DUmmies get an early start on whining about Sept 11th

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Aug-29-11 06:42 AM
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Oh jeez, it's started
   
This is the year I've dreaded for nine years now, the tenth anniversary of 911. Yeah, we've had the occasional, sporadic mention of 911 in the media before now, but today, the orgy of remembering has begun in earnest. Yahoo has a link and memorial up on their homepage. Books are being mentioned, TV channels are gearing up special programming. Let the orgy of jingoistic, xenophobic, hyperpatriotism begin.

Does this mean that I think we shouldn't pay our respects? No. But what I'm seeing shape up is a media frenzy designed to whip the masses into a long, long two minute hate.

I suggest you too prepare for the madness. Keep some good books on hand, be prepared to turn off the radio and/or TV. Perhaps simply staying inside, at home, is the best idea.

What I find sad is to compare the reaction to 911 with the reaction to Pearl Harbor. With Pearl, we didn't hold these yearly wakes. In 1951 we didn't have an anniversary "celebration" the way we are now. It was duly noted, and we moved on.

Sadly, I think that 911 is going to be hammered home for generations. I see this going on for twenty, twenty five years minimum. Hopefully, by the time that the thirty year mark hits, 911 will have faded into memory. Because it is incidents like 911 that are unhealthy to dwell on. Let's hope that the next generation will simply tip its hat in passing and move on.

Because we don't need to wallow in this tragedy. It is far too reminiscent of how Nazi Germany wallowed in the burning of the Reichstag. It becomes less a day of remembrance, and more a day used for propaganda purposes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1836562

Since liberalism can only thrive, if people forget history, it's no wonder they want 9-11 to fade from the memory of everyone.

SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Aug-29-11 06:48 AM
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2. Yep.. the "day" of remembrance is parlayed into the MONTH of remembrance
   
Edited on Mon Aug-29-11 06:58 AM by SoCalDem
and all media will be vying for the mantle of "most reverential". There will be a LOT of "history" re-written in September.

Of course we have no place ever again questioning countries who go to war with each other over long-ago "issues" (think Kosovo v Serbia).

If one does not forgive, understand (or at least try to) and move on, they remain mired in a frenzied state of hyper-vigilance, poised for blind-revenge.

In other words they won't talk about MIHOP, so that is rewriting history.

[blitzkrieg_17]

They hit the talking points early. I hope they get stomped for such disrespect.

[JohnnyReb]

I thought about this early DUmmies. I put in a request for a U.S. Flag that will be flown over.....Arlington ....on 9/11, 20011. I don't want one that has been flown over Obama and crowd.

[USA4ME]

MadHound

What I find sad is to compare the reaction to 911 with the reaction to Pearl Harbor. With Pearl, we didn't hold these yearly wakes. In 1951 we didn't have an anniversary "celebration" the way we are now. It was duly noted, and we moved on

Unless this primitive is 75 years or older, they have no room to comment on how Americans remembered Pearl Harbor Day (PHD) in 1951.  I don't recall this primitive being that old.

And I'm not sure what the primitive is referencing when he says Americans didn't observe PHD "the way we are now" when it comes to 9/11.  The meaning of that could go any number of directions, no doubt all wrong directions when it comes to how the primitives view it.  No, we didn't have the mass media we do now, but that's a matter of life having improved in the USA.  But my Dad was in WW2 in the Pacific Fleet and he most definately remembered PHD.  I remember TV specials in both 1981 and 1991 recalling the event.

Let them stew.  They deserve every minute of misery life brings them, and we deserve every laugh they provide to us.

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[DumbAss Tanker]

Selfish America-hating morons.  I am a look-ahead, action-oriented kind of person and really don't watch retrospectives on such major events myself, but I recognize a lot of people feel the need for them emotionally, and don't begrudge them.

[Odin's Hand]

OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-29-11 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. Every time I hear the phrase
 "they hate us for our freedoms", I want to hurt someone.

Future co-conspirator?

[JohnnyReb]

OwnedByFerrets...German rats...(think dachshunds)...and a good DUmp name for a NAZI democrat.

[Airwolf]

OwnedByFerrets needs to be beat like a baby seal.

[GOBUCKS]

Huge differences. At Pearl Harbor, there weren't more than one or two newsreel cameras working during the attack - everything else we see is
a re-creation made to look like newsreel. Compare that with 9/11.

Many people were only vaguely aware of Pearl Harbor's existence. It certainly wasn't a national icon like the WTC.

The news media in 1941 was minuscule compared to now.

In the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, the government had control over the dissemination of news to an extent beyond our comprehension today.

Nevertheless, the public in 1941 reacted with every bit as much horror and determination for vengeance as we did in 2001.

[Odin's Hand]

And then "The Imposter" shows up to offer a signal for collaboration with OwnedbyFerrets:

Odin2005  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #19
28. Me too, that line is annoying as ****.

And the Troofers show up for their temper tantrum:

DCKit (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 06:48 AM
Response to Original message
1. An opportunity to assign blame where blame belongs, perhaps?
 9/11, brought to you by Saudi Arabia.

HughBeaumont  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 08:58 AM
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20. Yay! Let's all celebrate and remember across-the-board failure!!
 All this is a reminder of is how we shovel tons and tons and tons of tax dollars (tax dollars that DON'T go to infrastructure repair, education or health care, mind you) every single year into institutions like NORAD, FAA, the US Military, the CIA, the FBI, etc. for the purpose of protecting us and keeping America's soil safe. Defending the country, if you will.

But, if all documented evidence tells us anything, it's that all of these institutions, when emergency action and on-the-spot defense was crucially needed . . .. failed us MISERABLY.

Personally, I think this was all a big *******ed LIHOP/MIHOP set-up so the Failure Fuhrer and his Junta could get their blank check for their never-ending turkey-shoots of choice, but that's just me. Or not just me.
 

Lorien  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-29-11 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #13
46. It's not like any conspiracy theories have ever turned out to be TRUE, right??
 http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1001/856/14_Conspiracy_T...  

butterfly77  (1000+ posts)     Mon Aug-29-11 08:43 AM
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18. You are reading my mind..
 Edited on Mon Aug-29-11 08:47 AM by butterfly77
me and some friends had this conversation yesterday,you hit all of the main points we were discussing.

I check in on Fox every now and then to see which angle they are going to come up with on this and every subject.

They are already getting on my nerves. Now they are hyping up Bush/Cheney as though they are the nations heros' and how they should be honored for "protecting us" if they were protecting us why did the towers get hit???

Raster  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 08:59 AM
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22. 9/11 was queued up to be a featured item in the propoganda pipeline long before the jets ever hit...
 ...the towers. Consider all the known evidence. It certainly appears that 9/11 was a terrorist event -- and cheney*/bush* trump card -- just waiting to happen.

(Post continues with excerpt from a laughable source)

Raster  (1000+ posts)        Mon Aug-29-11 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #30
32. The PNAC was jumping with joy because they were able to pull it off, giving them:
 (1) the excuse to stop the country from examining the mechanics of SELECTION 2000. After all, we need to support the pResident, even if he wasn't legally and lawfully elected;
(2) the justification to ratchet up the war machine to new levels of war profiteering without suffering the legal consequences;
(3) the rationale to invade Iraq on the flimsiest of evidence, which we now know, was entirely manufactured;
(4) an eight-year get-out-of-jail-free card, allowing the cheney*/bush* mis-administration to literally rewrite existing laws to suit their nefarious needs with little to no Congressional oversight; and
(5) the reason to subvert international treaties and the rule of law to allow Amerika to become the "New Rome."  

Politicalboi  (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-29-11 02:17 PM
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60. I'm dreading it too
 Listening to the "official story" sickens me to death. I'd like to know how many doubters have spent anytime just looking for themselves. I mean we don't even have to go to the fact that buildings that fall 10 stories per second without resistance is important. All we have to do is look how our government acted on that day. Is that what we pay taxes for? Is one video of the Pentagon "attack" good enough? Is having 40 minutes to react (Pentagon) good enough? Apparently so for some. It just blows my mind that people accept all this bullshit. I could go on, but why. Some here call us stupid for questioning our governments story. And I would bet those people haven't really looked into 9/11. And Popular Mechanics used to be a reputable source, but they are a joke today.

[Evil_Conservative]

There's a special place in hell for these DUmmies.

[JohnnyReb]

Just two vulgar words and one of them is 4 letters, Jamie Gorelick.

1-2-3....so I can't count. I was educated in the public schools.

[claret1995]

 Though I come here every day and enjoy to the max "poking the dummies" with a big stick. I do not post often but this is one special occasion..for me

Please someone"educate" the dummies that if 9/11 had occured in 1941 instead of 2001,Truman would have NUKED all the mid east countries

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Though I come here every day and enjoy to the max "poking the dummies" with a big stick. I do not post often but this is one special occasion..for me

Please someone"educate" the dummies that if 9/11 had occured in 1941 instead of 2001,Truman would have NUKED all the mid east countries

Roosevelt

[FiddyBeowulf]

There are plenty of differences between 1941 and 2001 and what was happening ten years after each. IMO the biggest is by 1951 Japan was defeated and occupied and later full fledged democracy. In 2011, we are still fighting radical islam and because it is an ideology and not a country it will take longer.

[FiddyBeowulf]

Roosevelt

I thought that at first too but the bomb was not ready when he was President.

[claret1995]

Roosevelt

Sorry Gipper...................It was Truman

[thundley4]

The big difference between Pearl Harbor and 9-11?  There are several, but there are two most glaringly obvious.

1. Pearl Harbor was a military base and the WTC was nothing but civilians slaughtered by pigs of Islam.

2. Millions of Americans and others around the world witnessed much of the devastation of the WTC in real time on television. 

[JohnnyReb]

The big difference between Pearl Harbor and 9-11?  There are several, but there are two most glaringly obvious.

1. Pearl Harbor was a military base and the WTC was nothing but civilians slaughtered by pigs of Islam.

2. Millions of Americans and others around the world witnessed much of the devastation of the WTC in real time on television. 

"Make a wide slaughter in the land until the infidels feel themselves subdued."

[redwhit]

What I find sad is to compare the reaction to 911 with the reaction to Pearl Harbor. With Pearl, we didn't hold these yearly wakes. In 1951 we didn't have an anniversary "celebration" the way we are now. It was duly noted, and we moved on.

Bullshit.

Some headlines from the New York Times on 7 December 1951:

"HAWAII TO REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR TODAY"

8 December 1951:

"PEARL HARBOR DAY MARKED IN HAWAII: A REMINDER OF THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR"
"War Noises Again Mar Peace of Pearl Harbor"

2 December 1951:

"Ten Years Ago This Friday--: Here is an account of the tragic blow at Pearl Harbor and the correlated events in Washington. Ten Years Ago This Friday--"

That check took me all of 3 minutes.  Suck it dummies.

[Duke Nukum]

For the 10th anniversary, we could convert some Prius automobiles into rafts and load them up with DUmmies and send them floating toward Papa Castro.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

For people who supposedly hated jingoistic xenophobia they spend a lot of time explaining why they are so superior to everyone else they hate from within their restricted forum.

[DumbAss Tanker]

For the 10th anniversary, we could convert some Prius automobiles into rafts and load them up with DUmmies and send them floating toward Papa Castro.

We should take them out on a barge about ten miles for a 'head start' though...just to make sure none of them can swim back.

[dandi]

They don't have any problem at all with remembrances of the OKC bombing though, because it gives them an excuse to whoop and holler about so-called "Christian terrorists", even though Christianity had nothing to do with the motivations of Timothy McVeigh. Funny how "Christian terrorists" are supposed to be such a big problem, yet they have to trot out the same dusty and shopworn half-dozen names over and over when they give examples, and half of those are ambiguous at best when it comes to what religious/political beliefs inspired them.

Mustn't do anything to cast their "enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend" Muslims in a bad light, though. No-no-no. That just won't do. Even though there are so many willing to do violence in the name of The Religion Of Peace one can't keep up with them. Even though there are more Islamofascist attacks on a slow morning than there have been "Christian terrorist" attacks in the U.S. in thirty years.

OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts)      Mon Aug-29-11 08:52 AM
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19. Every time I hear the phrase
 "they hate us for our freedoms", I want to hurt someone.

Only a moron would believe Islamic extremists don't hate our freedom.

They hate our freedom of religion because all people should be subject to Islam and its laws, even at the point of a sword.
They hate our freedom to live a "decadent" lifestyle.
They hate the freedom of homosexuals here to follow their lifestyle relatively unfettered.
They hate our freedom of speech which allows us to burn a Koran or draw unflattering cartoons of Mohammed.
They hate our freedom of association that spreads a "bad influence" on the youth of the Muslim community.
They hate our freedom to support a free and secure Israel.

Queers, militant Feminism, abortion, drugs, Atheism, oppressive secular government, pretty much all the foundation blocks of modern Liberalism are death-penalty-worthy sacrilege in the eyes of radical Islam. DUmbasses are willing to give all that a handwave, yet shit their pants over an American high school not allowing the prom queen to wear a tuxedo to the dance. Two Jehovah's Witnesses ringing their doorbell on a Saturday afternoon, that's "terrorism" to a DUer.

Three thousand people dying in a a span of a few hours at the hands of Islamofascists? Why, that's not noteworthy. All that jingoism and patriotism and other -isms that go along with memorializing 9/11 are just distractions from more important business like legalizing pot or saving dung beetle habitats or thinking up some more really hateful lies about Sarah Palin's kids. Get your priorities straight, America!

[GOBUCKS]

I haven't heard any DUmbasses yet celebrating Mayor Bloomberg's decision to forbid any clergymen or prayers at the official commemoration ceremony.

I'd almost forgotten how much I detest New York City and its people.