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Offline thundley4

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It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« on: August 02, 2011, 08:17:40 PM »
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leftstreet   (1000+ posts)             Tue Aug-02-11 08:16 PM
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It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20, Workweek 4 days
   
(if that)

Healthcare should be free

Education, housing, food, communications should all be subsidized and easily accessible to the working classes

The US shouldn't have 700+ military ba$e$ around the world and billions of $$ in contracts to protect the profit seeking interests of the wealthy global capitalists. Wealthy pricks who do nothing but extract and extort profit from labor around the globe.

It's all bullshit.

But hey at least the Era of Compromise is over. We've got nothing left to give up!
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avaistheone1   (1000+ posts)         Tue Aug-02-11 08:18 PM
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1. That is what life is like in those socialist democracies the media wants us to be so afraid of.
   
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The ones that ration healthcare?

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bbinacan   (1000+ posts)           Tue Aug-02-11 08:21 PM
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3. For now
   
they're going bankrupt too.

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avaistheone1   (1000+ posts)         Tue Aug-02-11 08:51 PM
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29. Bullshit.
   
I smell freeper.

Freepers shine the light of truth.

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bbinacan   (1000+ posts)           Tue Aug-02-11 09:14 PM
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37. LOL
   
They aren't going bankrupt? I smell an ostrich with its head buried in the sand.

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39. Who are all going bankrupt?
   
Have you read the news lately?

Hard to believe but some of the DUmmies realize that socialism is failing Europe.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 08:23:21 PM »
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avaistheone1    (1000+ posts)         Tue Aug-02-11 08:18 PM
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1. That is what life is like in those socialist democracies the media wants us to be so afraid of.
I wonder if this could be the chinless Alabama butterball.


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They aren't going bankrupt? I smell an ostrich
 
According to nadin, that's the national bird of Austria.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 08:24:40 PM »
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avaistheone1   (1000+ posts)         Tue Aug-02-11 08:51 PM
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29. Bullshit.
  
I smell freeper.

Try not to put your nose next to poopers.
OK?
I smell a DUmmie, does that make you feel better?
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 09:05:59 PM »
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Aug-02-11 08:25 PM
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9. There's no reason why we can't get it down to a 15-20 hour work week once the parasites are gone.
   
My only point of contention with your post :)

There is probably some truth there, if we got rid of the DUmmies and didn't have to pay so much in taxes, we could work 20 hours a week and still take home about the same we do now.

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28. Retirement age should be 22, min wage should be $50/hr, and a workweek of 2 days
   
This thread needs more ponies with rainbows shooting out of their butts.

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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 09:15:34 PM »
This is bullshit.  Minimum wage should be $200/ hr, retirement age should be 28, maximum workweek should be 2 1/2 hrs, if that, and businesses should pay for the other 37 1/2 hrs anyway!

WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM LIVE ON A MEASLY $20/hr?  Have you tried to live on $20/hr!!!!!
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 09:27:06 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on August 02, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
This is bullshit.  Minimum wage should be $200/ hr, retirement age should be 28, maximum workweek should be 2 1/2 hrs, if that, and businesses should pay for the other 37 1/2 hrs anyway!

WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM LIVE ON A MEASLY $20/hr?  Have you tried to live on $20/hr!!!!!

You fracking nuckle dragking. Everyone should get $2000/hr!  28? You frakin kiden me? DUde no way it should be more than 18!! 
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 09:29:01 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on August 02, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
This is bullshit.  Minimum wage should be $200/ hr, retirement age should be 28, maximum workweek should be 2 1/2 hrs, if that, and businesses should pay for the other 37 1/2 hrs anyway!

WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM LIVE ON A MEASLY $20/hr?  Have you tried to live on $20/hr!!!!!

Yep.  About twenty years ago.  It sucked then too.   :cheersmate:
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 10:04:43 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on August 02, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
This is bullshit.  Minimum wage should be $200/ hr, retirement age should be 28, maximum workweek should be 2 1/2 hrs, if that, and businesses should pay for the other 37 1/2 hrs anyway!

WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM LIVE ON A MEASLY $20/hr?  Have you tried to live on $20/hr!!!!!

Retirement age of 28?  Sweet.  Just need to put in two more weeks and I am DONE!
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 10:24:04 PM »
Wow, that thread is a hot mess.  Of course, the part about Europe being bankrupt was deleted.  We can't be having the truth, ya know. 
But, I say BULLSHIT.  I should look like Eva Longoria, and Matthew McConaughey should serve me breakfast in bed.
See why you got the unicorn comments, ya DUmmies? 
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 10:32:21 PM »
That's why they're having problems in Europe, the entitlement mentality. BTW who the heck is going to pay for someone's early retirement? I remember years ago when I was working in the medical field, there was a guy a couple years younger than me, he wanted to retire at 40, he said he'll work 2 full time jobs to make that happen and he did, but we're not paying for him, he sacrificed a lot. 
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 06:11:25 AM »
Went over to read the thread and could feel brain cells being sucked away so stopped.
A few try to point out the foolishness of it all and are greeted with the normal DUmmy responses of idiocy like "yes it would work" or such.
Not one person ever tries to explain how and why just asserts that it is perfect.

DUmbass brilliance at its best here...

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kelly1mm (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-02-11 08:41 PM
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25. One question. For those jobs that do not generate $20 per hr of revenue,
   should those jobs be eliminated? Due to the nature of my business, I can track the direct revenue generated by my two part time employees. For one, it was $17.88 p/h from Jan 1 to June 30 2011. The other was $18.01 p/h for the same period. Each is paid by me $13.00 p/h (actual total payroll costs is $14.39 p/h with employer taxes included). Should I get rid of them?

Fair question.

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w4rma  (1000+ posts)          Wed Aug-03-11 02:37 AM
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84. If the vast majority was making more then there would be more clients willing to pay more. (nt)

FREEEEEEEEE money is the answer.

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Capitalocracy  (1000+ posts)          Wed Aug-03-11 03:43 AM
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88. There would be an adjustment in the economy
   You would have to raise your prices, but there would be more money in the hands of consumers to pay.

Some business models might break, but for the most part, what works now will continue to do so, just the numbers will change. Only businesses that were completely unsustainable to begin with would no longer function.

In other words nothing would change in practical reality but this person still thinks it is perfect.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 06:19:28 AM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on August 02, 2011, 10:04:43 PM
Retirement age of 28?  Sweet.  Just need to put in two more weeks and I am DONE!

Dang!! Why am I still working??? oh yeah, reality just hit me....... ::)
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 06:29:18 AM »
I love how they scream about jobs and in the same breath say that we should shut down all the military bases. Do any of these morans know how just shutting down one base here in Hampton Roads would screw the economy in the area?
We are watching it happen right now. :mental:
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 06:42:00 AM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on August 02, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
This is bullshit.  Minimum wage should be $200/ hr, retirement age should be 28, maximum workweek should be 2 1/2 hrs, if that, and businesses should pay for the other 37 1/2 hrs anyway!

WHY DO YOU HATE POOR PEOPLE SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM LIVE ON A MEASLY $20/hr?  Have you tried to live on $20/hr!!!!!
Retirement? Meh. You should retire the moment you're born and get a shiny new trillion dollar coin every ten minutes until you die at the ripe old age of 14.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 07:41:43 AM »
An example of their "just do it" approach that Carl mentioned:

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wundermaus (1000+ posts)      Wed Aug-03-11 01:45 AM
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81. With retirement at 55, min wage at $20/hr, free medical, and a 4 day work week...
 There would be full employment and even the poorest among us could enjoy a decent life.
That's utopian and ridiculous.
Not at all, it's the American Dream.
Time to wake up and make it happen.  

And they're demanding 8 weeks of paid vacation.  Why are they so allergic to work?  I love to work. 
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2011, 08:03:27 AM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on August 03, 2011, 06:29:18 AM
I love how they scream about jobs and in the same breath say that we should shut down all the military bases. Do any of these morans know how just shutting down one base here in Hampton Roads would screw the economy in the area?
We are watching it happen right now. :mental:

During Desert Shield/ Storm, most of the ships & squadrons left Norfolk & Va Beach. The merchants did nothing but cry because there was little money being spent in the area. Several businesses DID go under.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2011, 08:07:42 AM »
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Capitalocracy  (1000+ posts)          Wed Aug-03-11 03:43 AM
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88. There would be an adjustment in the economy
   You would have to raise your prices, but there would be more money in the hands of consumers to pay.

Yeah, like $8 gallons of milk, $15 bags of cheetos, $20 boxes of nilla wafers....etc....

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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2011, 08:27:36 AM »
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wundermaus (1000+ posts)      Wed Aug-03-11 01:45 AM
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81. With retirement at 55, min wage at $20/hr, free medical, and a 4 day work week...
 There would be full employment and even the poorest among us could enjoy a decent life.
That's utopian and ridiculous.
Not at all, it's the American Dream.
Time to wake up and make it happen.

So stop waiting for us evil types to give it to you and make it happen on your own.

The beautiful thing about a free market is that it is FREE. If you want to pay your hired help $20/hour and work them only 20 hours a week while giving them free healthcare there is no one stop you except you.

Then your happy workers will produce more goods and services at higher quality that will attract a greater market share that squeezes the competition.

Right?
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2011, 09:03:15 AM »
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Capitalocracy  (1000+ posts)          Wed Aug-03-11 03:43 AM
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88. There would be an adjustment in the economy
   You would have to raise your prices, but there would be more money in the hands of consumers to pay.

   :lol:

A concept generally known as "Inflation" and thought by most to be a "Bad thing."  When the minimum wage triples, so will the price of all the staples the wage-earner has to buy with those wages.  Duh.
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Re: It's all BULLSHIT. Retirement should be 55, Min Wage should be $20,
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2011, 11:49:08 AM »
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Capitalocracy  (1000+ posts)          Wed Aug-03-11 03:43 AM
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88. There would be an adjustment in the economy
   You would have to raise your prices, but there would be more money in the hands of consumers to pay.

One of your fellow DUmmies was just complaining about the high price of 'Nilla Wafers.  That $4.08 box of wafers would seem cheap if your plan was implemented.
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