primitive wants to wash a white hat

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=442x329

Man, I'm desperate to find good material on Skins's island today.

raccoon  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-29-11 10:38 AM
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I have a white washable hat (somewhat like Gilligan's) that has turned yellow with age.

How to whiten it again?

TygrBright  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 01:52 PM
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1. First, pre-soak in HOT water plus a little bleach.

Second, wash in HOT water with bleach.

Third, rinse in HOT water with vinegar added.

Fourth, repeat, but this time use BAKING SODA in the rinse.

Then leave it out in the sun for a couple of days.

Might help.

supernova  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-31-11 10:50 PM
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2. Soak it in Biz

Biz is an enzymatic bleach.

Put it in a sink/bucket/pail with some water and I don't know, an ounce or so of Biz and let it soak for a few days. It will turn white again but it will take a while.

[Skul]

Dear, coon.
Throw it away, buy a new hat.

Why am I not surprised he has a Gilligan look-alike hat?

[BattleHymn]

I would suggest drenching it in gasoline, putting it on their head, and lighting it. 

[NHSparky]

He means a dixie cup hat like they give to enlisted sailors.

Frankly, I had maybe two after I got to the fleet for wear with my dress uniforms or CNT's.  For dungarees or on the boat, went with the command ballcap, which was about 90 percent of the time.

[franksolich]

I would suggest drenching it in gasoline, putting it on their head, and lighting it. 

You know, I have one of those floppy hats, if I'm thinking of the same thing.

The brimmed floppy hat of the sort that fishermen wear, sticking spare fish-hooks and stuff through it.

It's tan, and machine-washable.

[NHSparky]

You know, I have one of those floppy hats, if I'm thinking of the same thing.

The brimmed floppy hat of the sort that fishermen wear, sticking spare fish-hooks and stuff through it.

It's tan, and machine-washable.

I'm thinking that the DUmmie is referring to one of these, coach:



Bleach is typically what makes the hat turn yellow in the first place.  Letting it sit overnight in warm water and something like OxyClean then washing as usual (adding some white vinegar during rinse) then letting line dry will get rid of as much as possible.  If it's still yellow then it's time for a new damned hat.

[BattleHymn]

You know, I have one of those floppy hats, if I'm thinking of the same thing.

The brimmed floppy hat of the sort that fishermen wear, sticking spare fish-hooks and stuff through it.

It's tan, and machine-washable.

The raccoon primitive's hat is probably so saturated with grease that you could use it to oil a a grill before barbecuing.  

I'm still trying to figure out why, if they don't wash themselves, that washing a hat is so important?    

[zeitgeist]

He means a dixie cup hat like they give to enlisted sailors.

Frankly, I had maybe two after I got to the fleet for wear with my dress uniforms or CNT's.  For dungarees or on the boat, went with the command ballcap, which was about 90 percent of the time.

I always liked :

http://www.mrsstewart.com/


Works like a charm.

[BattleHymn]

Works like a charm.

Not always on cats, though. 

[tanstaafl]

Not always on cats, though. 

I think you're supposed to shave the cat first.

[GOBUCKS]

I was thinking of the hat the fat kid named Porky always wore on "Lassie".

And what do you think they'd say about having a chubby character named
"Porky" in today's pussified society?

[Skul]

The raccoon primitive's hat is probably so saturated with grease that you could use it to oil a a grill before barbecuing.  

I'm still trying to figure out why, if they don't wash themselves, that washing a hat is so important?    

Y'all go right ahead. I'll pass on that.

[ChuckJ]

The raccoon primitive's hat is probably so saturated with grease that you could use it to oil a a grill before barbecuing.  

I'm still trying to figure out why, if they don't wash themselves, that washing a hat is so important?    

The teeth are already yellow? With the hat also yellow the high/drunk boyfriend has a hard time knowing where to stick the wiener?

Just throwing ideas out there.

[Rufus2010]

LOL at first I thought the DUmmie was talking about his Klan hat...

[franksolich]

LOL at first I thought the DUmmie was talking about his Klan hat...

Well, one can't be too sure that's not the case, sir.

The primitive's from North Carolina and a Democrat.

The only thing that doesn't quite fit is that the primitive, who's no spring or summer chicken, is a femme, and I don't know much about female involvement with the Democrat Ku Klux Klan.

[zeitgeist]

Well, one can't be too sure that's not the case, sir.

The primitive's from North Carolina and a Democrat.

The only thing that doesn't quite fit is that the primitive, who's no spring or summer chicken, is a femme, and I don't know much about female involvement with the Democrat Ku Klux Klan.

Some light reading for a chilly winter eve?

Ignorant. Brutal. Male. One of these stereotypes of the Ku Klux Klan offers a misleading picture. In Women of the Klan, sociologist Kathleen M. Blee dismantles the popular notion that politically involved women are always inspired by pacifism, equality, and justice. In her new preface, Blee reflects on how recent scholarship on gender and right-wing extremism suggests new ways to understand women's place in the 1920s Klan's crusade for white and Christian supremacy.

http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520257870

Darn those right wing dimocratix wyomen who kept Grand Kliegel Sheets Byrd's robes lilly white!

and check this one:

Women of the Ku Klux Klan: Constitution and Bylaws; Outline of Principles and Teachings; recruitment card.

This ephemera c. 1927 from the Women of the Ku Klux Klan was found in Coxsackie, New York, and was part of a museum accession that also included Klan robes and hoods. These artifacts are representative of widespread KKK activity in New York State in the 1920s. An estimated 80,000 New Yorkers belonged to the Klan. In fact, New York had the seventh highest membership in the nation. The Albany-Schenectady-Troy area had an estimated 11,000 members, but Klan rallies, parades, and burning crosses were reported statewide, from the state headquarters in Binghamton to Long Island, from Buffalo to the Catskills. As opposed to the anti-black animus in the South, the primary targets of the Klan in New York were Roman Catholics, Jews, immigrants generally, and "Bolsheviks" (the common 1920s name for communists).

Nationwide, as many as half a million women were members of Women of the Ku Klux Klan (WKKK). The Tri-K for Girls was the female youth group. It may seem surprising that women were involved in the Klan, but many elements of the Klan's platform were intended to appeal to women. Although Klanswomen did not enjoy equality with Klansmen, Klan rhetoric glorified the purity of womanhood and the sanctity of the home. Enforcing Prohibition was a cornerstone of the KKK's "reform" agenda. In this the Klan shared a position held by many progressive reformers, including many suffragists and feminists, who condemned the use of alcohol as detrimental to society. (For a similar view, see the Women's Christian Temperance Union quilt also on this web site.) The Klan opposed "vice" in all forms, including prostitution and gambling. The Klan in the 1920s was active in electoral politics to achieve some of its objectives, and therefore it supported women's right to vote--that is, it supported Klan women voting for Klan-endorsed candidates. Klanswomen also participated in boycotts of businesses owned by Jews and others who were not considered "100% American" (anyone not native-born, white, and Protestant).

Christine Kleinegger, Senior Historian

wait, what, New York? 

[franksolich]

Some light reading for a chilly winter eve?

Darn those right wing dimocratix wyomen who kept Grand Kliegel Sheets Byrd's robes lilly white!

and check this one:

wait, what, New York? 

Wow.

Great find.

Now we know how some of the primitive women spend their time.

[zeitgeist]

Wow.

Great find.

Now we know how some of the primitive women spend their time.

As an aside, I worked with a guy years ago who told a great story of finding his grandparents clan regalia in a carriage shed attic when cleaning out the old homestead.  He was shocked.  Northern New England was not very big on Jews, Catholics, Blacks, Native Americans, Irish, and on and on.  When you have five or six generations who lived on the same piece of ground they seem to get that way.  Not big on outsiders regardless of race, color or creed.

Ask Vesta about life in a small New England town sometime ( did I really say that?) and be prepared to hear about real bigotry.

[franksolich]

Ask Vesta about life in a small New England town sometime (did I really say that?) and be prepared to hear about real bigotry.

I'll let NHSparky ask her, sir.

I don't want to draw vesta's attention to myself.

[vesta111]

I'll let NHSparky ask her, sir.

I don't want to draw vesta's attention to myself.

What on earth is the matter with you Frank, I am not stalking you, in no way do I wish to complicate your life, you are an interesting Man today and lived an interesting life as a young man.

If you wish I can just ignore your posts and loose the little pleasure I have in pulling your tail, bending your mind and watching your reactions.  You Frank have no idea really , nor do others here when I am being facetious, satirical or serious.  It is my wish to keep things this way.

Is this your way of telling me goodby?  Are you dumping me for someone who is normal and every day?

[franksolich]

What on earth is the matter with you Frank, I am not stalking you, in no way do I wish to complicate your life, you are an interesting Man today and lived an interesting life as a young man.

If you wish I can just ignore your posts and loose the little pleasure I have in pulling your tail, bending your mind and watching your reactions.  You Frank have no idea really , nor do others here when I am being facetious, satirical or serious.  It is my wish to keep things this way.

Is this your way of telling me goodby?  Are you dumping me for someone who is normal and every day?

No, not at all, vesta, dear, madam.

There'd be a great vacancy in this life if you were to evaporate.

But the deal is, your fellow New Englander NHSparky knows better how to discuss things, than I do.  So best I just sit and watch, while the two of you describe and discuss bigotry in the blue states of the northeast.

[diesel driver]

How can a DUmmie wash a white hat?

Soak it in coffee and turn it into a brown hat.  

[vesta111]

No, not at all, vesta, dear, madam.

There'd be a great vacancy in this life if you were to evaporate.

But the deal is, your fellow New Englander NHSparky knows better how to discuss things, than I do.  So best I just sit and watch, while the two of you describe and discuss bigotry in the blue states of the northeast.

One can find bigotry anywhere in the world My dear Frank, this is a survival method of Europe and all points east  or west.

One could back then fear the strange outsiders that brought in disease unknown to an area.   This problem I believe is  what caused the common man and woman to to develop the first bigotry.

This morphed into the Americas, the fear of the new comers that were strange in face and lifestyle.  So the new comers were stereotyped as  Chinese laundereds, the Irish as drunks, the Italians as mob connected and Lord help the French as ignorant baboons-----type cast as idiots.  The English as people that could do as they wished, they were the educated and the most corrupt.

We still to this day place the French as cowards and all to ready to give up in a time of war.     We forget the French underground that fought and died for their country.

Few remember Poland that also gave up within a few weeks, or the vast numbers of country's that allowed the Machine to roll over them in a matter of weeks.---Do we criticise the people that were driven into the ground in other country's by the Machine???

Interesting thing history, why it still haunts us so.

[zeitgeist]

One can find bigotry anywhere in the world My dear Frank, this is a survival method of Europe and all points east  or west.

One could back then fear the strange outsiders that brought in disease unknown to an area.   This problem I believe is  what caused the common man and woman to to develop the first bigotry.

This morphed into the Americas, the fear of the new comers that were strange in face and lifestyle.  So the new comers were stereotyped as  Chinese laundereds, the Irish as drunks, the Italians as mob connected and Lord help the French as ignorant baboons-----type cast as idiots.  The English as people that could do as they wished, they were the educated and the most corrupt.

We still to this day place the French as cowards and all to ready to give up in a time of war.     We forget the French underground that fought and died for their country.

Few remember Poland that also gave up within a few weeks, or the vast numbers of country's that allowed the Machine to roll over them in a matter of weeks.---Do we criticise the people that were driven into the ground in other country's by the Machine???

Interesting thing history, why it still haunts us so.

Vesta, if half as many French that claimed to have fought in the underground had actually fought ... oh never mind.  History can't compete with Hogan's Hero's.

What I thought you might do was give a bit of your unique perspective of growing up in a small New England town largely dominated by White Anglo Saxton Protestants.  Growing up living on the family homestead, when the Rainbow Ball meant girls (not guys) in gowns.  How many black kids were there where when you went to school, how many Jews?  I bet not a lot.  We had two black kids enroll when I was in the fourth grade, they didn't last a week.  And French Catholic SY supervisors were few and far between they just didn't belong to the right orginizations.  

You know that stuff.  Shirley you must remember what it was like when the sidewalk was rolled up at 5PM and the church bell woke you Sunday morning.

[zeitgeist]

Vesta, I was thinking something along the line of this vignette here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1874845


SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Sun Sep-04-11 01:14 PM
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At year's end , the Dow Jones average came in at 1004.65
 (this is something I wrote in Feb '07.. long before the crash, but many of us here were already worried..before the banksters seemed to be)


The year was 1977. I was 28, my husband, 34.

We were a young family of 4.( sons born in '73 & '77,,,the last would follow in Dec of 78)

What was life like then?

We bought our first house with $2500 down, for $39,900.00 in a new subdivision in a bedroom community of Kansas City, The house was a tri-level split with a basement, and came with the "designer upgrades". It was a DREAM-House for us. ( I have since zillow-ed it, and it had a whopping 1100 sq.ft.)

There was a 12x12 redwood deck with a built in gas grill ( no propane bottles or briquettes). The common yard where all the cul-de-saqs backed up, was a greenbelt to behold, and the neighborhood kids were in heaven. All the Moms could step out the kitchen door and see their kids playing.

We did worry a bit about how on earth we would be able to afford the $359.00 a month PITI.

We had two cars, one of which was a new Chevy Station Wagon .( The Chevy had a car payment of $118.00 a month, for 36 months)

My husband was the sole family wage earner and his gross pay that year was $19,800.00. We had FOUR credit cards.. Standard Oil gas card, JC Penney, Sears and a newfangled card called "BankAmericard" (it had a $500 limit)

We were not wealthy, but we also never had any late payments, we ate well, and we never worried about taking kids to a doctor or dentist.

There were NO malls, NO K-Marts, No Super-Duper-Warehouse markets. We bought shoes at a SHOE STORE, we bought tires at a TIRE STORE, the boy's clothes came from Sears or Penneys, or when we were feeling really flush, a nice downtown department store in downtown KC.

We took vacations, we had a (small) savings account , we ate out at nice restaurants, and we lacked for little that was important.

Life was simple then, and even though we were not rich, we felt that we were doing okay.

My husband was not in a union, but lots of our neighbors were union members, and worked in Kansas City.

Ours was a neighborhood of Y.U.M.B.ies, and their new families.

It was a whirlwind of kid-watching all week and barbecues & neighborhood "card-parties" all weekend. Dads mowed lawns, shoveled snow...Moms took care of the kids and did their own thing during the week.

No one we knew had ever "lost a job", or been unemployed for any length of time, or even worried about it.

The neighborhood was varied too. Across the street, Rob was a lawyer....next door, Ted was an employee of IRS...down the block was Sanj, who worked for the KC Royals... Dave worked for Western Auto...Johnny worked at Sears.

I don't know when things started to change for the worse... when people started to be afraid, but things were pretty good in 1977 for at least one family.

The "measure of things" was on how your family was doing...People did not tune in twenty times a day to see "how the DOW" was doing. There were no "money channels"..no "market-gurus" screaming at us all day, warning us of a fleeting opportunity to BUY BUY BUY... We did not have a president telling us to "shop shop shop" til we dropped.

We did not worry about being blown up by terra-ists...nor did we worry about being old, broke and sick. We did not even worry about our own parent's health or wealth back then.

My husband's widowed mother was 74, and did quite nicely on Social Security, some small pension his dad left her, and babysitting.


1977 seems like a long time ago, but it really isn't. It's only one generation & change.
gen·er·a·tionNoun/ˌjenəˈrāSHən/
1. All of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively: "one of his generation's finest songwriters".
2. The average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children grow up and have children of their own.


The DOW info came from the link below, and looking at those numbers blows my mind. I cannot figure out exactly what correlation there is, but there HAS to be one. In my simple mind, I keep thinking that the money in the (new) DOW came from somewhere, and I have a sneaking suspicion that it came from US...the middle class.

There has to be a relationship to it. When I see those numbers, I see greed from above.

I know that CEOs made a lot less than they make today.
People will say.. "Well, we've ALL got 401-ks today.. everybody's invested in the market" ..but I still don't think any 401-k (for the average person) will ever out-perform a guaranteed benefit pension..with guaranteed medical benefits..over the long term.

Companies that were around then don't even exist now..(maybe the plans for their extinction were in the works even back then).

I don't know when it all started to slide, but life was still good in 1977.(for us, at least )


Here's an interesting time-capsule look at what was worrying the "money guys" back then.

The Peevish Summer of 1977

Stats came from here
 

Something like this Vesta, just no talk of harvest gold and alvacado appliances.


btw Anyone who goes to the link in quote above will get to see some fierce dummy charts and graphs along with a little nah, nah, nah, nah, boo boo.