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Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« on: August 03, 2011, 09:10:43 PM »
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 01:45 PM
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Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
   
Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling

The big rap against homeschooled kids seems to be that they aren’t “socialized.” I asked a longtime member of a big-city school board about homeschooling, and he shook his head and rolled his eyes.

“Those kids are nothing but problems,” he said. “They’re not socialized. We had one boy who wanted to go out for football because that’s something you really can’t do at home, and when he got to the locker room, the other kids found out he didn’t even know how to snap a towel or give a wedgie. That’s the problem with homeschooling.”

Yes, why can’t homeschooled children act as if they’ve been raised by wolves like socialized children? What were their parents thinking?

I can always tell if children are being schooled at home. They call me “Mr. Mullen” instead of “dude,” or “yo,” or a couple of words that we can’t print. Homeschoolers are usually smarter and more talented than I am. Regularly schooled children may be smarter than I am, too, but since they are socialized to be uncomfortable speaking to anyone outside their age group, I will never know.


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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 01:49 PM
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2. Homeschooling allows complete idiots to indoctrinate their kids
   
Thus, making more complete idiots

No, I am 100% against homeschooling

Yeah, you heard that right

I do not think it should be allowed

Yeah the complete idiots should only be able to indoctrinate in the public schools.  :whatever:

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 01:52 PM
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5. Yes, but at least communities have a say how the kids are raised
   
Not so with homeschooling

Yeah the nerve of parents wanting to choose what their kids are taught. It's like they must believe in freedom or something.

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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 01:57 PM
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9. What happens when those communities decide they should teach creationism in science classes?
   
It's happening.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 01:58 PM
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10. Yes I know - and stupid shit like that happens in a Democracy
   
I would be all in favor of a Constitutional Amendment outlawing Creationism being taught in schools

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 03:50 PM
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24. Schools vary. There are some very good public schools.
   
I'm not big on Private schools, but they are better than homeschooling.

My problem is the hordes of fundies who have taken their kids out of the 'system' to brainwash them into little Duggards with all of their myths and BS. The system has its problems, but since there is no draft, it's the only thing left to align kids to common ideal.

We differ on a lot of things, but I think we agree on much too.

Cheers!

Why don't we just outlaw religion to make your dumb ass happy?  :whatever:

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45. But at least with Public Schools, the option for Not-Fundamentalist is (hopefully) presented

It's not home schooling that Taverner hates, it's that they might be taught something he doesn't agree with.

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Proles (126 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 03:39 PM
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20. I remain skeptical of home schooling.
   
It leaves too much room for religious indoctrination, and false teachings -- but I'm not completely against the concept in prinicple.

Yeah let them get their false teachings about things like global warming in public schools.

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nomb (353 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Aug-03-11 04:23 PM
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33. The problem with Home Schooling is often the lack of standards or quality teachers...
   
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 04:25 PM by nomb
My parents were bright but I'm not sure they were as qualified to teach me as the approximately 30 to 40 educators that brought me through the 12th grade.

And unlike in a home school, any bad teachers I may have had - would have only had a fractional impact.

When you consider that the DUmp has many teachers, I doubt quality of teachers is a big issue for libs.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 09:18:35 PM »
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Proles (126 posts) Wed Aug-03-11 03:39 PM
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20. I remain skeptical of home schooling.
   
It leaves too much room for religious indoctrination
Well, then you have to go after parochial schools, don't you?

I doubt many homeschoolers have a period every day for religion class.

And how about higher education? Notre Dame? I guess the drug-addled alcoholic DUmmy Taverner is better educated than
a Notre Dame graduate.

(I detect a faint whiff of mole scent on DUmmy Proles.)

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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 09:36:32 PM »
Waaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiit a minute...

I thought the DUmmies were all into getting as far away from "THE MAN" as possible. You know, the whole hippie commune thing where they all live happily ever after in their yurts and hobbit hovels, living off the land and hand crafting all their Earthly needs. Wasn't home schooling a big part of that? Not letting "THE MAN" poison their kid's minds?










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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 10:08:02 PM »
Yep. They tried it and failed. We perfected it.
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 10:23:38 PM »
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts)      Wed Aug-03-11 01:49 PM

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2. Homeschooling allows complete idiots to indoctrinate their kids
   
Thus, making more complete idiots

No, I am 100% against homeschooling

Yeah, you heard that right

I do not think it should be allowed

Wasn't the formerly little Ava homeschooled ? Why yes she was....

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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 10:44:15 PM »
Yeah, we got the socialization meme too. Jake had a conversation with a friend on an airplane when his soccer team was traveling to Holland & Germany. This is a paraphrase because unlike the DUmmies I don't know things word for word.

Friend: Do you like homeschooling?

Jake: Yeah, it's pretty cool!

Friend: How do you get any socialization?

Jake: We're socializing now aren't we?

We have a running joke in the homeschooling community that we don't homeschool, we car school. One of the big advantages is kids socialize with all ages. A 13 year old is just as comfortable conversing with another 13 year old, a 7 year old, or an adult. When they talk to adults they're actually respectful and will look you in the eye.

Here's a partial list of Jake's activities:

Destination Imagination with a homeschooling team. Went to world finals twice. Won first place one year, state finals two years.
Civil Air Patrol: Cadet Major, committee chair of Western Region council, organized summer camp for Oregon Cadets (they hadn't had one here for over a decade, I think), Oregon Cadet of the Year
Year round soccer, including playing one year on a Mexican team. He didn't speak a word of Spanish. Most of them didn't speak English. It was hysterical to see my lily white red headed boy with his Roberto Baggio hair with a bunch of Mexicans, some of whom I'm sure were gang members given their proclivity for 'do rags and the color blue. Played on the high school team, MVP
Homeschool Latin Club which had members from age 8 to adult
History Club, see above
Karate: Black Belt, taught a children's class
Cub Scouts (when he was old enough he joined CAP)
Monthly teen party held at one of the kids' houses
Community college math & science classes (I had no problem with the whole mold growing thing but drew the line at blowing shit up & I never made it past
first year algebra so when he wanted to learn calculus it was way over my head)

Homeschoolers tend to be overachievers because for the most part the love of learning hasn't been driven out of them. They also have more time because they don't spend an excess amount of time standing in line or raising their hands to go to the bathroom. Most tend to rush through their daily assignments so they can get to the fun stuff. However, I was one of those oddballs who did child-directed learning until high school when I insisted he study US History & Government. He was allowed to study a subject (chivalry, space, WWII, etc) until he exhausted it. He never exhausted the whole WWII thing.

I used to joke that we had to homeschool because he wouldn't have time for his activities if he went to public school.

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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 10:51:31 PM »
Wasn't the formerly little Ava homeschooled ? Why yes she was....
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 07:34:51 AM »
Hat's off to you, Cindie!   :cheersmate:

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Maat  (1000+ posts)      Wed Aug-03-11 03:06 PM
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16. Too bad!
 Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 03:09 PM by Maat
It is allowed, and I do it!

Luckily, TAVERNER doesn't get to decide how I raise my kid!

Oh, and everyone says that she is a kind, compassionate, independent-thinker.


 

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Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-03-11 03:52 PM
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25. ... Homeschooling removes the whole idea of shared resources and shared struggle ...

He's such a little Commie.


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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 07:39:23 AM »
Homeschooling removes the whole idea of turning your bright child into a mindless know-nothing drone.

I gave an assignment on the Constitution to Scoobie's daughter.  She had NO idea how a bill becomes law (she's going into 5th grade).  I was (and am) aghast.
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 08:31:12 AM »
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20. I remain skeptical of home schooling.
   
It leaves too much room for religious indoctrination

So tell us how you feel about Obama having attended madrassas.
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2011, 08:34:45 AM »
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...or a couple of words that we can’t print.

There are words that DU won't print?

Let me guess:

honor
honesty
values
morality
balanced budget
marriage
truth...

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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 08:35:09 AM »
Kids are in school for 7 hours/day X 180 days/year = 1260 hours/year.  There are 8760 hours in a year.

So you're saying the other 86 percent of the year, parents have NO input over the religious upbringing of their children?  That the 14 percent they spend in school is their only input?

Gawd, the stupid--it burns.
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 09:28:47 AM »
Look how great Taverner turned out, why don't people want to take his advice on this?

 :rofl:

His assumption that it is only Christian Fundamentalists who want to homeschool is totally baseless, as everyone here probably knows.  I would guess that people who are motivated by religion are more likely to find a parochial school that suits their doctrine than they are to homeschool, in the majority I think it's more a Libertarian kind of thought process that leads parents to homeschool.
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Re: Village Idiot: Home sweet homeschooling
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 09:37:31 AM »
The only that I know of home schooled Adult I met was a young man that came to work the 3rd shift clean up crew, damn hard work.

He was a social miss fit when he came, he worked with mostly non English speaking Asians and was terrified of them and the rest were bone ugly white miss fits.

He had his locker broken into and found someone has pissed in his work boots, every practical joke one can think of was pulled on him.

WHY. because he came from some Fundamental Church area way up in Maine and never fought back, just smiled even when given a wedgie or tipped upside down in a filthy barrel.  Never complained and it gave rise to his coworkers to see how far they could push him to get his dander up.  

He won, they lost, he came up to me one day before I started work and he went home to tell me good by, last day for him his full scholarship to some Computer school had finally arrived and he was going to Boston.

Home schooled out in the middle of some religious comunity in the back woods and he had a SAT off the scale.   He told me that most of the kids girls and boys from his comunity and home schooled went to college on scholarships, after graduation they moved back home to help their parents and comunity.

The kids in the next town going to dirt poor public schools move out and never come back.

Good man, any way you look at it.