]

Lot of the sciences came from Persians who were conquered. The Persians had an advanced civilization on par with Greeks and Romans.