Why is it that people always riot in the hood? (Nadin)

[cmypay]

Well, and on top of the lack of morals and self-respect, you have democrats who constantly tell them that they cannot do any better on their own without federal funding.  Democrats, the true racist bigots, like to keep their minorities in concentrated areas and tell them how inferior they are to, well, you know...  white people.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315078/Race-maps-America.html

Compare and contrast liberal vs more conservative cities.

I think the fact that the inner cities have building after building packed to the rafters contributes. You can't have people living right on top of each other and not have problems. How many of us have had a neighbor that constantly blasted their music or let their dogs/cats run loose and irritate everyone? I know I have. Now in the Section 8 housing complexes, it is all multiplied.

[Erasmus]

I think the fact that the inner cities have building after building packed to the rafters contributes. You can't have people living right on top of each other and not have problems. How many of us have had a neighbor that constantly blasted their music or let their dogs/cats run loose and irritate everyone? I know I have. Now in the Section 8 housing complexes, it is all multiplied.

Exactly.  Look at the maps and how dense and segregated NY city is.  But they aren't rioting because of loud stereos or dogs.  They're rioting because they're now to the point where their sense of entitlement without work is genetic.

[TVDOC]

Well, and on top of the lack of morals and self-respect, you have democrats who constantly tell them that they cannot do any better on their own without federal funding.  Democrats, the true racist bigots, like to keep their minorities in concentrated areas and tell them how inferior they are to, well, you know...  white people.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315078/Race-maps-America.html

Compare and contrast liberal vs more conservative cities.

To an extent........however, I'd argue that there really aren't any "conservative" urban areas due to the funding issues that you mentioned........however, the balkanization is primarily due to "white flight", which continues to this day.  

Both working and professional whites, Asians, and some of Spanish descent simply became weary of living behind barred windows/doors, watching their real estate values plummet, and attempting to educate their children in school systems that are dysfunctional due to the predominance of minority students that really are not interested in learning due to their "culture".

They empathetically arrived at an economic solution.......migrate to suburban areas where those less civilized cannot afford to live, build better school systems and a tax base to support it.......leave those unable to economically compete to wallow in their own creation.

I don't believe that "multiculturalism" is a good thing, therefore I see this as a natural sequence of events.  The phrase "adapt or die" used in conjunction with evolution of species is applicable to racial groups......."acculturate or be ostracised".

doc

[thundley4]

Maybe segragation is natural?

[Ballygrl]

rasputin1952  DU Moderator Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-09-11 09:33 PM
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19. Locking...
   
the consensus of the Moderators is that the Opening Post is construed to be insensitive in the way it is presented.

[Erasmus]

To an extent........however, I'd argue that there really aren't any "conservative" urban areas due to the funding issues that you mentioned........however, the balkanization is primarily due to "white flight", which continues to this day.  

I think it's the broader conservative climate, not that those parts of the cities are necessarily conservative.  Low taxes and low regulations create more jobs and opportunity.  Not to mention, we've welcomed quite a few companies who've relocated here because their states were run by raving liberal lunatics.  The effect of this, IMHO, is that minorities have more opportunity, and in fact, do better here, which is why you see slightly more dispersion on the maps.  In other words, a much larger percentage of minorities here can also participate in the "white flight".  But yes, the white flight is still happening because the inner city folks have too much time to breed and not enough time to teach their kids right from wrong, and as you say, property values fall, school quality suffers, etc.

Both working and professional whites, Asians, and some of Spanish descent simply became weary of living behind barred windows/doors, watching their real estate values plummet, and attempting to educate their children in school systems that are dysfunctional due to the predominance of minority students that really are not interested in learning due to their "culture".
They empathetically arrived at an economic solution.......migrate to suburban areas where those less civilized cannot afford to live, build better school systems and a tax base to support it.......leave those unable to economically compete to wallow in their own creation.
I don't believe that "multiculturalism" is a good thing, therefore I see this as a natural sequence of events.  The phrase "adapt or die" used in conjunction with evolution of species is applicable to racial groups......."acculturate or be ostracised".
doc

No doubt multiculturalism is a horrible disaster.  It's beyond a simple abysmal failure.  Even if economics and politics weren't in play, people self-segregate.  And why shouldn't they?  There's nothing wrong with people choosing where they want to live.

[Erasmus]

Maybe segragation is natural?

Absolutely.  Just go visit any high school campus around lunch time and see where the kids sit.

[TVDOC]

Maybe segregation is natural?

From personal experience I can agree........living in southern California awhile back (where whites are a minority), I found this true particularly with some ethnic groups such as Asians.  They seem more comfortable living in their own communities......even subdivided by country of origion.  In most cases there wasn't a language issue, simply a cultural one.  I certainly don't have a problem with it.

doc

[GOBUCKS]

To many, survival within the vicious democrat base of the hood depends on  savage, uncivilized, ignorant, and criminal behavior.
Failure to comply with that norm can be dangerous.

[Ballygrl]

This post is full of stupidity, where to start:

zappaman  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Tue Aug-09-11 09:27 PM
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13. "in the hood"?
   
what do you mean by that?
are saying "in the ghetto"? Because "hood" is slang for "ghetto".
leaving aside the racial implications, your long winded answer that essentially boils down to "they have no cars" is utterly ridiculous and way too simplistic.
there are many reasons riots start and end in cities.
to name a few:
poverty
discrimination
lousy schools
high unemployment
lack of housing
crap healthcare
overcrowding
weather
police brutality

the reason they don't usually spread to your nice little suburb is that, like an incendiary fire, a riot burns itself out(coupled with a law enforcement crackdown) and usually last a few days.
why get in a car and go to your country club when they can just torch something nearby?
why loot a store in Beverly Hills, when there is a Circuit City not to far down the street?

and man is a species that likes familiarity. so sticking close to home isn't shocking.

well, maybe it is to you. but as a student of history, I am not surprised.

I'm a honky, actually that's what the blacks in my neighborhood called people like me, I lived in a crime infested cess pool, enough was enough, so my Parents up and moved, so I'm more than qualified to answer your post.

poverty yeah? so what? we were poor, the whites in my neighborhood were poor, and we had hard working blacks and hispanics who were poor, we didn't resort to violence, but overwhelmingly the violence in our neighborhood were perpetrated by blacks, not white, not asians, not hispanics.

discrimination yeah? how long has that card been played now? how does the left explain successful blacks who've come here from africa? hispanics? asians? etc.

lousy schools it's not lousy schools, if anything, around here? money is taken from taxpayers in other counties and shoved into the "poor schools" but why are the schools lousy? it wouldn't have anything to do with Parents who don't give a crap?

high unemployment why is unemployment high? in the words of Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia

“Take those God-darn hoodies down, especially in the summer,” Mr. Nutter, the city’s third black mayor, said in an angry lecture aimed at black teens. “Pull your pants up and buy a belt ‘cause no one wants to see your underwear or the crack of your butt.”

“If you walk into somebody’s office with your hair uncombed and a pick in the back, and your shoes untied, and your pants half down, tattoos up and down your arms and on your neck, and you wonder why somebody won’t hire you? They don’t hire you ‘cause you look like you’re crazy,” the mayor said. “You have damaged your own race.”

lack of housing you have no idea how quite a few "poor people" cause destruction to homes they live in, I've seen it, and they don't care, they don't own it, why should they care?

crap healthcare and why is that? maybe because taxpayers have been driven out of those neighborhoods?

overcrowding there was overcrowding in the tenements in the 30's and 40's, you ever see the stuff going on then that's going on now?

weather

police brutality perceived brutality, chances are a kid has a better chance of being harmed in their own neighborhood by their own kind then they would ever get hurt by a cop, and until that fact is recognized it'll just be the same old same old.

[GCBill]

Why is it that people always riot in the hood?

1. Because it is hard to organize a motorcade when all the cars are on fire.
2. Because you can't shove a flat screen or new pair of trainers in the coin slot for the subway.
3. Because by the time you've walked that far, it's hard to throw a garbage can.

[BEG]

From personal experience I can agree........living in southern California awhile back (where whites are a minority), I found this true particularly with some ethnic groups such as Asians.  They seem more comfortable living in their own communities......even subdivided by country of origion.  In most cases there wasn't a language issue, simply a cultural one.  I certainly don't have a problem with it.

doc

This is most definitely true. My daughter went to a high school in CA that was overwhelmingly Asian (and was one of the top schools in the area). She didn't last a week. She came home crying everyday as they would not socialize with her and would only speak Korean around her. She transferred to another high school and she had friends the first day.

[Rugnuts]

Why is it that people always riot in the hood?

1. Because it is hard to organize a motorcade when all the cars are on fire.
2. Because you can't shove a flat screen or new pair of trainers in the coin slot for the subway.
3. Because by the time you've walked that far, it's hard to throw a garbage can.

ha-rumph, ha-rumph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY

[formerlurker]

nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) 

Why is it that people always riot in the hood?
   
It is actually not complex.

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It is also very complex as to how they evolve...

uh-huh.