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Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« on: August 21, 2011, 01:38:15 PM »
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Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
   
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/21/us-usa-obama-...

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Sunday he expects to be judged in the 2012 election over his governance of the American economy, which he said was still not growing fast enough.

"For me to argue, look, we've actually made the right decisions, things would have been much worse has we not made those decisions -- that's not that satisfying if you don't have a job right now," Obama told CBS in an interview taped last week and aired during his annual vacation in Martha's Vineyard, an island near Boston.

"I understand that and I expect to be judged a year from now on whether or not things have continued to get better," he said.

The unemployment rate has been stuck above 9 percent and growth was very weak in the first half of 2011, causing many Americans to question whether Obama's stimulus and bailout measures following the financial crisis worked.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1782941

Looks like his slogan for 2012 will be, Hey things could always be worse.

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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 01:43:50 PM »
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts)           Sun Aug-21-11 10:41 AM
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7. The stimulus and bailout measures did 'work' after a fashion, although
   
the stimulus package was too small by a magnitude of two to three times. However, the economy needs more stimulus from government spending right now, not less (in the form of budget cuts, entitlement reforms or austerity programs).

Should he fail to make the case for more government intervention via higher spending and pump priming, a harsh judgment awaits Obama, imho.

Things have not continued to get better.
Words fail me.
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 01:45:03 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on August 21, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
Words fail me.

Not me, I have been hearing that crap for months now from lefties, who say the stimulus was just too small.

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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 01:47:22 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on August 21, 2011, 01:45:03 PM
Not me, I have been hearing that crap for months now from lefties, who say the stimulus was just too small.



Well, I could understand it if we had a good reason.  An alien invasion, for example.
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 01:48:04 PM »
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economy needs more stimulus
= send me a government check
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 01:50:56 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on August 21, 2011, 01:47:22 PM
Well, I could understand it if we had a good reason.  An alien invasion, for example.

Just imagine if aliens blew up several corporate headquarters, we would add a whole bunch more people to the unemployment rolls and jobs would be created like crazy.

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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 02:30:31 PM »
Me and son are watching "Laugh In" on PBS...John Wayne just did a poem

The sky is blue
The grass is green
Get off your butt
Join the Marines

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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 02:50:30 PM »
If anyone is complaining about the size of Obie's package it should be Moochelle.  Next we'll hear he ain't got rhythm either. :popcorn:
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 04:42:41 PM »
I've lost track of how many times their utopian broken window fallacy dreams have been debunked, but, they still cling to that fantasy.  I'd hate to live that way, waiting for someone else to fix what ails me. 
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 04:49:46 PM »
Maybe this is why no one is going to primary Obama. There is no way to overcome the economy.
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 04:54:22 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on August 21, 2011, 04:49:46 PM
Maybe this is why no one is going to primary Obama. There is no way to overcome the economy.

Maybe the Obamessiah is going through a primary, and his opponent is the economy.

He'll lose.
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 05:19:15 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on August 21, 2011, 01:48:04 PM
= send me a government check

Exactly.
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 05:29:01 PM »
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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 07:45:05 PM »
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"For me to argue, look, we've actually made the right decisions, things would have been much worse has we not made those decisions..."

To make that argue would violate several logical fallicies.  There's no way to prove it would have been worse.  The only way to prove it would be to create an alternate universe, not do anything or, better yet, implement other decisions that were being suggested by conservatives, and then compare the results.  Since it can't be done, then to claim things would have been worse is just that; an empty claim.

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Re: Obama says will be judged in 2012 over economy
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 09:35:08 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on August 21, 2011, 01:45:03 PM
Not me, I have been hearing that crap for months now from lefties, who say the stimulus was just too small.



Yep, the bankers and the unions needed even more money to do nothing with.
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