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Offline CG6468

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Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« on: August 09, 2011, 02:41:25 PM »
About 2 weeks old, but it is already in force in South Dakota.

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Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack

Posted on July 31, 2011 at 1:07pm by Mike Opelka
   
Is the US government starting to implement the policies of the United Nation’s plan for global management of people and resources known as Agenda 21?  The latest efforts out of the Department of Transportation (DOT) seem to indicate this is happening. And they are starting by targeting America’s farming communities with costly and oppressive regulations.

In Late May, the DOT proposed a rule change for farm equipment, and if it this allowed to take effect, it will place significant regulatory pressure on small farms and family farms all across America – costing them thousands of dollars and possibly forcing many of them out of business. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), part of the Department of Transportation (DOT), wants new standards that would require all farmers and everyone on the farm to obtain a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) in order to operate any farming equipment. The agency is going to accomplish this by reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles (CMVs)

So a 13-year old running a tractor needs a CDL? What could he drive on the road?

Absolutely idiotic

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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 02:49:20 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on August 09, 2011, 02:41:25 PM
About 2 weeks old, but it is already in force in South Dakota.

So a 13-year old running a tractor needs a CDL? What could he drive on the road?

Absolutely idiotic

What's next? The president having to prove he has a birth certificate? Maybe show his school records?...OR GOD FORBID prove he's capable of running something successfully before he can run for president?

I was driving farm tractors and bulldozers for hire at age 10...my daddy would tell Obama and crowd where to get off....but since it's for "The Children" the liberals will all love it.

 


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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 02:51:27 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on August 09, 2011, 02:49:20 PM


One wonders what the hell the test will be. Ya can't drive the tractor 50 miles to the nearest test facility.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 04:20:52 PM »
I think mosr real farmers will just say, Bite ME!
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 06:19:52 PM »
I drove the tractor to pick tobacco on my grandparents farm when I was 9 years old. If this happened back when granddad was alive he would figure that his scatter gun granted his farm an exception.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 08:45:11 AM »
If true, it affects moving the equipment over the road, but not operation on a farm.  You do not need a CDL to operate anything unless you're on a public road.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 10:00:04 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 10, 2011, 08:45:11 AM
If true, it affects moving the equipment over the road, but not operation on a farm.  You do not need a CDL to operate anything unless you're on a public road.

Knowing the bunch that is running this country, I would say as it stands right now, you are right ... but I wouldn't put it passed them to use this to one day extend their controll past the boundary of the highway right of way.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 10:03:20 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 10, 2011, 08:45:11 AM
If true, it affects moving the equipment over the road, but not operation on a farm.  You do not need a CDL to operate anything unless you're on a public road.

It's ANY farm equipment, on the road or in the fields. It matters not what the laws say.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 10:38:35 AM »
Quote from: CG6468 on August 10, 2011, 10:03:20 AM
It's ANY farm equipment, on the road or in the fields. It matters not what the laws say.


http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/rulemakings/rule-programs/rule_making_details.aspx?ruleid=336

Well bullshit.  The public notice for comment is at the link, what it's talking about is just the issue of off-road farm equipment operating over the road to move between sites.  Stupid enough, yes, but not what you and and a thousand assorted bloggers are claiming on the internet, either.  The more responsible professional sites like farm coop associations generally have the story in a more accurate form.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 11:07:46 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 10, 2011, 10:38:35 AM

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/rulemakings/rule-programs/rule_making_details.aspx?ruleid=336

Well bullshit.  The public notice for comment is at the link, what it's talking about is just the issue of off-road farm equipment operating over the road to move between sites.  Stupid enough, yes, but not what you and and a thousand assorted bloggers are claiming on the internet, either.  The more responsible professional sites like farm coop associations generally have the story in a more accurate form.

My friend in SD says that it is required there for on and off the road. They live in a farming community.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 11:33:33 AM »
If it's in one State, it isn't the Federal government doing it, it's the State DOT. 

But, I have to say, I did find some stuff that State governments are doing that is pretty weird, for instance apparently there are people in Washington (State) who want to prohibit or place major restrictions on private individuals owning heavy equipment like backhoes, or tractors that are 'Too large!'
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 03:21:44 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on August 10, 2011, 11:33:33 AM
If it's in one State, it isn't the Federal government doing it, it's the State DOT. 

But, I have to say, I did find some stuff that State governments are doing that is pretty weird, for instance apparently there are people in Washington (State) who want to prohibit or place major restrictions on private individuals owning heavy equipment like backhoes, or tractors that are 'Too large!'

The farmers and ranchers around her are going to the capital (or is that Capitol?) with unknown others to stage a tractor drive-around the grounds to protest this. I doubt we'll see anything about it, though.
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 02:24:43 PM »
This PRE-dates the the above article I dunno...............

VERY short article.

I'm so confused......
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Re: Agenda 21 Update: Family Farms Are Under Attack
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 02:44:59 PM »
http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/05/31/2011-13035/regulatory-guidance-applicability-of-the-federal-motor-carrier-safety-regulations-to-operators-of#h-8

I beg people when they read this stuff to please go read the proposed regulations and/or legislation themselves before beckoning chicken little to start pacing with his umbrella.  

Small farms and farmers will still remain exempt from this under state law -- it is those farm owners who are renting out their land that they are targeting, along with other inconsistencies.

It is up to the governors of those major farm states to make some noise to the control that the feds want to strip away from them.   If this farm equipment is never leaving the state borders, and in fact to receive exemption doesn't venture further than 150 miles from their farms then I don't see how the feds think they can take this control and have it stand up to SCOTUS.   Baffling.
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